What about the homosexuals ?

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Carlyw said:
I kindly ask for you to consider these scripture/s,

1Corinthians 5:11
1Corinthians 6:9-11
1Corinthians 6:16-20

As someone who is a Christian, sins actively against God whether or nor their conscious permits them to act in homosexuality. This is a very bad sin, one we are told to repent of, much like all sin. Sexual sin of all kinds however, do worse to the body. They are highlighted in a way, as worse sins.

I can say confidently that we are asked to not fellowship with certain Christians who regularly display a lack of repentance in certain ways.

And if I may add, I think that its okay to highlight the sins in others lives, who are Christian. I believe it would be the loving thing to do, if done kindly with humility amd gentleness. God calls us to live a life of repentance, and its disobedient to choose to live a life of Sin

Now we all sin, yes. But we should all make a effort to please God as well, repenting, trying to lean on God for progression, and trying to to live holy lives for our God.

If we do not desire to, it shows a lack of understanding, or faith. Which can be for concern.

I humbly ask that you consider these things, and if I am wrong, please correct me:)
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Sin was designated "sin" because it causes damage to the practitioner and those around him. To reduce damage it is good to advocate for the cessation of all sin.

Insisting on it, for people who see no reason to not do it, that goes too far. It is like teaching a cat to sing - it does no good and it annoys the cat.

Singling out that one sin, that was done by society at large. People used to have much fun hating on it. While it is not good to condone sin, neither was it beneficial to throw so much hate at it. Now the pendulum has swung too far the other way, which is also unfortunate.
 
Lynx said:
Sin was designated "sin" because it causes damage to the practitioner and those around him. To reduce damage it is good to advocate for the cessation of all sin.

Insisting on it, for people who see no reason to not do it, that goes too far. It is like teaching a cat to sing - it does no good and it annoys the cat.

Singling out that one sin, that was done by society at large. People used to have much fun hating on it. While it is not good to condone sin, neither was it beneficial to throw so much hate at it. Now the pendulum has swung too far the other way, which is also unfortunate.
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I do agree with you on some level:) I however see the benefits of correcting our brothers and sisters in Christ, gently. Just as if i was in a adulterous relationship, I would hope to God that somebody would have the nerves to correct me.

Not only that, the scripture from which I referenced was exactly what youre describing, though im sure youre aware of that. Many members of the Church were approving of sexual immorality, and Paul had to correct them. Ideally they would take the rebuke, though im sure some didnt.

Now for those who arent Christian, they will do what they want. I still think theres a place for evangelism, and Ray comfort has shown promising results in his attempts to bring others to Christ through the 10 comandments and sin preaching, though I myself would not evangelize like that. Its a lot of law, with a small smidgen of gosple at the end. Im a bit too gentle for it I guess.

The only thing I was trying to emphasize, and im sorry for not being more clear in my original message, was that we shouldn't let sin go unspoken within the body of Christ:)

Sexual sin is very bad, I would argue that its more harmful to my husband if I cheated on him than let's say if I stole a peach from the store. Though thats only with human reasoning, and examples vary. I would like to argue that the Bible singles out sexual sin as more harmful as well. I believe I already quoted that scripture.

Thanks for your response and reasoning, I do agree with you for the most part:)
 
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Carlyw said:
I do agree with you on some level:) I however see the benefits of correcting our brothers and sisters in Christ, gently. Just as if i was in a adulterous relationship, I would hope to God that somebody would have the nerves to correct me.

Not only that, the scripture from which I referenced was exactly what youre describing, though im sure youre aware of that. Many members of the Church were approving of sexual immorality, and Paul had to correct them. Ideally they would take the rebuke, though im sure some didnt.

Now for those who arent Christian, they will do what they want. I still think theres a place for evangelism, and Ray comfort has shown promising results in his attempts to bring others to Christ through the 10 comandments and sin preaching, though I myself would not evangelize like that. Its a lot of law, with a small smidgen of gosple at the end. Im a bit too gentle for it I guess.

The only thing I was trying to emphasize, and im sorry for not being more clear in my original message, was that we shouldn't let sin go unspoken within the body of Christ:)

Sexual sin is very bad, I would argue that its more harmful to my husband if I cheated on him than let's say if I stole a peach from the store. Though thats only with human reasoning, and examples vary. I would like to argue that the Bible singles out sexual sin as more harmful as well. I believe I already quoted that scripture.

Thanks for your response and reasoning, I do agree with you for the most part:)
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ERROR: I intended to quote sockfeet, not you. Sorry about that.
 
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DamagedSoul said:
I explained my thoughts on this in my post. Gay is not an act, its a desire that can lead to sin if its not reflected upon and therefore avoided. Being a gay Christian means fighting your whole life against the bodily inclination to sin.
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There's no such thing as a gay Christian. A person who is homosexual that comes to the Christian Lord Jesus can not continue to identify as a homosexual. Scripture is very clear and says there is sexual sin even before the act so if a man even thinks about a woman in lust he is guilty of adultery (Matthew 5:28) in his heart. And if such people are trying to identify as gay and christian they can not because as christians, the word of God says we must not even imagine sin and when a sexually immoral thought enters our mind, that we must take that thought captive to the obedience of Christ.

2 Corinthians 10:5
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;.../KJV

So they can't be sitting around thinking about it but refraining the deed so feel safe about it because it don't work that way. If there be those people, they are not Christian and not saved. They have to repent. They can not continue in a lifestyle of sexual immorality, and it isn't like they were born like that Lol! Like God don't know how to make men and women! That's all part of the lie Brother.

Do the homosexuals want to survive? Have you ever heard of a spirit of Lust? How about a spirit of sexual immorality? If a homosexual truly wants to survive they have one choice, the Lord God. But don't take my word for it because it is for eternity. We all must crack that bible open and read it, and as we read it it reads us.

We will all stand before the Lord one day and what happens if he asks us, did you read my book to you? Then it would be embarrassing to be calling myself a Christian and have to say no to Him! So I read it once a year now at (avg.) 3 Chapters minimum per day gives me plenty to time to finish it by New Years. I'm on my 6-8th reading now? IDK, I lost count. All I know is Scripture is very clear about sexual immorality because...I really read the word of God. (It gets easier)
 
Lynx said:
Sin was designated "sin" because it causes damage to the practitioner and those around him. To reduce damage it is good to advocate for the cessation of all sin.

Insisting on it, for people who see no reason to not do it, that goes too far. It is like teaching a cat to sing - it does no good and it annoys the cat.

Singling out that one sin, that was done by society at large. People used to have much fun hating on it. While it is not good to condone sin, neither was it beneficial to throw so much hate at it. Now the pendulum has swung too far the other way, which is also unfortunate.
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I fully agree with you.
 
sockfeet77 said:
The Biblical teachings on homosexuality apply only to those of us who accept the Bible. It's no more acceptable in a free country for Christians to consider them binding on unbelievers than for Muslims to consider prohibitions on pork or gambling binding on Christians.

There are many things that converted Christians must abjure in order to walk with the Lord in good conscience. For some of those people it may be homosexual desires, or it may be illicit heterosexual desires. That's a matter of individual conscience and I don't give free advice on other people's lives until I'm directly asked.

As far as the questions: the people of the state or the country make decisions on what is allowed, not only Christians. I see no reason why homosexuals cannot marry and raised children. As far as it being bad for children--well, if you think it is a sin, you can make a case that it is bad for them. But we'll have our hands full if we decide that no gluttons, jealous people, smokers, drinkers or practitioners of some other sin can raise children. There is no basis for singling that one out.
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By the way, howdy and welcome to the forum.
 
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