Loss of salvation???

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Did you, I don't see any scripture.

FYI, JESUS IS GOD!!!

HIS WORD PROVING IT.

I like letting his word do the talking.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

John 1:1 plus 10-12
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days ((( I will raise it up.)))

Look here, JESUS speaking to Nicodemus. JESUS is ON the earth and he is also in Heaven!!
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Verses that JESUS spoke and those that GOD spoke.
JESUS IS COMING
1 Thess 3:11-13, Matthew 25:31-46, Titus 2:11-13
GOD IS COMING
Zechariah 14:4,5, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Revelation 19:11, 16

JESUS THE CREATOR
John 1:10, 1 cor 8:6, Ephesians 3:9, Col. 1:12-17, Hebrews 1:8-12, Revelation 4:8-11, 10:6, 14:6-7, 21:5-7, 22:3.
GOD THE CREATOR
Genesis 1:1, 2:7, Job 33:4, Psalm 33:6, 104:30, I sa 40:28, 44:24, 45:11-18, Mal 2:10

JESUS THE ROCK
1 Thess 3:11-13, Matt 25:31-46, Titus 2:11-13
GOD THE ROCK
Deut 32:1-4, 2 Samuel 22:1-3, 22:32, Psalm 18:2, 31:3, 78:34-35, 89:26, Isaiah 17:10-11

JESUS THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR
1 John 4:14, 1 Peter 2:21-24, Acts 20:28, Gal 3:13, Luke 24:21-29, 2:10-11, Philippians 3:20, 1 Timothy 1:1-3, 4:10, Tutus 1:1-4, 2:10-13, 1 Peter 1:10-11, Jude 25
GOD THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR
Psalm 78:34-35, I Isaiah 47:4, 44:6, 43:3-11, 45:21, 49:26, Psalm 106:21, Luke 1:46-47

JESUS FIRST AND LAST
Revelation 1:17, 22:13
GOD FIRST AND LAST
Isaiah 41:4, 43:10-11, 44:6-8

JESUS THE SHEPHERD
John 10:8-12, 1 Peter 2:21-25, Hebrews 13:20, 1 peter 5:4
GOD THE SHEPHERD
Psalm 23, Isaiah 40:10-11, Psalm 100

JESUS THE I AM AND I AM HE
John 18:5-8, 8:24-28, Revelation 1:17-18,
GOD THE I AM AND I AM HE
Exodus 3:13-14, Isaiah 43:10-11 and 25.

JESUS THE KING
Matthew 2:1-6, Luke 19:32-28, 23:3, John 18:37, 19:21, 1 Timothy 6:13-16, Revelation 15:1-4, 19:11-16
GOD THE KING
Psalm 24, 44:4, 74:12, Isaiah 43:10-15, 44:6-8, Jeremiah 10:10, Zechaniah 14:9
youve once again twisted what I've said, and once again I'm quoting scripture,

All that you quote here is all done with the devine nature of God, and his devine nature is the father the son and the holy spirit, which is never separated, so if you where to say that God is everywhere you would also have to say so is the holy spirit and the son,

John 5:19

The father devine nature disciplines a person first inwardly before there handed to the son, and the son does his fathers will, and all along there never separated in nature there always one God.

John 6:32
 
The LOGOS is perfectly logical and provides light for humanity (John 1:1-4).
Yes, but we also need the rhema, the word revealed. A Greek Christian explained it like this. The Logos can be compared to an armoury where swords, shields, bows, spears and armour is stored. The rhema is the individual weapon that is required at a given time. Logos is the Word available. Rhema is the Word applicable.

English is a mongrel language. Greek has much more nuance than English. For example, we have one word for life, Greek has three. The same applies to the word love.
 
youve once again twisted what I've said, and once again I'm quoting scripture,

All that you quote here is all done with the devine nature of God, and his devine nature is the father the son and the holy spirit, which is never separated, so if you where to say that God is everywhere you would also have to say so is the holy spirit and the son,

John 5:19

The father devine nature disciplines a person first inwardly before there handed to the son, and the son does his fathers will, and all along there never separated in nature there always one God.

John 6:32

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to twist your words and I didn't see scripture just you talking.

