Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

[SomeDisciple]

It was always there if one goes back into his old statements, funding for his projects etc.,
He was a "useful idiot" so to speak, who was able to mobilize support because of his appeal.

He is part of the cover-up now, that much is obvious.

I am glad you are being objective about him.

I don't think that's necessarily true. If he's going off the rails, it might be coercion, too. People have already tried to kill him- I have no doubt he and his family are still being threatened as well.

 

[ZNP]

. just saying, the real world operates on what can be demonstrated. not on what might be happening.

OK, so demonstrate to me how this guy could get on the roof with a rifle, how that bullet would sever his spine without decapitating him, how this man could then sit there for a minute while he disassembles the rifle and then puts it into a back pack that is too small to hide the rifle and yet we can see the backpack on the video and the rifle is completely hidden, and then he is able to jump down off the roof where he shot Charlie from without anyone seeing him, leave the campus, and then reassemble his gun in a park to be left there.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

We are discussing the evidence.

Summary of what we know so far

Here are questions and facts concerning the assassination.

1. The Feds say a 30-06 bullet severed Charlies spine in his neck.

The feds making an official statement is evidence that can be entered in court.

So then we are discussing this evidence: it would seem to be absurd because if that bullet had severed the spine it would have decapitated Charlie. So this is the first very big question. Why would they be disingenuous about this?

2. How was it that security did not see this man on the roof with a gun?

This is also evidence. The claim is he was on a roof 200 yards away and shot Charlie from that position. TPUSA admits Charlie had security. So either they saw this man and did nothing or they didn't see him. Either way it looks very bad for them, but seeing him and not doing anything is much worse. Better to be incompetent than evil. So we are discussing this evidence, which we have video tape of, wondering how could this be.

3. How was this man able to walk away after shooting Charlie while carrying a rifle?

This also is in evidence. The rifle they say he used to shoot Charlie was found in a park a very good distance from the campus. How did it get there? Another question about the evidence.

4. TPUSA is a very powerful political organization. Donald Trump and several other politicians gave this organization credit for getting him elected.

This is also evidence, these statements were made during the memorial service in Phoenix, and as that was streamed around the world we have millions of witnesses and recordings of this.

5. As a result of this assassination Erika Kirk became the CEO of TPUSA.

Once again, this is evidence. Certainly can be entered into a court of Law.

6. Also, immediately after this assassination, after Erika Kirk took control she canceled the full audit that Charlie had scheduled because of concerns over how the money donated to this non profit was being spent.

This is based on testimony from those inside the company who for obvious reasons want to remain anonymous. But if this were ever to get to court they could testify there.

7. Charlie’s mom and sister both feel something is wrong with Erika and have said so. This is why they refused to come to the Memorial in Phoenix.

Once again, a fact that they did not come to the Memorial and have publicly stated that they felt something was wrong with Erika.

8. Charlie’s father also refused to come to the Memorial in Phoenix.

9. Some of the long time donors to TPUSA have frozen their donations after the audit was cancelled because of the lack of transparency.

10. Erika Kirk has direct links to the military industrial complex, her father is an executive for Raytheon and was instrumental in the building of Israel’s Iron Dome and her mother runs a company based in Arizona that receives military contracts. Erika herself ran a charity out of Romania called “Romanian Angels” for orphans. She also knew Trump prior to meeting Charlie because she was in his beauty pageants.

11. Erika Kirk was on Jesse Watters show and was interviewed, He asked her if she thought the person that was in custody was the one who killed her husband and was solely responsible. She refused to answer that question saying only that she trusts the investigators will find the truth.

12. The director of the FBI was also asked and said it was an ongoing investigation, they have not closed it yet and they are not claiming anything more than that the man in custody was involved. So neither Erika nor the FBI director are claiming the man in custody is the one who killed Charlie, they are not claiming the investigation is over, they are not even claiming they know who killed Charlie.

13. Meanwhile we have several very outspoken members of this thread with StanDupp being the latest one, telling people to shut up, the case is closed. Think of the arrogance to say this when the FBI director and Charlie’s widow won’t even say that. StanDupp is saying that anyone who does not go along with his demand that the case is closed is getting “The Clueless Award”. He also refers to anyone who is questioning this and concerned with the truth about what happened as liars, cheats, frauds and heretics.

In fact all 13 points are facts. Not all would be used as evidence in a trial, doubt point 13 would ever make it into the trial, but they are all facts, all evidence.

So I'm Googling these facts and not finding any answers. I'm going to pick one and please share the link for this info. Her father works for Raytheon.

 

[Dude653]

LOL Are you saying that anyone married to a Catholic is protecting pedophiles? Because if you aren't saying that what is your point?

Dude, you are the one who has destroyed your credibility.

