Pre Trib or Post trib rapture?

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Amen Brother. Some are left behind and are believers and they dont lose their salvation by being left behind, unless they take the Mark of the Beast.
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Story of the 10 virgins I believe takes place inside the Tribulation. The five foolish virgins went to see what the antichrist had to offer IMO.
 
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Story of the 10 virgins I believe takes place inside the Tribulation. The five foolish virgins went to see what the antichrist had to offer IMO.


Jesus didn't pick us up in September 2025. When do you expect Jesus to collect us now? The great tribulation is fast approaching. You guys don't have much time left.


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Let me go deeper: I think the Lord is going to fool a lot of people!

On the weekend the Lord was crucified there was a resurrection but no rapture of the living.

Paul speaks of the living:

Hebrews 9:28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Jesus also recorded in Luke 17

26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

IMO These verses are speaking of the living before the tribulation and why I'm a firm pre-tribulation believer.

So, those taken pre-trib will only be the living and not the dead in Christ.

IMO Paul is speaking of another coming at 1 Thess 4 called the Day of the Lord which includes living and the dead in Christ inside the Tribulation

15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

And this takes place in the final reaping of the earth:

14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man[b] with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
 
Rev 14:14 Reaping takes place at last moment of the 7th or Last Trumpet Judgment of the Tribulation.
Then begins the terrible bowl or vial judgements

Rev.14:19 The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath
 
Jesus didn't pick us up in September 2025. When do you expect Jesus to collect us now? The great tribulation is fast approaching. You guys don't have much time left.

Feast of Trumpets was surely a dead end charm. in 2025

Could be 2026, could be a few more years IMO.

I base this on 2000 years from when Jesus was crucified.

The calendar we use today is based on his birth which should have been based from Passover weekend of the crucification.
 
That bride is worthy.
Not all the church is the bride.
Some are left behind and are believers and they dont lose their salvation by being left behind, unless they take the Mark of the Beast.
Incorrect x 2; respectfully Disagree X 2, Because Of God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided:

Prophecy ( Earthly ):

1) The 'bride', Israel has to "make herself ready" (Rev_19:7-8 AV) in The Great Tribulation:


No, and:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Mystery ( Heavenly! ):

2) All of The Body Of Christ ( the "One New man" [ Not transgender! ] Eph_2:15 AV),
Must Be "Caught Up" In God's Great GRACE Departure! {aka rapture} In Order For
"Every man" To Be Judged At The Judgment Seat Of Christ ( 1Co_3:8-15 AV) ,
In Heaven!

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

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Some are left behind and are believers and they dont lose their salvation by being left behind, unless they take the Mark of the Beast....?

Incorrect x 2; respectfully Disagree X 2, Because Of God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided:

Prophecy ( Earthly ):

1) The 'bride', Israel has to "make herself ready" (Rev_19:7-8 AV) in The Great Tribulation:


No, and:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Mystery ( Heavenly! ):

2) All of The Body Of Christ ( the "One New man" [ Not transgender! ] Eph_2:15 AV),
Must Be "Caught Up" In God's Great GRACE Departure! {aka rapture} In Order For
"Every man" To Be Judged At The Judgment Seat Of Christ ( 1Co_3:8-15 AV) ,
In Heaven!

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

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Right. But if those who were left behind did not make themselves ready, then they were left behind for the chance to make themselves ready.

What is making ourselves ready?

It's cultivating our relationship with Him in Spirit and in Truth. We do that by being in His presence and spending time with Him. Like, all day for instance. The Lord told me that He wants His people to spend enough time with Him that we learn to hear His still small voice, and when you hear it, obey immediately.

The rest of your post I'm going to chew on that some more before commenting on it.

Amen Brother!
 
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When you see that Jesus hasn't picked us up and the antichrist is here, stick closely to God and don't panic. He will get you through to the end without falling away.


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The scriptures tell me I will never see the Tribulation.

I have studied time from creation for about 4 decades but I cant call last few years


God let people believe whatever they want before, even when they misunderstood Him for the longest time.

What counts is how you recover from your misunderstanding and get on God's program as soon as you realize it.

