Speaking in tongues

You left out the part where he says to be zealous for the edification of the church and says for the one who speaks in tongues to pray that he may interpret. Then he makes another argument about prayer. If he prays in tongues, he is edified, but the other is not. He will pray in tongues. He will pray in the understanding. But if you pray in the church you do not edifiy others. Paul spoke in tongues more than them all, but if he were in the church, he would rather speak five words with the understanding than 10,000 words in an unknown tongue. He requires later in the chapter that when they come together 'let all things be done unto edifying.' Paul is not opposed to praying in tongues. He is saying that in the church, all things must be done unto edifying. After saying this, he gives instructions that require tongues to be interpreted, some guidelines for prophets that also require a speaking prophet to hold his peace if another sitting by receives a revelation for ye may all prophesy one by one.

Paul is not opposed to speaking in tongues. He says 'forbid not to speak in tongues.' Speaking in tongues does not edify others without interpretation. In the church, all things are to be done unto edifying. Therefore, if one is speaking in tongues and there be no interpreter, he is to keep silent in the church and to speak to himself and to God.

I definitely meant both. My spelling is atrocious if I'm on my phone. The keys are too small for my fat thumb. But I have seen that 'brining' line so many times, I suspect you may be cutting and pasting some old thing you wrote a long time ago that has been debunked numerous times by posters here.

You left out the part where he says to be zealous for the edification of the church and says for the one who speaks in tongues to pray that he may interpret. Then he makes another argument about prayer. If he prays in tongues, he is edified, but the other is not. He will pray in tongues. He will pray in the understanding. But if you pray in the church you do not edifiy others. Paul spoke in tongues more than them all, but if he were in the church, he would rather speak five words with the understanding than 10,000 words in an unknown tongue. He requires later in the chapter that when they come together 'let all things be done unto edifying.' Paul is not opposed to praying in tongues. He is saying that in the church, all things must be done unto edifying. After saying this, he gives instructions that require tongues to be interpreted, some guidelines for prophets that also require a speaking prophet to hold his peace if another sitting by receives a revelation for ye may all prophesy one by one.

Paul is not opposed to speaking in tongues. He says 'forbid not to speak in tongues.' Speaking in tongues does not edify others without interpretation. In the church, all things are to be done unto edifying. Therefore, if one is speaking in tongues and there be no interpreter, he is to keep silent in the church and to speak to himself and to God.

Hebrews 10:24-25 King James Version (KJV)
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.. People have different interpretations of scriptures, it is good to come together even for this purpose. Not all churches just preach, there are

Praying in the spirit is when your prayer is under the anointing of the holy spirit but I do not believe someone can pray in tongue and not understand what he/She is saying, that would be total confusion. One can pray in the spirit with known tongue, just that your prayer is under the leading of the Holy spirit

Complete rubbish

what is praying in the Spirit?

Every born again believer is filled with the Holy Spirit the instant he is saved.

Not according to scripture.

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude 1:

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude 1:

I was saved in July 1962. Was Baptized in the Holy Spirit the moment I was saved. The Holy Spirit has been present with me every moment sense that day.
I have never spoken in tongues. Have never had a desire to. Have never needed to. Have never seen the purpose.
I have never missed any blessing.

"Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Acts 19:2-6

When some one states that I am not filled with the Holy Spirit because I do not speak in tongues, that person is a liar.
Every born again believer is filled with the Holy Spirit the instant he is saved.

I do not believe people should assemble so that a self appointed preacher/evangelist can pass down to them their version of understanding. They are not 1st hand witnesses to the gospel and this brings me to my next point which i was trying to avoid because you'll still find it extreme.

Q1. Why must a prophet die in 'Jerusalem' (Luke 13:33)? Why must a prophet die at all?
Q2. Why was it a must for Jesus to go first before the spirit would come (John 16:7)?

The things you have said above are true but only true for the apostles and the 1st century church whose mandate was to spread the gospel to all nations which they did successfully.

My point is, the words of Jesus are spirit:

John 6:62 Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before? 63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.64 However, there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray Him.)

