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A lot of people here... (mostly the ones that shouts the largest) posts quote after quote about how bad it is to be Gay.
But know that a lot of christians are not like them. In Sweden, where I live, only the most extreme fundamental christians are against homosexuality. And I mean, you can even find Catholics that finds it OK:
But know that a lot of christians are not like them. In Sweden, where I live, only the most extreme fundamental christians are against homosexuality. And I mean, you can even find Catholics that finds it OK:
Wasn't going to post. But I'm tired of seeing so many people who have never experienced any same-sex attraction do all the talking about a subject they will never understand fully.
I walked away from God for close to 7 years and just got my wake-up call January 31st of this year. I was a regular attender of church, grew up as a kid in sunday school, went to youth group, said all the "correct" things in conversation with believers....etc. When I was young i knew I felt different about boys my age. When a teenager - it got more intense. As a young adult I was in pure hell. I flip-flopped for years on the subject, but when I was 24, I was told that I was gay and that I would find a church that would accept me for "who i really am". And I believed that. What they didn't tell me is how much it would cost me.
I went relationship to relationship...guy after guy. I was transformed into something I never thought I would be. I hated Christians. I hated God. I hated myself and life. I wanted to die. I wanted to destroy everything in existence..just for silence in my spirit.
There were nights when I would lie awake in my bed and literally wonder, "what if God is right about this?", "what if what the Bible says is really true?". I had spent so many years trying to convince myself that I was ok. I wanted more than anything to believe that I could be with a guy and still have some spiritual life. So I sought out new age material. I sought out dark practices. I sought stones and candles and incantations and incense. All things that I thought would give me a sense of purpose and power in my life. IT DID NOT.
It took a shock to open my eyes. I found out Jan 29th or so that Ray Boltz, a prominent Christian music singer had come out and is now singing about his struggles to be accepted as a gay man. He left his wife, hooked up with some guy, and proclaims himself "just fine".
In that moment I was crushed. I had looked up to this guy as a teenager and youth. His music had helped me through some of the darkest nights of my life. I knew I had lost a hero. I KNEW!. Something in me woke up. It was as if God took a spatula and flipped my brain over. All of a sudden I was brought into His light. I was exposed for who i had become. I was naked before Him...nothing hidden. I knew my sin. It had found me out.
I repented.
I don't care what anyone says. God's Word is clear.I knew that without ever touching a Bible. Those who deny this fact are believing a LIE. Those who teach/preach that "gay is ok" are liars and the truth is not in them, and will be held accountable on the day of judgment for leading millions away from the ONLY source that could have brought them life. There are no exceptions to the rule regardless of what any wise person thinks.
My repentance by NO MEANS "cured" me. I may feel these feelings for a very long time...perhaps even the rest of my life. I don't make all the correct decisions and it hasn't all gone away forever from my life like some David Copperfield trick. Any Christian guy can attest to the fact that seeing someone attractive can produce a struggle within. I also know it took upwards of 30 years to get me where I am, and it will certainly take some time to get me where HE wants me. It is a process. But I have faith that it is possible, even when I don't "feel" the end in sight.
To understand that God's grace can get underneath even this depth of perversion and darkness....that to me is the MOST amazing thing in the entirety of creation. He can reach beyond the depths of our understanding and EVEN forgive down there. I rejoice that my name is written in the Lambs book. I rejoice that "such we're some of you". I REJOICE that HIS divine power has given me everything I need for life, and godliness. I rejoice that Jesus Christ is ALIVE in me. Finally, even thought I struggle still, Romans 8:1 is an absolute in my life, and I know beyond a shadow of doubt that my sins have been removed from me as far as the east is from the west.
Take all your theological debates, all the wisdom in the world and throw it away as far as I'm concerned. God, speaking through His Word, His Spirit and His Church have let me know I'm on the right track. Just stop trying to prove the world is flat, when clearly...it's a hyper-cube.