You'll remember all my posts to you when the antichrist arrives. The main thing is to not panic and stick close to Jesus.


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God let people believe whatever they want before, even when they misunderstood Him for the longest time.

What counts is how you recover from your misunderstanding and get on God's program as soon as you realize it.

You'll remember all my posts to you when the antichrist arrives. The main thing is to not panic and stick close to Jesus.

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I would really like to put you on ignore but you wont let me in your profile-lol
 
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WHY AMERICA IS NOT IN BIBLE PROPHECY

Can only be one reason and that is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the living

America has the largest ratio of Christians in the world on a nation status.

Not even a hint of war, sickness, climate disasters before the Tribulation to the magnitude needed to change the population numbers.

Comfort yourself with this knowledge!
 
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WHY AMERICA IS NOT IN BIBLE PROPHECY

Can only be one reason and that is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the living

America has the largest ratio of Christians in the world on a nation status.

Not even a hint of war, sickness, climate disasters before the Tribulation to the magnitude needed to change the population numbers.

Comfort yourself with this knowledge!

But in Matthew 24 it gives the signs, wars and rumor's of wars, increase in earthquakes, nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

So look around you, this is no longer prophecy, this is current events! So the pre trib rapture literally could happen any day. The big question before us is, are we ready. I mean, really ready. Are you ready to stand before Jesus today?

I thought about that. Am I really rapture ready? Then I prayed about it and asked Lord am I really ready? His reply made me uneasy. He said the people who will be raptured don't just know a lot about Him, but they know Him, personally. Those who know a lot about Him but don't know HIM, will be left behind. So the rapture is not going to depopulate the United States.

WHen this nation changes, it will be overnight. It will change the entire routine of any semblance of normal life in an instant. No war on our soil yet you say? Do you have any idea how many foreign soldiers are here already? Biden let them come in. They are waiting for some type of go signal to begin attacking. I think you're under estimating how peaceful it is and nothings going on. I believe that behind the scenes, this nation is on the very brink of war and calamity by Natural disasters (take you pick!)

But you're right, we are comforted by these words because the Lord is coming for us, and besides, we have nothing to fear as Believing Christians that Know Jesus. But when you know Jesus well enough to be able to recognize His voice inside you (still small voice) then, you invite Him everywhere with you with 100% surrendered to the Lord...you walk with Almighty God and can walk through the valley of the shadow of Death and fear no evil (Earth!). I live in that neighborhood!

Man doesn't have to fear anything if he knows the Lord. I took Pauls advice and have learned to be content in any situation. Sometimes I say, Lord I don't know what you're doing, but I trust you so tell me what to do! And every time, it works out good or good enough. He seems to have a pattern of, last minute never late.

Praise the Lord !!
 
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Some of the few verses that speak of the Pre-Tribulation rapture is:

26 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of man. 27 They ate, they drank, they married, they were given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise as it was in the days of Lot—they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built, 29 but on the day when Lot went out from Sodom fire and sulphur rained from heaven and destroyed them all—

30 so will it be on the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Only place these verses could fit is before the Tribulation. Since these are pre-tribulation verses the world is not at war nor inside the Tribulation. Most are living a normal everyday life but things changed in an instant.
 
Some of the few verses that speak of the Pre-Tribulation rapture is:

26 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of man. 27 They ate, they drank, they married, they were given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise as it was in the days of Lot—they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built, 29 but on the day when Lot went out from Sodom fire and sulphur rained from heaven and destroyed them all—

30 so will it be on the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Only place these verses could fit is before the Tribulation. Since these are pre-tribulation verses the world is not at war nor inside the Tribulation. Most are living a normal everyday life but things changed in an instant.

Yeah and when the rapture happens, it's Tribulation time. Now the rapture doesn't cause the tribulation but the enemy sees the rapture happen so they move quickly and it's be tribulation time real quick.
 
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The best friend Israel has in this world is America and when the rapture happens they will be looking for back up security and the coming antichrist will fill their expectations, which might be months away after the rapture.

But America will be so weaken it will be worthless to Israel.

Keep in mind the antichrist will be very loving towards Israel as he shows himself christlike till the middle of the seven. Most likely he will be a military man about 30 years of age.
 
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