Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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Debating this point is like debating the colour of the sky.

Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


Taken out of context. But I have heard what Candice has to say and she is extremely hateful. I don't know what rabbit hole she has gone down but she needs to give her heart to God and be saved.
 
[QUOTE="Charlesiii, post: 5600583, member: 343

This statement shows me you haven't taken the time to watch her podcasts.


They aren't worth a watch.[/QUOTE]
That is fine, I also haven't watched her shows, but since I haven't watched them I also don't comment on them. This comment was made to someone who said she is not refuting with facts and hard evidence. It is deceitful that someone would make that claim if they had not watched the show.
 
They aren't worth a watch.
That is fine, I also haven't watched her shows, but since I haven't watched them I also don't comment on them. This comment was made to someone who said she is not refuting with facts and hard evidence. It is deceitful that someone would make that claim if they had not watched the show.[/QUOTE]

You do not have to watch her shows. The facts of Owens are all over the internet. However, if you do watch a show, you start to wonder what is wrong with her. I know I did.
 
You do not have to watch her shows. The facts of Owens are all over the internet. However, if you do watch a show, you start to wonder what is wrong with her. I know I did.

I have come to the same conclusion which is why I don't watch her shows, but I also don't make claims about shows I haven't watched.
 
They aren't worth a watch.
That is fine, I also haven't watched her shows, but since I haven't watched them I also don't comment on them. This comment was made to someone who said she is not refuting with facts and hard evidence. It is deceitful that someone would make that claim if they had not watched the show.[/QUOTE]

Well, I've heard enough of what she has recently said on several subjects and if I were a friend of hers I'd be getting help for her. She's fallen so far down the rabbit hole she may never get back.
 
Well, I've heard enough of what she has recently said on several subjects and if I were a friend of hers I'd be getting help for her. She's fallen so far down the rabbit hole she may never get back.

Well I have seen a number of stories about people who were considered crazy conspiracy theorists who went off the deep end only to later be proven correct and I have also seen many of deep state attempts to sow confusion and doubt by spreading wild stories loosely based on facts to realize I am not in a position to determine what is going on with her. She could be a mouthpiece for the deep state, or she could have seen something that has caused her to become unhinged. Whatever it is, I'll let the Lord deal with it.

If I were to make an educated guess I would say that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was more horrifying if you know the whole story than if you don't. Just an educated guess. It is possible she is horrified because she knows more of the story or it could be the DS is trying to paint anyone who questions the official narrative as looney tunes.
 
I'm having trouble finding outcry about Paul Pelosi being beaten almost to death with a hammer, and thousands of people losing their jobs for simply expressing their opinions of it, can someone help?


We already hashed this one out. You missed it apparently. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
 
Well I have seen a number of stories about people who were considered crazy conspiracy theorists who went off the deep end only to later be proven correct and I have also seen many of deep state attempts to sow confusion and doubt by spreading wild stories loosely based on facts to realize I am not in a position to determine what is going on with her. She could be a mouthpiece for the deep state, or she could have seen something that has caused her to become unhinged. Whatever it is, I'll let the Lord deal with it.

If I were to make an educated guess I would say that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was more horrifying if you know the whole story than if you don't. Just an educated guess. It is possible she is horrified because she knows more of the story or it could be the DS is trying to paint anyone who questions the official narrative as looney tunes.


It'll come out in the trial. She's made all kinds of accusations against people and been proved wrong. She has a real hate for anyone who isn't Catholic all of a sudden. She's off the reservation, so to speak. Just very strange.
 
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This is a logically weak argument, unless you believe in a limited God - i.e. a god who was not strong enough to stop the bullet from killing Charlie Kirk, but strong enough to miraculously stop the bullet from going through the other side of his neck? Just a laughable excuse by those preying on the emotions and faith of Christians to prevent this evil deed from being properly investigated. Perhaps the god of those who killed Charlie is limited in his abilities, but not the true God.

Imagine if police took this attitude with all murder investigations. "Well, we can't explain how the victim was murdered with the weapon we can't link to the scene, but we believe the unlinked weapon must have been the murder weapon, so once again, another act of God". Just a stupid argument for anyone who isn't superstitious.
You're the example of why it is never good to allow skeptics,unbelievers,into a Christian community.

This statement shows me you haven't taken the time to watch her podcasts.
No it doesn't.

Now you're posting garbage here. When before under all those different Charlie names meant to insult Mr.Kirk you were merely using laughing likes in the obituary threads dedicated to his loss.
Pathetic.
 