I walked away from God for close to 7 years and just got my wake-up call January 31st of this year. I was a regular attender of church, grew up as a kid in sunday school, went to youth group, said all the "correct" things in conversation with believers....etc. When I was young i knew I felt different about boys my age. When a teenager - it got more intense. As a young adult I was in pure hell. I flip-flopped for years on the subject, but when I was 24, I was told that I was gay and that I would find a church that would accept me for "who i really am". And I believed that. What they didn't tell me is how much it would cost me.
I went relationship to relationship...guy after guy. I was transformed into something I never thought I would be. I hated Christians. I hated God. I hated myself and life. I wanted to die. I wanted to destroy everything in existence..just for silence in my spirit.
There were nights when I would lie awake in my bed and literally wonder, "what if God is right about this?", "what if what the Bible says is really true?". I had spent so many years trying to convince myself that I was ok. I wanted more than anything to believe that I could be with a guy and still have some spiritual life. So I sought out new age material. I sought out dark practices. I sought stones and candles and incantations and incense. All things that I thought would give me a sense of purpose and power in my life. IT DID NOT.
It took a shock to open my eyes. I found out Jan 29th or so that Ray Boltz, a prominent Christian music singer had come out and is now singing about his struggles to be accepted as a gay man. He left his wife, hooked up with some guy, and proclaims himself "just fine".
In that moment I was crushed. I had looked up to this guy as a teenager and youth. His music had helped me through some of the darkest nights of my life. I knew I had lost a hero. I KNEW!. Something in me woke up. It was as if God took a spatula and flipped my brain over. All of a sudden I was brought into His light. I was exposed for who i had become. I was naked before Him...nothing hidden. I knew my sin. It had found me out.
I repented.
I don't care what anyone says. God's Word is clear.I knew that without ever touching a Bible. Those who deny this fact are believing a LIE. Those who teach/preach that "gay is ok" are liars and the truth is not in them, and will be held accountable on the day of judgment for leading millions away from the ONLY source that could have brought them life. There are no exceptions to the rule regardless of what any wise person thinks.
My repentance by NO MEANS "cured" me. I may feel these feelings for a very long time...perhaps even the rest of my life. I don't make all the correct decisions and it hasn't all gone away forever from my life like some David Copperfield trick. Any Christian guy can attest to the fact that seeing someone attractive can produce a struggle within. I also know it took upwards of 30 years to get me where I am, and it will certainly take some time to get me where HE wants me. It is a process. But I have faith that it is possible, even when I don't "feel" the end in sight.
To understand that God's grace can get underneath even this depth of perversion and darkness....that to me is the MOST amazing thing in the entirety of creation. He can reach beyond the depths of our understanding and EVEN forgive down there. I rejoice that my name is written in the Lambs book. I rejoice that "such we're some of you". I REJOICE that HIS divine power has given me everything I need for life, and godliness. I rejoice that Jesus Christ is ALIVE in me. Finally, even thought I struggle still, Romans 8:1 is an absolute in my life, and I know beyond a shadow of doubt that my sins have been removed from me as far as the east is from the west.
Take all your theological debates, all the wisdom in the world and throw it away as far as I'm concerned. God, speaking through His Word, His Spirit and His Church have let me know I'm on the right track. Just stop trying to prove the world is flat, when clearly...it's a hyper-cube.
Thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry that you had to go through that much trouble to reach your insight.
I am glad that you have found your way. And since the world is a hyper-cube there is a path for each and us all. Ray Boltz has his path to follow and you have your path to follow. I am sure that Jesus loves the both of you just as much (as long as not one of you is a serial killer or something).
Love
/Anna
Take all your theological debates, all the wisdom in the world and throw it away as far as I'm concerned. God, speaking through His Word, His Spirit and His Church have let me know I'm on the right track. Just stop trying to prove the world is flat, when clearly...it's a hyper-cube.
Love
/Anna
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What you really need is a TRUE ENCOUNTER with God's spirit. With all your reading and studying, you've gained no Spiritual wisdom! If your trying to achieve real knowledge, based on your own terms that you've only aquired in your short 15 years on this earth, you would be wise to seek council from an elder person who is in GOOD contact with God.
In other words, i've seen many of your comments posted in various forums that you probably should just read, and never think to comment about. Your wisest words sound foolish at times. No doubt because your still a child.
