you have it backwards again, God created mankind with his will.
nope ... until you provide the post number, your claim that a "sarcastic free willer said when an unbeliver does good there doing evil" is as imaginary as your use of the imaginary misnomer "free willer".
Paul called himself a servant (doulos) of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Has someone said only the Calvies are drawn? Just looks like another dishonest misdirect from you.
nope I don't like repeating myself . Because showing the actions of a sarcastic free willer suffering with hate may do some good but so far all the hate I've tried to help people with here in this thread has only made the sarcastic free willer hate more, so nope I showed you and I wont be showing you again
. Because I know even if i show you again you will not listen anyway, as you've done already
I showed you the definition of volition. Just because you want to make the claim that will and volition are two separate things does not make it so. We make decisions according to our will. That is a volitional act. They are the same thing.
Again.
volition
American
[voh-lish-uhn, vuh-] / voʊˈlɪʃ ən, və- /
noun
- the act of willing, choosing, or resolving; exercise of willing.
Synonyms: choice , discretion
She left of her own volition.
- a choice or decision made by the will.
- the power of willing; will.
A volitional choice is your will in action and it is either from a will that has been freed by grace or it is a will in bondage to sin. Ergo, when living by means of God's grace, our will is free.
No, we choose according to what we desire. Which is how we can still sin. James 1:15
That makes no sense. On one hand you choose to walk by means of the Spirit but you have no control over your growth? You just chose to co-operate so you do have some control especially considering a fruit of the Spirit is self-control.
You have effectively said you never sin. If you have chosen to walk by the Spirit (and you say you have) and you can only make decisions based on the one influencing you, then logically you can only make right decisions and therefore never sin.
None of us can do what is right and good in the sight of God apart from grace. This is not about God's work in the process but what we are doing or failing to do.
As long as you think your choices are not the consequences of your freed will, but are solely based on the influence of God, you will never need to confess or repent, for it is impossible for you to do wrong.
In other words, I waste my time discussing anything with you because logically, it is inconceivable you can be wrong.
Have a nice life.
There is a “general call” which goes out to all men. This call is refused by most men, yet leaves them with no excuse. However, the “effectual call” by the Holy Spirit cannot be refused. It is a call that works a change in those to whom it is sent. A change that provides us with a saving knowledge and a desire to know God.
You don't care what you say, how you say it or who you aim your comments at. All you done everyday since I've been here is label people almost everydayThey have blinded themselves.
When speaking to Calvinists, it is not like speaking to someone with a different opinion or a different view.
There is a reason they must constantly remove their proof text from the surrounding context.
It is not a genuine discussion.
Those who are trained to employ many different tactics like redirection, post hoc rationalizations, cherry picking verses etc.,
They are looking for converts to the system.
They must present the system as being the ultimate truth, the highest level of understanding so that people will be persuaded by it.
Notice how they they will eventually come to "you are saving yourself" false accusation.
This is a tactic they employ,.....guilt, accuse people of taking glory away from God.
It is all psychological, and the people who fall for this false "system" tend to fall into a certain group.
Sometimes the "covert" part fails and they show who they really are.
It is really sad this system has become ubiquitous in the churches because it never used to be.
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You don't care what you say, how you say it or who aim your comments at. All you done everyday since I've been here is label people,
constantly abusing peoples faith can result in people losing hope, developing low self esteem even stress leading to mental health issues as well even trauma, which then can cause a person to develop self destructive tendencies.
And don't say it doesn't happen because my helped people her whole life being on the end of people abusive comments all the time
You really need to stop
you wouldn't have to repeat yourself if you had actually provided the post number ... which you never did, notwithstanding your insistence that you did.
Says the person who entered this thread breathing out lies and false accusations, then talking about how Christians ought to behave!
