God said "Let us make man in our own image". The key word is 'us'. Jesus later told the apostles that it was beneficial that he leaves them so that the Holy Spirit can come to them. Jesus prayed to the Father. There are many passages that affirm the Trinity. I am not going to do your work for you besides what I have already offered to substantiate the Trinity.
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Oh you are gonna love this golden nugget but those are typically Church of God in the hills and mountains of Kentucky and West Virginia. And what's funnier, they're hard core trinitarians.
They probably do not know why though.
They simply accept what they read in Scripture devoid of understanding.
That is why they literally drink poison and handle snakes.
Just the same..
I wonder how they get around the passage where Jesus warned if your right eye causes you to sin?
Their sign on Church?
"First Church of the One Eye."
Yep that's how he for-knows everybody, only for some reason you don't want to accept it, which makes no sense to me seeing as you believe this.
Surely if he is present over all time surely he can see your relationship with him in advance.
Surely that is for-knowing you ?
It's like being in the middle of what will later be known as a miracle that's literally impossible for humans to intervene and there's no understanding to even how to explain what happened other than you was there and some how some way survived.
Of course, my God is the God that knows the ending from the beginning and although my life is working and moving forward God has placed these unknown miraculous events so when it's done and over with I have both a witness and testimony about my God.
You are attacking a straw man. I did not say there are three Gods.
You might be right. God might be one Person. But the Bible does not state explicitly that God is one Person. And neither does it explicitly stare that God is three Persons. But I hope we can agree that Jesus Christ is the one God has made King of kings, whom we must follow, obey and serve.If we are amomg to do that with a clean conscience, the speculative finer details wherein we differ need not disrupt our fellowship and unity in Him.
Sorry, what you say does not in any way prove the trinity.
and there is zero proof in the entirety of the WORD of God.
there are Two, God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son
The Holy Spirit is the spirit in both the Father and the Son and which they put in us, That ONE Spirit.
God Is a family, the Father and the Son please explain how a "ghost" is part of the God Family.
the trinity doctrine is from Rome as are all other lies.
But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit
and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was
it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control?
Why have you conceived this thing in your heart?
You have not lied to men but to God.” Acts 5:3-4
Peter calls the Holy Spirit - God.
Now?
You want to argue?
Change the Word of God first.
Grace and peace ...........
Perhaps our obsession with hierarchy confounds our understanding of "One". We demand to know who is in charge, or, more likely, who gets to rule over whom.
In a parable, Jesus came to the following conclusion: "And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’"
We may extrapolate this understanding: those who are the Lord's should be treated as though they are actually Him, indeed.
This is further emphasized by the Lord's prayer in John 17:
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me."
This isn't Jesus wishing things into being. He is declaring what is true by His sovereignty (and all authority in heaven and on earth was given to Him) By this foundational principle, there is no argument against Him that may stand.
To carry this further, Paul revealed that we are indeed "..members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones."
If we pair this with Jesus' declaration that He and Father are One, can we conclude that anything done against one in Christ is done against the Father?
It would seem that God has made Himself vulnerable here as only God can do: by declaring Himself so. Just as the Living God has no need unless He says He does, He also is invulnerable unless He makes Himself otherwise.
Certainly nothing threatens God's agency. No. Nothing may diminish His power except Himself. But His Body, on this side of eternity, is not invulnerable. We may be killed and be hurt or injured. Knowing this, and to keep us from meting out revenge on others, He stops our hand of retribution with another declaration:
Paul wrote: "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Payment for the debt incurred against us is the Lord's to repay. We should understand this as the Lord's personal responsibility. Paul even exercised this grace, that of the Lord's repayment for harm against himself, against Alexander the coppersmith:
"Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him according to his works."
Pro tip: you don't want to be that guy when the Lord settles the debt.
But the observance is this: even though we are one in Him, by His own declaration, some functions within Himself are reserved for Himself, alone.
Are we part of Him? Yep. Are we part of His Body? Absolutely. Can we do everything He can do? Nope. Only what He permits. That's the distinction between the Head and the Body: the Head commands the Body, not the other way around.
More in a bit...
In a parable, Jesus came to the following conclusion: "And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’"
We may extrapolate this understanding: those who are the Lord's should be treated as though they are actually Him, indeed.
This is further emphasized by the Lord's prayer in John 17:
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me."
This isn't Jesus wishing things into being. He is declaring what is true by His sovereignty (and all authority in heaven and on earth was given to Him) By this foundational principle, there is no argument against Him that may stand.
To carry this further, Paul revealed that we are indeed "..members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones."
If we pair this with Jesus' declaration that He and Father are One, can we conclude that anything done against one in Christ is done against the Father?
It would seem that God has made Himself vulnerable here as only God can do: by declaring Himself so. Just as the Living God has no need unless He says He does, He also is invulnerable unless He makes Himself otherwise.
Certainly nothing threatens God's agency. No. Nothing may diminish His power except Himself. But His Body, on this side of eternity, is not invulnerable. We may be killed and be hurt or injured. Knowing this, and to keep us from meting out revenge on others, He stops our hand of retribution with another declaration:
Paul wrote: "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Payment for the debt incurred against us is the Lord's to repay. We should understand this as the Lord's personal responsibility. Paul even exercised this grace, that of the Lord's repayment for harm against himself, against Alexander the coppersmith:
"Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him according to his works."
Pro tip: you don't want to be that guy when the Lord settles the debt.
But the observance is this: even though we are one in Him, by His own declaration, some functions within Himself are reserved for Himself, alone.
Are we part of Him? Yep. Are we part of His Body? Absolutely. Can we do everything He can do? Nope. Only what He permits. That's the distinction between the Head and the Body: the Head commands the Body, not the other way around.
More in a bit...
You sly ole fox... you conveniently left out a few Verses later Peter explained to the wife of Ananias they both lied to the Spirit of the Lord.
Of course there's only one Lord who is LORD of lords!
I wish to prove nothing.
I am trying to explain why God is a trinity.
Because He is...
Those who are not so blessed, will simply not be made able (by grace) to see it, no matter what we show them.
So don't waste my time, please.
Drop the pretense, please.
The Spirit of the Lord is the Holy Spirit, whom is God.
Just as Jesus is "the Soul of God" as the Son of God.
Angels are spirits.
Men are souls.
God became flesh to save His Creation but could only be with people near Him. But when God comes as the Spirit of the Lord then He is able to be with everyone at once and not limited to specific general areas at a single time.
painting the picture again that someone is dumb by your own enlightenment, is really not clever
This little monkey says you should be clever for better reasons