I'm saying it's hypocritical to talk smack about LGBT people while also being connected to the biggest pedophile protecting agency on the planet

 

[shittim]

@ZNP
Or both and more?
He doesn't take in, repent and grow in the Lord yet complains about the trouble he brought into his house and life.
please keep him in effectual prayer.
On a lighter note-
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o5dnke831uo

 

[Dude653]

OK, so demonstrate to me how this guy could get on the roof with a rifle, how that bullet would sever his spine without decapitating him, how this man could then sit there for a minute while he disassembles the rifle and then puts it into a back pack that is too small to hide the rifle and yet we can see the backpack on the video and the rifle is completely hidden, and then he is able to jump down off the roof where he shot Charlie from without anyone seeing him, leave the campus, and then reassemble his gun in a park to be left there.

it's almost as if bullets are capable of doing all kinds of unpredictable things or something

 

[ZNP]

it's almost as if bullets are capable of doing all kinds of unpredictable things or something

Ah yes, the old magic bullet explanation.

 

[HigherGospel]

Candice Owens is essentially the female version of Alex Jones and should never be taken seriously about anything ever

Yep that's true. That became obvious long ago.

What was funny was when Alex Jones was actually crying on his show about losing the lawsuit after the claimed there were no dead kids from that school shooting he claim was all staged.

it's almost as if bullets are capable of doing all kinds of unpredictable things or something

And when a person's spine is severed there are still muscles, tendons, and other flesh that keep the head attached to the body.

It doesn't just fall off as their are claiming it would.

 

[Dude653]

Ah yes, the old magic bullet explanation.

nothing magical about it, it's just physics and biology.

when I was about 14, a buddy of mine accidentally shot me with his granddads 22 pistol.

it was just inches away from hitting vital organs.

could have easily gone the other way as I said because bullets are unpredictable sometimes
especially when you consider that a 22 bullet has a tendency to bounce around when it hits bone.

 

[HeIsHere]

I don't think that's necessarily true. If he's going off the rails, it might be coercion, too. People have already tried to kill him- I have no doubt he and his family are still being threatened as well.

I do not doubt coercion, but no gets to the highest office unless they are already highly compromised.

 

[Dude653]

Yep that's true. That became obvious long ago.

What was funny was when Alex Jones was actually crying on his show about losing the lawsuit after the claimed there were no dead kids from that school shooting he claim was all staged.






And when a person's spine is severed there are still muscles, tendons, and other flesh that keep the head attached to the body.

It doesn't just fall off as their are claiming it would.

apparently znp thinks he's an expert on ballistics and biology.

dunning Kruger personified

 

[Eli1]

I see some question here about WHY doesn't everyone engage with Alex Jones or Owens to answer their questions.

Because nobody wants to engage with the stupid, that's why. The moment you take a flat earther seriously, you've become the village idiot yourself. So that's why.
The masses want deranged entertainment, kinda like a meth addict scratching his neck for more drugs.
They want fantasies so they listen to these lunatic like zombies ... but the rest know not to engage in a debate with a village idiot.

 

[Eli1]

And you know, as it typically goes in United States, just like Jones got slapped with a lawsuit depending on what they say, so may Owens.
This is how these things go.

 

[HeIsHere]

I see some question here about WHY doesn't everyone engage with Alex Jones or Owens to answer their questions.

Because nobody wants to engage with the stupid, that's why. The moment you take a flat earther seriously, you've become the village idiot yourself. So that's why.
The masses want deranged entertainment, kinda like a meth addict scratching his neck for more drugs.
They want fantasies so they listen to these lunatic like zombies ... but the rest know not to engage in a debate with a village idiot.

Theosis (unifying one's soul with God, a process of deification) is far worse than any belief in a flat earth, so you should hardly be one to talk about idiocy.

 

[Eli1]

Theosis (unifying one's soul with God, a process of deification) is far worse than any belief in a flat earth, so you should hardly be one to talk about idiocy.

What's on your menu today Canadian? Your usual 3-course meal?
Stage 4 TDS
Hate USA
Hate Israel

Then finish off with some Alex Jones coffee?

 

[shittim]

apparently znp thinks he's an expert on ballistics and biology.

dunning Kruger personified

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o5dnke831uo

 

[HeIsHere]

What's on your menu today Canadian? Your usual 3-course meal?
Stage 4 TDS
Hate USA
Hate Israel

Then finish off with some Alex Jones coffee?

LOL says the one who cannot defend his soteriology.


Too funny, and to top it off all you say about me are lies, does that fit in with your self saving and process of deification doctrine?

 

[Eli1]

LOL says the one who cannot defend his soteriology,


Too funny and to top it off all you say about me are lies, does that fit in with your self saving doctrine?

Are you even able to drive in traffic when it says 'One way' or 'Do not enter' or you don't comprehend those signs either?

 

[HeIsHere]

Are you even able to drive in traffic when it says 'One way' or 'Do not enter' or you don't comprehend those signs either?

Still waiting for that defense.. actually not really, obvious you are hiding it.

 

[Eli1]

Still waiting for that defense.. actually not really

Yeah, like i said, your games don't work on me
You're a broken record.