Are There any Linux Users on This Site?

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Lynx said:
Last thing we need is yet another proprietary PC pretending to be a console. That's all the current console generation is anyway, just PCs with extremely limited interfaces. And we need another one named Steam Machine?
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I'm not sure if you understand what the Steam Machine is. In any case, it's not a “proprietary PC”. It's a PC running a full-featured Linux with all its capabilities. However, it's also not “just” a PC running Linux with Proton and Steam. Since everything comes from a single source (Valve), all components (hardware and software) will be very well harmonized.
But no one is forced to buy it. But I find it a fascinating idea, and I'm not even a big gamer. But that's exactly what I find interesting: having a “console” for the living room or desk that also offers full PC capabilities. And if it brings some people closer to Linux, in my opinion, all the better.
 
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GaryA said:
Most people do not realize that MS Windows - the operating system itself - is spyware - and, has been for many years.
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That depends on the definition. You do realize that nearly everything collects data? No one is stalking you or spying on you. I am sorry to say this but NO ONE CARES, about you, the individual.
 
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GaryA said:
And, if you just must have MS Windows for something - the "average normal" for today is that you put it in a virtual environment (running on Linux) so that you can control what it can have access to. (or, what it can "see")
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You know who compiles your kernel?
 
Skittle said:
That depends on the definition. You do realize that nearly everything collects data? No one is stalking you or spying on you. I am sorry to say this but NO ONE CARES, about you, the individual.
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The data collection without your knowledge in-of-itself constitutes the definition.

Skittle said:
You know who compiles your kernel?
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If certain things in certain areas of my life could be a bit more like I would like them to be - it would be me.
 
GaryA said:
The data collection without your knowledge in-of-itself constitutes the definition.
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Do you know who compiles your kernel?

certain things in certain areas of my life could be a bit more like I would like them to be - it would be me.[/QUOTE]
 
GaryA said:
The data collection without your knowledge in-of-itself constitutes the definition.
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The collection of your data is not being analyzed on a personal level.

That is the issue - NO ONE CARES. No one is in an office in Seattle watching over your personal life.

What is the point you are just dying to make? Just go ahead and say it.
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You seem quite concerned about privacy and how great Linux is- yet you cannot tell me who compiles your kernel. user.
 
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I'd imagine just knowing the names of the person or persons that compiles their kernels does not actually ensure the kernel is secure.

The hope is going to be that whatever organization or group of people who compiled whatever kernel being used are professionals and enthusiasts who are on the up and up.

In the end do we really know anybody?

Even on a personal level how many times do we think we know someone really well and then they turn around and do some terrible thing and make us realize we did not know them at all.

All we really knew about them was what they wanted us to know

That's kinda the sad thing about dealing with other people is we need to be prepared for them to go off the rails and do stuff we would never imagine they would ever do because in most cases people will let us down to varying degrees.

I'm new to Linux and will probably go with one of the well known distros such as Linux Mint

So, I'm hoping they don't have any rsacals over their stuffing malware into their system or anything.
 
HigherGospel said:
I'd imagine just knowing the names of the person or persons that compiles their kernels does not actually ensure the kernel is secure.

The hope is going to be that whatever organization or group of people who compiled whatever kernel being used are professionals and enthusiasts who are on the up and up.

In the end do we really know anybody?

Even on a personal level how many times do we think we know someone really well and then they turn around and do some terrible thing and make us realize we did not know them at all.

All we really knew about them was what they wanted us to know

That's kinda the sad thing about dealing with other people is we need to be prepared for them to go off the rails and do stuff we would never imagine they would ever do because in most cases people will let us down to varying degrees.

I'm new to Linux and will probably go with one of the well known distros such as Linux Mint

So, I'm hoping they don't have any rsacals over their stuffing malware into their system or anything.
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Well, unix distros are quite secure, open, and it is generally unregulated. I am not aware of any distro that was problematic especially with the licensing of the software. I used unix systems last century. I will point out, even if an operating system is getting your data, like Window++ they do not care about you.

It takes an extra special sense of self importance to believe someone is spying on you.
 
Skittle said:
No one is in an office in Seattle watching over your personal life.
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I know that. However, ...

Skittle said:
The collection of your data is not being analyzed on a personal level.
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Yes, it is - but, by computers/software and not a human.

Skittle said:
You seem quite concerned about privacy and how great Linux is- yet you cannot tell me who compiles your kernel. user.
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I am not answering your question simply because you seem to be hell-bent on forcing me to answer it - especially since the answer is painfully obvious.

What was your intent behind putting ' user.' at the end of that statement?

Also, the subtle (or not-so-subtle) "slights" are not helping your cause:
Skittle said:
I never imagined Linux advocates not being able to answer that question.
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Skittle said:
It takes an extra special sense of self importance to believe someone is spying on you.
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I do not appreciate/like your apparent attitude/disposition.

Only a really naive person does not know about the things that are being done today in the computer realm against the individual computer user.

Skittle said:
That is the issue - NO ONE CARES.
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Skittle said:
I will point out, even if an operating system is getting your data, like Window++ they do not care about you.
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You apparently are not aware that they utilize whatever data they can get on you to deliver personalized ads to your browser.

It can certainly be said that "they do not care about you" - it is a greed-driven system.

Now, why don't you be nice and answer Eli's question...
Eli1 said:
Who compiles the Linux kernel?
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I asked "ai" this question: Who compiles the Linux kernel?
This is what it said:
The Linux kernel is compiled by a vast, global community of developers, led by original creator Linus Torvalds as the chief maintainer, with key roles for subsystem maintainers (like Greg Kroah-Hartman for stable) and contributions from individuals and companies, all working on source code that users can compile themselves with a C compiler.
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Makes sense and this was my understanding.
 
Skittle said:
Well, unix distros are quite secure
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Meh, not so much now that hackers are targeting linux users and apple users these days

You know what they say, anything connected to the net can be hacked whether it's Windows, linux, or apple which is supposedly built on linux



Skittle said:
It takes an extra special sense of self importance to believe someone is spying on you.
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That's pretty hilarious seeing all the big corporations are spying on everyone they can along with the governments of the world doing the same.
 
I guess so far in this topic i see two main things.

1. Privacy
2. Spying

Anybody wants to have a coffee and discuss these two things? Or no?
 
Let me leave these two postcards on the table and if you wanna discuss, tell the waiter to call me. He has my number, and i'll come down.

1. What is your definition of Privacy and what do you think you're losing in terms of Privacy on the Internet?

2. What is your definition of Spying and who do you think is spying on your devices?
 
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