And the only way the spirit is transferred from the speaker to the hearer is when the speaker dies (release His spirit/give up His ghost) having delivered the words to the hearer, the spirit then lives on through the spoken words which are now with the hearer who believed. This is what is called baptism and for that reason, a messenger/prophet must die in Jerusalem (Jerusalem simply means believers).

Jesus said He had so much to tell them (Disciples) but they could not bear at that moment so the spirit of truth would guide them to understand God's word (gospel) so that they could in the same manner deliver it to the church by also dying for the gospel.
This is something they (Apostles) knew very well and so many times Paul confirmed that he is being offered as a drink sacrifice for the sake of the gospel. Peter also said the same thing- so they knew very well they had to die for the gospel to be effective.

The reason Paul says:

2 Cor 4:
10We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.

13 It is written: “I believed; therefore I have spoken.” b Since we have that same spirit of c faith, we also believe and therefore speak, 14because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you to himself. 15All this is for your benefit, so that the grace that is reaching more and more people may cause thanksgiving to overflow to the glory of God.

This is what Jesus told some of His disciples:

Mark 10:37 They answered, “Grant that one of us may sit at Your right hand and the other at Your left in Your glory.” 38“You do not know what you are asking,”Jesus replied. “Can you drink the cup I will drink, or be baptized with the baptism I will undergo?” 39“We can,” the brothers answered. “You will drink the cup that I drink,” Jesus said, “and you will be baptized with the baptism that I undergo

Luke 12:50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished!

So, the people appointed to spread the gospel were to die for the gospel to be effective, how then can a preacher in the 21st century purport to preach the gospel if they can not die for it? The spirit of Christ is already here with us and the words of Christ with us (this was not the case in the 1st century), so we only need to read the bible and believe the words of Christ. The church today was supposed to guide people to the scriptures and not to purport to give meaning to give meaning to the scriptures.

I assume by your post that you "speak in tongues".
Since I do not, does that make me less holy than you? Not as close to God? Less of a Christian?
Since I pray in English, not "tongues", does that make my prayers less than yours?

Love is the greatest virtue that Paul wanted them to have. Chapter 13 is about love and chapter 14 starts the whole argument about tongues on the basis of love. Love is always about others and never self, so the idea of self edification in Corinth was what was wrong with them that Paul wrote to correct.
How then do you pick a wrong and apply it to yourself in the name of self edification?

It was already said the gifts were for the common good and never self good. So the whole argument about tongues is that it should be understandable, either by interpretation or speaking intelligible words straight away- both are not happening today so we can dismiss current phenomenon as fake but there are other many many reasons to do so.

The part where he says to be zealous for the edification of the church and says for the one who speaks in tongues to pray that he may interpret ?

You said something was left out. I would ask Left out what..?. That he might interpret what the other fellow is saying as in having a conversation called the gospel of our faith, from a faith that comes from hearing God to the faith that works in the person to both will and do His good pleasure .Having that as a imputed righteousness. I would think the righteousness of Christ?

He already know what he is saying as prophecy the unseen gift that mutually works in two . The hearer of prophecy and the speaker who prophesies, comforted together as a work of the Holy Spirit.

Note... Paul in...…... bold black .The one Paul is bringing the gospel to .........bold purple

Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.1 Corinthians14 :11

When God not seen speaks words he speaks words of understanding with meanings assigned to them..... not subject to change.

He is our faithful Creator. Otherwise when by faith as a work he declared "let the be light" and there was no understanding between what he had faith in and what did appear, darkness came.

God saw the light and gave it his seal of approval calling it good, each day it is good . Only God not seen is good.

In KJV English we seethe same thing. The. Verse does not say they will speak with new hearts.

The heart of flesh passage is true, too. But this passage mentions new tongues in the context of laying hands on the sick and they shall recover and other supernatural acts. A few weeks later at Pentecost there was speaking in tongues. Paul includes healing, tongues miracles wtc.

It see.s you are grasping at straws to make the cgurch less miraculous.