Speaking in tongues
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He speaks incoherently, so therefore all who speak incoherent are like him and just babbling? He also preaches from the Bible. So, by your logic that means all who preach from the Bible are like him and are false teachers..
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Not every Christian spoke in tongues. Not all had the same gifts.
“But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.”
no there was not language he did not know HE is GOD. He knew thoughts, He spoke of future evens he knew all things. the only limit he had was psychical presence because of the body, God became man not man became God.
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God is not a dictator who punishes us for misunderstanding or growing in knowledge. He knows we will make mistakes and misunderstand at first. Spiritual growth is a process, a blessing, not a curse. As we learn more and mature, our understanding becomes fuller, but our soul is not at risk simply because we didn’t grasp everything immediately. God values our pursuit of truth and our willingness to grow, and He honors honest effort even when our knowledge is incomplete. Saying something that’s partially correct, or true but incomplete, isn’t the same as being in error in a way that condemns your soul. The early church didn’t have everything at the start of Christ’s ministry—they learned gradually, through experience, correction, and revelation. Mistakes or incomplete knowledge, then learning more in time are part of growth. Spiritual maturity comes through a combination of study, prayer, experience, and refinement—and that process is meant to shape, not punish. Have we ever had an incorrect view of something that we once held, but looking back we would know it wouldn’t condemn if we died believing it? Of course. As time goes on, the incorrect view or the partial view becomes more fuller than before. It’s all part of growing in the faith and knowledge. God has never expected perfect comprehension or understanding. Honest misunderstanding is different than rebellion.
actually this is something you have been quite accustomed to
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”
But what you've been doing is blessing those that curse for you
That's because his language wasn't strange to him
I would imagine its not strange either to the interpreter who ls been chosen to interpret,
All tho since the speaker has had his tongue tied while the holy spirit words are interpreted, it could be the speaker when finished says whats just been said and other times he knows what's just been said.
But I believe its a case of praying that's the key.
I guess a good way to find out is pray with a friend.
And if it doesn't happen it wasn't for you.
It could be you could pray for something else.
You could pray for endurance to remain vigilant
I apologize, but I don't understand what you mean.That's because his language wasn't strange to him
I would imagine its not strange either to the interpreter who ls been chosen to interpret,
All tho since the speaker has had his tongue tied while the holy spirit words are interpreted, it could be the speaker when finished says whats just been said and other times he knows what's just been said.
But I believe its a case of praying that's the key.
I guess a good way to find out is pray with a friend.
And if it doesn't happen it wasn't for you.
It could be you could pray for something else.
You could pray for endurance to remain vigilant
Keep in mind that no one spoke in tongues until Jesus was glorified and poured out the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost. Joel prophesied about the experience that would take place. And Peter explained that the unusual speech had nothing to do with people being drunk. What they saw and heard was the result of having been given the promised Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:4, 14-17
"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance...."
"But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:..."
This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear." Acts 2:32-33
@Jordon Your indication that you thought my comment was funny is puzzling. Especially given the fact that I was seriously wondering exactly what you were attempting to convey.
well I thought it was funny since I was speaking by my tongue
Well praying to speak in tongues could be requested with a hope that the holy spirit can speak and you can see a miracle, it doesn't necessarily need to prayed for to show proof of being saved.
well if you pray to for a friend to speak in tongues, and you to be a witness to interpret the hearing.
And it doesn't happen then you can pray to for patience to in waiting because you can't demand it happens straight away, it may happen next week
True but he is also to be our example and so if he never spoke in tongues when receiving the holy spirit then is it really the sign that one has received it?
Was Jesus' fleshly mind opposing and confusing His ability to hear what the Holy Spirit was saying to Him? If not, why would He need the gift of tongues?
It shows the argument that "speaking in tongues is a 'manifestation of the spirit'" is false. Just as scripture proves that even the devil can quote from scripture.
I include a link to a page with some common logical fallacies, because the logic you are using is clearly flawed. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
The fact that anyone could just babble any old gibberish in their services, and these people would believe it is speaking in tongues - possibly with someone else even "interpreting" the gobbledygook by announcing a false prophecy (it certainly wouldn't be the first), should in itself should tell you they have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to tongues, interpretation of the tongues, or discerning spirits. If these people really were speaking in (real) tongues, they would easily be able to identify a faker. That they can't proves they are all deceivers and deceived.
The people praying for Blain were asking God to give him the Holy Ghost, they were not praying for him to be able to speak in tongues. (Luke 11:13, 8:15) Scripture reveals speaking in tongues automatically occurs when believers' bodies are filled with the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:4, 10:43-48, 19:1-7)well I thought it was funny since I was speaking by my tongue
Well praying to speak in tongues could be requested with a hope that the holy spirit can speak and you can see a miracle, it doesn't necessarily need to prayed for to show proof of being saved.