Trinity

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painting the picture again that someone is dumb by your own enlightenment, is really not clever

This little monkey says you should be clever for better reasons 🤐


You should start a church for children...

But, only if you mature first.
 
God said "Let us make man in our own image". The key word is 'us'. Jesus later told the apostles that it was beneficial that he leaves them so that the Holy Spirit can come to them. Jesus prayed to the Father. There are many passages that affirm the Trinity. I am not going to do your work for you besides what I have already offered to substantiate the Trinity.

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Yes, the word "Elohim" is plural meaning more that one,
We know there is the Father and there is the Son, thus a family,
We also know from John 1 it was the WORD that became Jesus Christ that made every thing that has been made in heaven and on earth.
the word spirit which is the word falsely translated as ghost, is wind, breath and spirit, both in the Hebrew and in the Greek.

that word does not indicate a being. this ghost and God's Holy Spirit has no name, never talks in the first person.
on and on. The spirit can be poured, measured, can come out of our bellies like living water and more.
I can find no reason to accept a trinity, only the Father and Christ talk and interact.
And Jesus Christ states clearly I and the Father are ONE.. ONE GOD, one Elohim --- the Holy Spirit is not include in the ONE
 
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God became flesh to save His Creation but could only be with people near Him. But when God comes as the Spirit of the Lord then He is able to be with everyone at once and not limited to specific general areas at a single time.
OK.... and?
 
I often wonder why you get so personal


Because when it comes to the word of God?
You belittle it.

You are belittling the Word of God.
Belittling the Lord Jesus Christ. John 1:1 !

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
.......
 
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I am now wondering what you concept is...
God is ultimately the Most High God and our Father. When He wants to deal with us in person He comes as the Son. Those who are saved by the Father have His Spirit living inside us and He works through us to accomplish His Will on Earth.
 
God is ultimately the Most High God and our Father. When He wants to deal with us in person He comes as the Son. Those who are saved by the Father have His Spirit living inside us and He works through us to accomplish His Will on Earth.

You have God the Holy Spirit inside you.... Indwelling permanently.
That does not make you God.
 
Now, by no means am I attempting to distort, distract, make less than anything we know about God. I am simply discussing about how God works and the methods and Modes He does it by.

Ultimately, He is God before anything else we break Him down to be.
 
I hope this thread becomes a discussion about the Trinity. These are just some of my observations followed by questions.

1. The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit are God.
Question: Is this the core belief of the Trinity? Something else? Assuming it is not appropriate to call them "Gods" is there one title that actually fits the Father, the Son, and the Spirit?

2. Jesus did not consider equality with God something to be grasped (Philippians 2:6).
Question: How best can we describe the Trinity without using the word "equal"?

That's all for now. Thank you.

First and foremost the understanding of the trinity is in a gray light. Although all three are equal does not mean there is not a supreme authority. Jesus said and did only what the father told him. The Holy Spirit was sent by Jesus.
Jesus is the mediator between God and man. No man comes to the father except by me.
Jesus was given all authority.....to be given something means it was possessed by some one else.
The equality comes in the form of like mindedness. Total agreement, absolute perfect obedience in mind body and spirit.
Executing perfect judgment, mercy, grace, and love.
This can be only found in a divine person.who knows the end from the beginning both spiritual and physical.
 
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Jesus said pray to the Father or ask, command in His Name.

Show me a Verse in the Bible where they're praying to the Spirit?

God is Spirit.

God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.” John 6:24​