Did God create people for Hell on purpose?

[Genez]

Light travels at a velocity of 299 792 458 metres per SECOND. A SECOND is a measure of time.

Yet?
God is everywhere present. God's light is always being everywhere...

 

[Genez]

Luk 8:41
And, behold, there came a man named Jairus, and he was G5225 (huparchOn) a ruler of the synagogue: and he fell down at Jesus' feet, and besought him that he would come into his house:

Was this man existing in an eternal state as a ruler of the synagogue?

If it said that the man was always in God.
That WOULD CHANGE THINGS.

 

[sawdust]

Yet?
God is everywhere present. God's light is always being everywhere...

Time is also relative. God is absolute.

 

[GWH]

Yet?
God is everywhere present. God's light is always being everywhere...

Light signifies God's omnipresence as the Word/Spirit/Power that pervades and IS the universe (I AM) and is incarnate as Christ.
God is multidimensional.

 

[homwardbound]

I will try to narrow it down to something as simple as possible.
But, that will be a challenge.

First. You asked a relatively short question.
Then made a rather long list of speculative thinking.
I will only cover your question.

I will only start here for now.
It seems you believe God gave Adam his soul and the Holy Spirit?
For you used a capital S when speaking of his Spirit.

God breathed into the nostrils, the breath of LIVES! Plural. Not simply life!

What was breathed into the nostrils?
The human soul... and the human spirit.

It is the human spirit that connects the soul to the spiritual things of God.
The indwelling Holy Spirit teaches and empowers us not to live for our sin nature.

When Adam died after eating?
He lost his human spirit.

The Holy Spirit was not to be given to permanently indwell humans until the Church age began.
That is why it says that we (the Church) have become a new creation in Christ!

Grace and Peace ..........

Thanks
I only see to take no credit to me from me. I see my Father and risen Jesus for me, won, to lead me in Daddy, Father, PaPa's Spirit and Truth in love and mercy to all
However it all is sorted out, Father knows best to let me know, and apparently you are saying Father has let you know. So you share this tid bit, thank you

 

[Kroogz]

Yet?
God is everywhere present. God's light is always being everywhere...

All powerful, all knowing and all present........If one is not true, all of them tumble.

 

[Genez]

Certainly God can look into matters and know future events. But I think it's selective. There may be something he might want to know, then finds out what will happen.

God always knew you would think that.....

 

[Kroogz]

God always knew you would think that.....

You can correct me if I am wrong. If believers would study and take to heart the angelic/Kingdom conflict.......MANY theories and questions would melt away.

The angelic conflict,IMO, is the second most important doctrine.......After Christ Crucified.

 

[Genez]

You can correct me if I am wrong. If believers would study and take to heart the angelic/Kingdom conflict.......MANY theories and questions would melt away.

The angelic conflict,IMO, is the second most important doctrine.......After Christ Crucified.

The angelic conflict can explain why we see resentments and resistance amongst believers.
And, why we see some leaping towards and clinging to false concepts....

And, why God provides what is needed to mature, yet some insist upon doing it their way.

 

[Shepherd]

Specifically what is "the angelic conflict"?

 

[Genez]

Specifically what is "the angelic conflict"?

Before man was created, it was just God and the angels.

Satan (Lucifer) started a rebellion, and angels that sided with him withdrew from God's service.

Just like we see toady with politics, they began fabricating lies and making excuses for why they were the way they were.
In their own eyes, the fallen angels felt completely justified. They had evil desires that they could not define, and God needed to condemn them for having them (murder).

How doers God resolve their ignorance, having come out of a world where no evil existed?
Well, God could create creatures that would portray their desires for them and show overtly what they could not know about the substance o0f their own desires were.

Well? God could not do that. For he can not create a sinful, evil creature from his own hand.

To solve the problem?
Create man without sin and evil.
Then, allow for Satan to trigger into effect what God could not have created.

Then use... fallen man as a portrayal of what fallen angels held in their hearts to show all angels why God was fully justified in having condemned them.

For example:

Lucifer desired in his heart to make himself be like the Most High.
To have himself receive the worship of the angels.

Sounds innocent enough, right?
But, there is the problem.

For Satan was jealously desiring to eliminate the Most High and take over his position.
That is why Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the beginning!

How could God show them what murder is?
"Let us create man in our own Image."

The rest is history....

 

[Shepherd]

Before man was created, it was just God and the angels.

Satan (Lucifer) started a rebellion, and angels that sided with him withdrew from God's service.

Just like we see toady with politics, they began fabricating lies and making excuses for why they were the way they were.
In their own eyes, the fallen angels felt completely justified. They had evil desires that they could not define, and God needed to condemn them for having them (murder).

How doers God resolve their ignorance, having come out of a world where no evil existed?
Well, God could create creatures that would portray their desires for them and show overtly what they could not know about the substance o0f their own desires were.

Well? God could not do that. For he can not create a sinful, evil creature from his own hand.

To solve the problem?
Create man without sin and evil.
Then, allow for Satan to trigger into effect what God could not have created.

Then use... fallen man as a portrayal of what fallen angels held in their hearts to show all angels why God was fully justified in having condemned them.

For example:

Lucifer desired in his heart to make himself be like the Most High.
To have himself receive the worship of the angels.

Sounds innocent enough, right?
But, there is the problem.

For Satan was jealously desiring to eliminate the Most High and take over his position.
That is why Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the beginning!

How could God show them what murder is?
"Let us create man in our own Image."

The rest is history....

I've never derived any of that in the Bible. "Create man to show the angels what murder is?"
The Bible says...........

Ecclesiastes 12: 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

and


John 4: 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

and

Hebrews 12: 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

God created mankind to fear Him, keep His commandments, worship Him, and to enjoy us as we enjoy Him. Basically to genuinely love Him and fellowship with Him; Not to prove something to the fallen angels.

 

[Genez]

I've never derived any of that in the Bible. "Create man to show the angels what murder is?"
The Bible says...........

Ecclesiastes 12: 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
John 4: 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Philippians 1:9

And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight,

 

[Genez]

I've never derived any of that in the Bible. "Create man to show the angels what murder is?"

Do you think God allowed for murder in His Kingdom where all the angels were created in an unfallen world?

How could God teach them what murder is when it would have been impossible to murder another angel?