Are There any Linux Users on This Site?

[HigherGospel]

Any system can be secure or be infiltrated because of stupid users.

And any system can be infiltrated when the greatest minds in the world are responsible for securing it too.

Let's not kid ourselves. If it's connected to the internet, it can be hacked.

People are not being spied upon.

Reality called and wants you to get back in touch.

No one has a picture of you with a file folder with all your secrets.

That's just what you think.

According to whom??

Those who like to drink the coffee

I demand anyone tell me why my avatar is a thing?

You said it was a gay duck.

God does not accept gay ducks or any other gay stuff.

 

[Skittle]

And any system can be infiltrated when the greatest minds in the world are responsible for securing it too.

Let's not kid ourselves. If it's connected to the internet, it can be hacked.

"Hacked" is not used by "hackers". Hacked is Hollywood.

I cannot get a laptop and an energy drink, crack my knuckles and compromise a system. That is Hollywood.

You can compromise a system with patience and stupidity.

Reality called and wants you to get back in touch.

Why would anyone invest time and resources in spying on you?

You said it was a gay duck.

God does not accept gay ducks or any other gay stuff.

What is gay? If you can define a gay duck, why would God not accept them?

 

[Eli1]

"Hacked" is not used by "hackers". Hacked is Hollywood.

I cannot get a laptop and an energy drink, crack my knuckles and compromise a system. That is Hollywood.

You can compromise a system with patience and stupidity.

Lol agreed.
The Hollywood version also adds Doritos chips.
So the complete list is:
* Energy drinks
* Doritos
* Cracking knuckles
* Touching the keyboard with dirty hands

And BAM you’re inside Pentagon!

 

[HigherGospel]

"Hacked" is not used by "hackers". Hacked is Hollywood.

Whatever. Bad people getting in to computer systems to access data they should not have access to.

These folks still call it hacking.

I cannot get a laptop and an energy drink, crack my knuckles and compromise a system.

Of course you can't. You don't have the skill set.

Why would anyone invest time and resources in spying on you?

You need to get up to speed on modern times happenings.

Just because you don't understand doesn't mean it's not happening.

The anti-christ will be able to keep track of the vast majority of people on the planet thru technology when the one world government comes in to being and the teach to do that has been being worked on for the past 20 plus years and is accelerating in capability very quickly now.

What is gay?

You should get to know the Lord and what all He has said about this topic in His Word.

 

[Coll2-8]

I find it somewhat naive to believe that all this data collection from big tech companies (and others...) is harmless because it is “only” for the purpose of personalized advertising and no one is interested in the individual because we are all not important enough. All this data collection is so opaque, and we simply don't know what is being done with it in detail. (And what does the Bible say about things that happen in secret?) The fact is that by collecting and analyzing all this metadata (which is the real interest behind it), massive conclusions can be drawn. And have you already forgotten the revelations that Edward Snowden uncovered?

And even if it were true that data collection is harmless for “ordinary everyday people” because we are "not important enough", the fact that it can be used against you as soon as you become “important enough” is scandalous.

And the terms and conditions of most common services allow all of this. If you think about what you agree to in Microsoft's terms and conditions, you are actually allowing them full control over every device and its content. Perhaps they are not yet making full use of their “right” when it comes to local devices, but technically and “legally” they could.

And even though I don't program and compile a Linux kernel myself, I trust the global open source community more than the power-hungry big tech companies.

 

[Eli1]

I find it somewhat naive to believe that all this data collection from big tech companies (and others...) is harmless because it is “only” for the purpose of personalized advertising and no one is interested in the individual because we are all not important enough. All this data collection is so opaque, and we simply don't know what is being done with it in detail. (And what does the Bible say about things that happen in secret?) The fact is that by collecting and analyzing all this metadata (which is the real interest behind it), massive conclusions can be drawn. And have you already forgotten the revelations that Edward Snowden uncovered?

And even if it were true that data collection is harmless for “ordinary everyday people” because we are "not important enough", the fact that it can be used against you as soon as you become “important enough” is scandalous.

And the terms and conditions of most common services allow all of this. If you think about what you agree to in Microsoft's terms and conditions, you are actually allowing them full control over every device and its content. Perhaps they are not yet making full use of their “right” when it comes to local devices, but technically and “legally” they could.

And even though I don't program and compile a Linux kernel myself, I trust the global open source community more than the power-hungry big tech companies.

Thank you for joining this discussion. I like your perspective since you also live in Switzerland if I’m not mistaken.

In EU the laws are more strict against corporations compared to USA in topics like privacy and monopoly.
But this is not because of some technicality. It’s more because of an ideology where they don’t like the big guy - in theory - because in practice you have to pay baureocrats to get anything done as a small guy.

Also I’m glad that you brought up Edward Snowden who I also consider a hero.
This is why I asked what’s your definition of spying though.
Because even during communism, which I have lived in, the secret police didn’t flag everyone for daily convo.
They flagged people for saying something against the system OR against the dictator.

So ultimately, if you’re paranoid about the internet or the world, why don’t you leave the world and become a monk?
Data collection is ultimately a salesman coming at your house trying to sell you solar panels, windows, doors, lawn service and anything else.