When older/wiser people speak, learn to listen. There you will gain wisdom of the word. If you don't understand, seek council from one who could give it to you.
The world has nothing to offer you in the areas where our spiritual walk with Christ is concerned.
It's one or the other. You cannot serve God, and Serve the devil.
If you don't take some things in the Word literally, then don't take ANY of it at all.
How silly do you sound?
I pray God will make himself very real to you, real soon.
Love Kiddo.
In other words, i've seen many of your comments posted in various forums that you probably should just read, and never think to comment about. Your wisest words sound foolish at times. No doubt because your still a child.
When older/wiser people speak, learn to listen. There you will gain wisdom of the word. If you don't understand, seek council from one who could give it to you.
The world has nothing to offer you in the areas where our spiritual walk with Christ is concerned.
It's one or the other. You cannot serve God, and Serve the devil.
If you don't take some things in the Word literally, then don't take ANY of it at all.
How silly do you sound?
I pray God will make himself very real to you, real soon.
Love Kiddo.
Oh but I have had that! Believe me!
You know that there are many views on Christianity and not just "your view" (whatever it is).
I talk with my priest every week. And it is true. She is must more educated than myself (of curse).
Well... since I think that you should allow to express your view on things even if others does not share it I will disregard from this comment.
Are you trying to discipline me?
I do listen and read. But I have to be allowed to challenge things that I myself do believe is wrong. There is a Swedish saying that is: you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
So you "old people" may just be stuck in your own ways.
I do... very often. But as I said earlier... there is not one view on Christianity.
Oh... but I do not serve the Devil. Jesus is the shining star in the middle of my life. But when I feel his light I also know that he is a God of love that does not condemn people for their sexuality, gender or race. And you know what... there are a lot of us that believes this.
Of course you do not have to follow all of it. God has given me a brain so I use it to think about and question things. To accept everything blindly is scary as well as it is easy.
Thank you... I love it when I feel his presence.
And love to you
You know that there are many views on Christianity and not just "your view" (whatever it is).
I talk with my priest every week. And it is true. She is must more educated than myself (of curse).
Well... since I think that you should allow to express your view on things even if others does not share it I will disregard from this comment.
Are you trying to discipline me?
I do listen and read. But I have to be allowed to challenge things that I myself do believe is wrong. There is a Swedish saying that is: you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
So you "old people" may just be stuck in your own ways.
I do... very often. But as I said earlier... there is not one view on Christianity.
Oh... but I do not serve the Devil. Jesus is the shining star in the middle of my life. But when I feel his light I also know that he is a God of love that does not condemn people for their sexuality, gender or race. And you know what... there are a lot of us that believes this.
Of course you do not have to follow all of it. God has given me a brain so I use it to think about and question things. To accept everything blindly is scary as well as it is easy.
Thank you... I love it when I feel his presence.
And love to you
M
Ok, for me, I believe what the Bible says in 1st Corinthians, I watched Oprah's interview with Joel Osteen and he was saying how he believes what the Bible says about homosexuality, however, he wouldnt stop gay people from attending his church.
I know that not everyone is going to agree with me. But, I don't believe that all 'good' things are from God! Satan is forever trying to make us get away from God and may even try to sound like God. Whether it's money, fame, and I even think being gay. Satan will strike you at your weakest point, he knows what it takes to make us sin and lose our focus from God, even convincing someone that they were 'born' gay. My interpretation of the Bible is that homosexuality is a sin, that's it, it's not ambiguous, the Bible clearly states what happens to homosexuals, they will not see the Kingdom of God.
I know that not everyone is going to agree with me. But, I don't believe that all 'good' things are from God! Satan is forever trying to make us get away from God and may even try to sound like God. Whether it's money, fame, and I even think being gay. Satan will strike you at your weakest point, he knows what it takes to make us sin and lose our focus from God, even convincing someone that they were 'born' gay. My interpretation of the Bible is that homosexuality is a sin, that's it, it's not ambiguous, the Bible clearly states what happens to homosexuals, they will not see the Kingdom of God.