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Everything @Cameron143 has trotted out in the last couple of pages is utter nonsense, a product of vast (if not total) ignorance.
Its amazing to behold really. Much of it mindless irrational incoherent rambling bafflegab.

Same goes for the rest of the Calvinists. Immense Biblical illiteracy on display.....:)

Perhaps back in the day when people had less access to information one could understand the ignorance,

but in this day and age, I think those on this thread peddling these false tenets of "Reformed/Augustine/TULIP/Calvinism are really

without excuse and should be held very accountable for diminishing the Good News and the character of God.
 
Well this is the incorrect order once again.
Here is the correct order, which you and your God-blaspheming ilk will never get right
as long as you deny election, which you despise along with God's sovereignty:

Those God foreknew, He also predestined, and those He predestined, He also
called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified.


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Isaiah 55 v 10-11 Just as rain and snow fall from heaven and do not return without watering the earth, making it bud and sprout, and providing seed to sow and food to eat, so My word that proceeds from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please, and it will prosper where I send it.
 
Lol. The "times of the gentiles" ultimately and prophetically pertains to.....the Jews.
Your impenetrable ignorance is truly astounding.....;)

Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
why is there a history Of God sending nations against Israel. ?

It's because the house of Israel is his promised seed m

Wakey wakey m
 
All Jews who are "children of promise" are under the New Covenant which inaugurates the fulfillment of the promised blessings to the nations under the Abrahamic Covenant.
not for him m be believes God still allows people to be under the Abrahamic covenant, ask him
 
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. —1 John 2:1-2

But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. —Hebrews 2:9


But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. —2 Peter 2:1

The Lord Jesus Christ died for ALL.

False prophets will teach that He did not die for all.......They deny the master of His rightful Glory by hindering/ hiding His Gospel from the lost.

Which proves nothing since you must prove that "the whole world" = each and every person w/o exception -- which the very context of of 1Jn refutes your distributive sense theory.

Also, 2Pet 2:1 is saying that false JEWISH prophets deny the "Master who bought them", which means they deny the Jews' redemption (and their own by extension) from Egypt. The ancient ethnic Jews were redeemed (bought) from Egypt. IOW, these false prophets have forgotten and/or forsaken their heritage! They have forgotten from whence they come and who redeemed them many centuries ago.
 
I also love this song about God m ♥️



fyi ... that song is not about God. Sting was going through some emotional turmoil when he wrote the lyrics to the song.


here's a song you might enjoy ...

stripped down version ...



radio version ...



imo ... "whisper and the wind" is much better than (as NightTwister calls it) "the Stalker song" ... and I agree with NightTwister ... that song is kinda twisted.

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As usual, you get everything backwards. The times of the Jews have been fulfilled. We're currently in the "times of the gentiles", since the Abrahamic Covenant promise that pertains to the Gentiles is being fulfilled now during this New Covenant dispensation.
Luk 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
 
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The Church was a like hidden secret weapon, that God launched on the enemies of God after the Cross took place.
yep ...

Ephesians 3:9-12

9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.


this is what 1 Cor 2:14 is referring to ... not the gospel as some surmise ... just sayin'

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Perhaps back in the day when people had less access to information one could understand the ignorance,

but in this day and age, I think those on this thread peddling these false tenets of "Reformed/Augustine/TULIP/Calvinism are really

without excuse and should be held very accountable for diminishing the Good News and the character of God.
Accountability is God's domain; love is the domain given to us. Stay in your lane, not God's.
 
Which proves nothing since you must prove that "the whole world" = each and every person w/o exception -- which the very context of of 1Jn refutes your distributive sense theory.

Also, 2Pet 2:1 is saying that false JEWISH prophets deny the "Master who bought them", which means they deny the Jews' redemption (and their own by extension) from Egypt. The ancient ethnic Jews were redeemed (bought) from Egypt. IOW, these false prophets have forgotten and/or forsaken their heritage! They have forgotten from whence they come and who redeemed them many centuries ago.
Oh, so now it IS about the Jews and Israel.

The lengths people will go to "shield" their pet doctrines is absolutely astounding.
 
fyi ... that song is not about God. Sting was going through some emotional turmoil when he wrote the lyrics to the song.


here's a song you might enjoy ...

stripped down version ...



radio version ...



imo ... "whisper and the wind" is much better than (as NightTwister calls it) "the Stalker song" ... and I agree with NightTwister ... that song is kinda twisted.

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well thanks but for me it is a song about God because he's a Christian and in interview he said his lyrics where inspired by God

But the fact that you once again take my believe away is testimony to your ways m
 
All Jews who are "children of promise" are under the New Covenant which inaugurates the fulfillment of the promised blessings to the nations under the Abrahamic Covenant.
the only Jews "who are "children of the promise" under the New Covenant" are the Messianic Jews ... Jews who are born again ...

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God

Jews – children of Israel who are not born again
gentiles – non Jews who are not born again
church of God – Jews and gentiles who are born again

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no one is born unable to respond positively to the Good News >>>> NOT in scripture.
The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth. This is explicitly articulated in Scripture.

The natural man belongs to the world and can neither receive nor comprehend the spiritual things of God. In order for him to comprehend the spiritual things of God he needs the Holy Spirit of God, and until he is indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God he is controlled by his flesh (within which dwells nothing good) which serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death. Without the indwelling Holy Spirit of God he is unable to submit to or obey God. All these things are explicitly articulated in Scripture, but you refuse to acknowledge them, claim they don't exist, pretend they don't mean what they actually say, rewrite them, contradict, and outright deny them. You do this again and again and again and again. Repeatedly you deny what is explicitly articulated in Scripture, and your preference is to blaspheme God rather than ever admit you are wrong even when it is glaringly obvious.

Unregenerated, man is blinded to truth, captive to the will of the devil, opposed to the spiritual things of God, hostile in his mind toward God, and has an incurably wicked heart which is enslaved to sin. He is a lover of darkness, refusing to come into the light. Are these things explicitly articulated in Scripture? Why yes, yes they are, over and over again, in a number of ways, these truths are repeatedly explicitly articulated in Scripture, but you repeatedly deny them, claim they don't mean what they say, tell us they are taken out of context etc etc because you hate the Truth of God's revealed written Word. You keep telling us man has everything he needs but this is nowhere found in Scripture because it is just another one of your many falsehoods. Left to his own devices, man would not even seek for God.

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from Revelation 3 verse 17-18 ~ You say, ‘I need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.
 
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Do you object to God choosing to make Israel into a nation and to be His people while not doing so for every other nation? Or does this sicken you too?

This is kind of a crappy comparison in my opinion because God when he picked isreal didnt condemn every other human on earth to die and burn in hell.
 
Oh, so now it IS about the Jews and Israel.

The lengths people will go to "shield" their pet doctrines is absolutely astounding.

Yeah, it's about the false prophets forgetting their heritage -- forgetting that God REDEEMED ancient Israel from their bondage in Egypt -- and by extension all their ancestors down through the centuries. To "redeem", by the way means to buy back.
 
well thanks but for me it is a song about God because he's a Christian and in interview he said his lyrics where inspired by God

But the fact that you once again take my believe away is testimony to your ways m
and for your Fyi

This is another song he wrote about people saying he has lost his faith in the holy church


Just like you have. But do you know why, well it's because you'll only listen to the bad things said about him
He once said on comic relief charity red nose day his lyrics where inspired by God

Like this song take note of the third sentence where he says people say I have lost my faith in the holy church.

Well he hasn't