He's not suggesting I'm going to hell. The tin foil comes from a conspiracy theory thread.
Another Salvation Thread: Sin and Salvation
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They way they do that is claim things God calls sin are not actually sin.
Others claim what Augustine taught was that it's their body that sins not them
Rom 8: 1-2 There is, therefore, now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. How are we in Christ Jesus? We are in Christ Jesus when we become part of his spiritual body, his Church. Jesus received this spiritual body when he went back to the Father to get glorified. All members of his body receive the Holy Spirit and are born again. In Isaiah 63: 9-10 the Holy Spirit is referred as the Angel of His presence. In otherwords, where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is. The Holy Spirit is the mind, will, heart, and power of the Father. Those that are filled with the Holy Spirit become the temple of the Father because the Father resides in their beings. The Holy Spirit is a portal through which the Father can enter the beings indwelled in order to enlighten, speak through, empower, and motivate in order to perform His will. When Jesus baptizes you with the Holy Spirit, you receive this portal through which Jesus can enter your being, and so can the Father who is in Jesus. Together, they change your motivation for living from love of self first, to love of God first, and all others as you love yourself. This is the first and second commandment given by Jesus when on earth. These two commandments encapsulate all the commandments given to Moses. The first is called the Spirit of the Law, and the latter is called the Letter of the Law. Jesus made it easy for us. When your motivation for every thought and action is love for God first, and love for everyone else as you love yourself, you will not sin. 1 Cor 13 states that it doesn't matter what good you do, it is meaningless if it is not done with love in your heart. Salvation is not thought processes or actions. Salvation is a state of being where a person is divinely filled with love for God first and all others as he loves himself. When you are in this state of being, you are following the Spirit of the Law.
And as a side note Gideon your comments about Muslims made me laugh but in there you showed some Roman Catholic reflexes against “works” but actually they do it because they truly believe not because of “works”.
No one kills themselves and others and THINKS they will go to heaven unless you have some strong belief which of course in their case comes from a perversion of the interpretation of Koran.
But I’m actually more interested in what I see as contradictions in your posts if you could explain those to me please, I really don’t want to do another Salvation debate.
Since I’ve been on this forum, I’ve avoid it.
"Since I’ve been on this forum, I’ve avoid it."
Of course you do.
I honestly have no time or patience with sinless perfectionists.
An incredibly destructive doctrine.
And I CERTAINLY wouldn't be confessing sins to one.
You have no concept of the Holiness and perfection of our Lord.
Funny you say that.
Jude 24-25 (present you faultless) and Ephesians 5:27 (holy and without blemish)
Did you remove these passages from your Bible yet?
If one abides in Christ with a clear conscience not knowingly or willingly engaging in sinful behavior - the Lord counts them as being faultless, holy and without blemish
James 4:17
to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Romans 14:23
whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
And if one falters and does wrong, but acknowledges and repents of wrongdoing, then that is being blameless in God's eyes.
See here's the GIGANTIC problem with these guys, and their " I don't sin anymore, or at least KNOWINGLY sin" heresy.
Jude 24–25
English Standard Version
Doxology
24 Now to HIM
They don't know WHO the "HIM" is.
They think it's THEM that presents themselves blameless and without sin.
That's why they can't admit they still sin.
This is true but they cannot live in sin continually like many are doing thinking they can go to church on Sunday and pray a little prayer of repentance and still go to heaven.
Very few churches preach what you just posted.
Romans 6:14-16
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Big difference in falling short of God's absolute perfection such as making simple mistakes such as forgetting to do something, or dropping something on the ground (imperfections we must be cleansed of - see 1 John 1:7) verses walking after the flesh
Man does in fact have a responsibility to submit to the Lord as the Lord gave us free will and cannot force anybody to submit since He is the One that decided to make man in His Own Image which is how and when we got free will
2 Timothy 2:21
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honor, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
You're not just confessing your sins to me, you've just confessed to the world on a public forum that you are still sinning and saying, with utter disdain for Christians that say they no longer practice sin, that you are not part of them. It's important for fellow Christians to know what sins you are still practicing that you believe they are permitted to practice indefinitely because sin is a very broad term. Can your fellow Christians keep murdering, lying, stealing, committing adultery, fornicating... can they continue to practice any of these or all of these till the day they breathe their last breath and still be saved? And I do not see how a doctrine that teaches Christians to abstain from sin can be "incredibly destructive" compared to a doctrine that teaches Christians that they can sin all they want because they're still gonna be saved.
Yeah, they go around proudly proclaiming "I'm still a sinner" so that's a good point to ask them what sinful behavior are they still engaged in.
Of course they never disclose what sins they enjoy after claiming to still be a sinner and instead all they do is get mad
It's destruction to the false doctrine that they espouse.
Yes... It’s time to start calling all of them out. They want to start threads broadcasting that they are sinning Christians then they must be experts on being a sinning Christian. Therefore why not teach others in more detail on how to be a successful sinning Christian by saying what sins they are committing and if there are any limitations to the severity of the sins able to be continued and the maximum duration those sins can be continued? We may have a Christian serial killer on the forum, an “expert” Christian sinner, that can teach others the right type of prayer of repentance to make after each killing.
No lying, fornicating, adultery. (including no porn) theft, coveting, boasting, bragging, using God's name in vain including the "OMG".... now what about you?
Nope. The thread is about sin. Hard to exclude sin from a discussion of sin and have a discussion.