But if no one knows where you live, or if you live in a dessert, forest or monastery, then they can’t come, can they?

What do you think about this?

 

[Eli1]

For example in England or Germany the police might arrest you depending on what you say online.

Linux or windows is not going to protect you against that because people are saying those things with their real name on facebook … in their brilliance … and windows or Linux doesn’t protect you from hiding your ip address … since you need to put a vpn … and windows or Linux doesn’t protect you to shield you from any government request if they demand the VPN company to reveal the ip address id they go after you.

I’m sure you’ve thought about these technicalities.

 

[Skittle]

Whatever. Bad people getting in to computer systems to access data they should not have access to.

You can compromise a system. You cannot pound an energy drink and "hack" a system with wizard skills.

These folks still call it hacking.

That is wrong on many levels.

Of course you can't. You don't have the skill set.

I lack the skills.

 

[Skittle]

For example in England or Germany the police might arrest you depending on what you say online.

I am a hacker. I am a gray hat level 5.

 

[Eli1]

I am a hacker. I am a gray hat level 5.

Love your sense of humor and your clarity of ideas. You defined privacy and spying correctly.

A lot of folks nowadays are confused from the internet due to the village idiot effect which gives a village idiot the means to reach out to a large audience.

 

[Eli1]

When “hackers” infiltrated the Texas grid like 10 years ago, it wasn’t because they had any skills.
It happened because the Texas grid IT department didn’t change the default passwords to their main gateway appliance.
I wouldn’t call that hacking. That’s like leaving the keys of your house under the front rug and blaming the thief.
In that case I would blame the DEI practices for pretending to play the IT role. Not the thief.

Real hacking is when NSA programmers created a program which took down the centrifuges in Iran.
They accomplished this by inserting a USB into the laptop of a high ranking Iranian officer since their grid system was not internet based and they couldn’t get in themselves.

They developed a brilliant program which made it look like the centrifuges were failing accidentally and if it wasn’t for the Israelis being impatient this whole thing would have remained quiet and the virus wouldn’t have exploded into the windows xp systems worldwide which shut down your OS.

But who cares about these details?
Lemme get a soda!

 

[Skittle]

Love your sense of humor and your clarity of ideas. You defined privacy and spying correctly.

A lot of folks nowadays are confused from the internet due to the village idiot effect which gives a village idiot the means to reach out to a large audience.

My uncle was a "spy" for the National Security of Agency of the US.
I am a so called gray hat.

No
One
Cares

This statement is factually accurate and no one cares.

 

[Eli1]

My uncle was a "spy" for the National Security of Agency of the US.
I am a so called gray hat.

No
One
Cares

This statement is factually accurate and no one cares.

lol I gotcha now and your joke better.
If this is true then yes nobody cares because we are NOT SELF IMPORTANT like you said in your joke earlier.

 

[Skittle]

lol I gotcha now and your joke better.
If this is true then yes nobody cares because we are NOT SELF IMPORTANT like you said in your joke earlier.

My Uncle was a SPY "tactical intelligence" for the National Security Administration.
I am a gray hat and violated many laws. I have not been accused of anything.

Craps given = 0.

 

[Eli1]

My Uncle was a SPY "tactical intelligence" for the National Security Administration.
I am a gray hat and violated many laws. I have not been accused of anything.

Craps given = 0.

I'm sure you used Linux during your hacking tho.
And when you encountered other Linux systems you was like: I GIVE UP.

 

[HigherGospel]

You can compromise a system. You cannot pound an energy drink and "hack" a system with wizard skills.

No, I don't have the skill set to be able to do that.

But, there are those that do.

Just because you don't understand how doesn't mean they can't

That is wrong on many levels.

That is right on many levels.

I lack the skills.

I know.

Craps given = 0

Yeah, you seem to be a little backed up over there

 

[Skittle]

I'm sure you used Linux during your hacking tho.
And when you encountered other Linux systems you was like: I GIVE UP.

That is not how that really works.
We had challenges and the question was why.

I'm sure you used Linux during your hacking tho.
And when you encountered other Linux systems you was like: I GIVE UP.

Hacking? it is programming and developing.

I just admitted that my uncle was an actual "spy" and I was involved in illegal activities. I am not kidding. No black helicopters in sight.
You know who cares?
NO ONE!

 

[Skittle]

No, I don't have the skill set to be able to do that.

But, there are those that do.

The system is vulnerable and no one cares. No one is interested and the system is vulnerable because no one cares.

Just because you don't understand how doesn't mean they can't

I do understand and NO ONE CARES.

You see, there is no benefit or challenge.

 

[Eli1]

The system is vulnerable and no one cares. No one is interested and the system is vulnerable because no one cares.



I do understand and NO ONE CARES.

You see, there is no benefit or challenge.

Hold on now.
Someone cares. Trump cares ! He eliminated the DEI.
So a music teacher can no longer be an IT manager for critical infrastructure.

This convo deserves another coffee.
Would you like me to make you an espresso with some milk froth?
Or you don’t want to be followed by Italians if you drink that?

 

[GaryA]

two words - 'hacker' and 'cracker' - look 'em up - learn the difference...