You're the example of why it is never good to allow skeptics,unbelievers,into a Christian community.
What hypocrisy to claim Charlie Kirk was a saint on one hand and on the other to be saying that unbelievers and skeptics should not be allowed to ask questions on a Christian forum.

Jesus Christ is the door, He is the one that lets people in and out of the sheepfold.

7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Jesus Christ is the one that we need to enter in by. Doll is not the door and Doll doesn't get to decide who shall be saved and who shall go in and out. That is for Jesus Christ alone to decide.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

The Lord does not want us taken out of the world or to cut ourselves off from skeptics or unbelievers. On the contrary His prayer is not that we would be taken out of the world but that we would not be of the world. We are to be a testimony of Jesus, a light shining in an evil and adulterous age. The truth is not afraid of skeptics or unbelievers, on the contrast it is the darkness that is afraid of the light. Charlie Kirk was an excellent example of one who was not afraid of skeptics and unbelievers, on the contrary he let them speak and made it easy for them to ask their questions.

What hypocrisy to claim Charlie Kirk was a saint on one hand and on the other to be saying that unbelievers and skeptics should not be allowed to ask questions on a Christian forum.
 
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Has anyone else noticed that you've never even heard of this guy before the fake-church propaganda machine said worship him or else ?
I used to see memes about him every now and then on Facebook but I never really paid any attention to him
 
I used to see memes about him every now and then on Facebook but I never really paid any attention to him
Watch his memorial service and it becomes very clear all the politicians knew about him.

It is very scary when the most powerful people in the world decorate the tomb of a martyr, and demand you worship him and if you question the official narrative you are labeled as an evil heretic.
 
Has anyone else noticed that you've never even heard of this guy before the fake-church propaganda machine said worship him or else ?


Knock it off. No one said anyone had to worship Kirk. My Lord, get a grip!! If people did a march against Kennedy, JFK, and laughingly pointed a gun and mimicked his head exploding, would you consider that a normal person???

"Hope the bullet's OK after hitting Kirk", "Thoughts and prayers you Nazi bi#ch", A South Dakota faculty member has been suspended for posting "I don't give a flying f--k about this Kirk person. Apparently he was a hate-spreading Nazi.. "I'll praise the shooter; he had good aim". Just a few of the comments made about Kirk. How would YOU feel if that was your child? Do they have a right to say it, yep. But their boss also has the right to fire them. And they don't even have to ask HeIsHere's thoughts and opinions on it.
 
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Watch his memorial service and it becomes very clear all the politicians knew about him.

It is very scary when the most powerful people in the world decorate the tomb of a martyr, and demand you worship him and if you question the official narrative you are labeled as an evil heretic.


No one demanded worship of Kirk. Actually, Kirk didn't even start the idea, a man named Steven Crowder did. The whole "change my mind" was his idea. He also has two children, he is 38 yrs old. People would feel the exact same way if they saw him murdered in cold blood in front of a college crowd he was speaking to. You could literally change the men and it would be the exact same story except for the fact he is divorced. But he said his ex-wife asked him not to go back to doing colleges but he felt that responsibility more than anyone else because he started it in the first place. He indeed is back on the road with high security and a bullet proof vest.
 
No one demanded worship of Kirk. Actually, Kirk didn't even start the idea, a man named Steven Crowder did. The whole "change my mind" was his idea. He also has two children, he is 38 yrs old. People would feel the exact same way if they saw him murdered in cold blood in front of a college crowd he was speaking to. You could literally change the men and it would be the exact same story except for the fact he is divorced. But he said his ex-wife asked him not to go back to doing colleges but he felt that responsibility more than anyone else because he started it in the first place. He indeed is back on the road with high security and a bullet proof vest.

It is interesting to note that some of the worst opposition comes from those naming the name of Christ. I was not a follower of Kirk and really do not follow anyone but Jesus but I have had plenty of good and thorough biblical teaching. One of the main problems in our churches today, is that a proper foundation in scripture is not taught. People jump all over the place, twist scripture, take things out of context and do not think to examine themselves. Instead they look for someone to blame for just about anything they think could be improved.

And of course people are fickle. One day they love you and the next they desire to harm or even kill you. That includes Christians and I do know what I am talking about.

As for ZNP, he is the king of the news forum and the drip drip drip of his constant obsession with conspiracy theories does not belong in this forum but he posts them here because of the attention he will get. I know about Steven Crowder though and how his wife did not want him going back to colleges.

The left has been running this country for many years no matter who was in the White House. They have had the schools, healthcare and in a good number of cases, the church also. We are in a spiritual battle and it cannot be stressed enough that is actually the case.
 
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