I did not say GOD is everywhere but I HE is for a fact.

Since there is only ONE GOD how could he go without HIMSELF?

In JESUS dewels it ALL.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
 
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to twist your words and I didn't see scripture just you talking.

I did not say GOD is everywhere but I HE is for a fact.

Since there is only ONE GOD how could he go without HIMSELF?

In JESUS dewels it ALL.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
You obviously can't grasp what I'm saying, The devine nature of God is never separated, do you understand that concept ?

The father the son and the spirit are one, the devine nature in the son is the same as the father and and the holy spirit, they all have the same devine nature, never separated

It's not rocket science, the only thing that's separated is people having all three divine natures in them.l, untill there saved and sealed
2 John 1:9

The first devine nature of the father is the first devine nature in a person that leads them to the inheriting the devine nature of son and the holy spirit

The fathers devine nature in a person works in many ways, building a person up in the heart , correcting them disciplining them, pricking there conscience, guiding people and even guiding people when there little children, so basically no one inherits the sons devine nature until the father devine nature is complete in a person. 🙂
 
I have no idea what your asking sorry

Since JESUS is the father the son and the Holy Ghost, where JESUS goes they go with HIM.

Like you and I when we go somewhere we take our body and spirit with us, HE does also.
 
Since JESUS is the father the son and the Holy Ghost, where JESUS goes they go with HIM.

Like you and I when we go somewhere we take our body and spirit with us, HE does also.
The devine of God is never separated
 
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Understood all along. Mid-Acts or Hyper-Dispensationalism framework coupled with OSAS binary which I clearly rejected quite some time ago by adding a third option which was summarily dismissed with OSAS binary.

Around and around we go...

Whatever...as usual, you refuse to offer defense of your works-based salvation stand within the lower regions of Evangelicalism and scraping along Covenant and Replacement Theology... As to labels, I'm a biblicist.

MM
 
Whatever...as usual, you refuse to offer defense of your works-based salvation stand within the lower regions of Evangelicalism and scraping along Covenant and Replacement Theology... As to labels, I'm a biblicist.

MM

You're not really a biblicist because you totally ignore scripture that refutes your two-covenant view of the bible. That creates a very deviant and artificial theology
 
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His sheep NEVER perish.

How can one of His sheep believe they can perish?
2 possibilities:

1:They are not His sheep.

2:They are deceived sheep.
In John 10:27-28, we read - My sheep hear My voice, (not some of them hear His voice and some of them don't hear His voice) and I know them, (not some of them He knows and some of them He doesn't know) and they follow Me. (not some of them follow Him and some of them don't follow Him) And I give them eternal life, (not some of them He gives eternal life and some of them He doesn't give eternal life) and they shall never perish; (not some of them will never perish and some of them will perish) neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. (not some of them will never be snatched out of His hand and some of them will be snatched out of His hand)

His sheep have eternal security. In contrast with those do not believe and are not His sheep. (John 10:25-26)
 
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to twist your words and I didn't see scripture just you talking.

I did not say GOD is everywhere but I HE is for a fact.

Since there is only ONE GOD how could he go without HIMSELF?

In JESUS dewels it ALL.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
How could God be in a burning bush, and every where else at the same time? He is God, and we can see only what He allows.
 
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In John 10:27-28, we read - My sheep hear My voice, (not some of them hear His voice and some of them don't hear His voice) and I know them, (not some of them He knows and some of them He doesn't know) and they follow Me. (not some of them follow Him and some of them don't follow Him) And I give them eternal life, (not some of them He gives eternal life and some of them He doesn't give eternal life) and they shall never perish; (not some of them will never perish and some of them will perish) neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. (not some of them will never be snatched out of His hand and some of them will be snatched out of His hand)

His sheep have eternal security. In contrast with those do not believe and are not His sheep. (John 10:25-26)

Keep in mind that when Jesus spoke those words, His sheep were of Israel, not Gentiles apart from those who proselytized into Judaism.

Matthew 15:24 — But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

We aren't sheep. We're adopted as co-heirs and sons with Christ:

Galatians 4:5 — To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

It doesn't get any better than that.

Good stuff.

MM