Are There any Linux Users on This Site?

[Lynx]

When this topic about privacy started here, I was just waiting for this sentence to come up sooner or later. I already mentioned what I have to say about this in my last posts here, in connection with the “naive.”


Making fun of someone just because they have a different opinion speaks volumes about a person's character.

Again: I was using humor, sarcasm and the assumption that you don't in fact have anything to hide to make a point.

 

[Lynx]

Okay. I'll be serious for a minute. (Yes I can do serious, for short stretches.)

I was not saying you are doing anything licentious or scurrilous. I was using humor, sarcasm and the assumption that you are NOT doing anything shady to make a point.

Let's assume somebody does care enough to record on a hard drive that you were parking at that parking lot. Why would you care? If you don't have anything to hide, and I assume you don't, why would you care if anybody or any computer knows?

My phone might have reported to some mainframe that yesterday I went to w*rk, then went to the auction, then came home. I can't imagine anybody cares enough to store that on a hard drive, but let's assume somebody does. A computer knows where I went yesterday.

Give me one reason why I should care that it knows this.

"THEY'RE TRACKING US!!!" Who cares? I have known for decades that they could track us. I haven't cared for one second. I have no reason to care. Let them record for all of time that I went to the store and got blueberries for dad. I have no reason to care if they know.

This is the point I was making.

 

[Coll2-8]

Again: I was using humor, sarcasm and the assumption that you don't in fact have anything to hide to make a point.

This is the point I was making.

I got it already. But did you also mean the mockery of me that I quoted earlier to be “only” sarcastic? You made me look ridiculous, and I'm clearly not the only one who saw it that way.

And you obviously didn't understand my point, or you don't want to understand it. All of the above, the creeping installation of the transparent citizen, is real and can or is already being used against the people in some cases. In the EU, laws on real-time chat monitoring are in the works, and you can read about that, it's not a conspiracy theory. In Germany, there is currently a big discussion about this because a minister-president (a position similar to a governor in the US) appeared on a talk show and described critical, non-mainstream media as enemies of democracy, calling for state control and censorship! These are not conspiracy theories, this is real! Few examples, and the list goes on and on. And you ridicule me when I take a critical view of some current developments that can or could used against us.

If you had been born in 1900, for example, when would you have spoken out against Nazi ideology or warned against it? In 1923, 1933, 1940, or never...?

Furthermore, this is an international forum and English is not everyone's native language here, including mine, so perhaps that should be taken into account before making comments that could hurt others.

 

[Lynx]

I got it already. But did you also mean the mockery of me that I quoted earlier to be “only” sarcastic? You made me look ridiculous, and I'm clearly not the only one who saw it that way.

And you obviously didn't understand my point, or you don't want to understand it. All of the above, the creeping installation of the transparent citizen, is real and can or is already being used against the people in some cases. In the EU, laws on real-time chat monitoring are in the works, and you can read about that, it's not a conspiracy theory. In Germany, there is currently a big discussion about this because a minister-president (a position similar to a governor in the US) appeared on a talk show and described critical, non-mainstream media as enemies of democracy, calling for state control and censorship! These are not conspiracy theories, this is real! Few examples, and the list goes on and on. And you ridicule me when I take a critical view of some current developments that can or could used against us.

If you had been born in 1900, for example, when would you have spoken out against Nazi ideology or warned against it? In 1923, 1933, 1940, or never...?

Furthermore, this is an international forum and English is not everyone's native language here, including mine, so perhaps that should be taken into account before making comments that could hurt others.

Well if you're determined to be offended and insulted and all, there's nothing I can do to stop you.

Same for being determined to be paranoid.

If I'm being accused of offending and insulting... It feels like I really should offend and insult you. I'm getting accused of it, so I might as well have fun with it. Right?

Right?

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Nah. Too much effort, not enough entertainment. Not worth it. Oh well.

 

[Texasgal]

Maybe people should be more afraid of how little the authorities know about people’s whereabouts and whatsoever on the internet and other places.

The flow of information is so big that nobody can monitor it in realtime, and abracadabra, when there’s time, the info is long gone.