Does the Bible teach misogyny?

[lrs68]

Happy to hear!! Praise Him!!
So do you think today’s Jew is similar in mindset to the nation of Jews back in Abraham’s time?

I think some believe they are but they're as stubborn as the Jews we read in the Bible.

 

[TruthDefender]

I think some believe they are but they're as stubborn as the Jews we read in the Bible.

Yep, agree, per Jesus and John the Baptist’s comments.

 

[JacobGilbert]

Jacob, good posts. I'll add some comments from the modern, feminist influenced NRSV Updated Edition.

My confidence is in the Apostle Paul’s Holy Spirit inspired interpretation of Gen. 3:16-17 –

The NRSV Updated Edition, 2021, is about as woman friendly as you can get.

Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. (1Ti 2:11-14, NRSVue)

The church is in real trouble when people decide they know more about what the OT means than the Spirit inspired NT writers! Man speaks with the authority of sinful humanism; the NT has the authority of the Holy Spirit.

Women should be silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak but should be subordinate, as the law also says. If there is something they want to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only ones it has reached? Anyone who claims to be a prophet or spiritual must acknowledge that what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord.
(1Co 14:34-37, NRSVue)

You know John, sometimes I think about how God, in His wisdom, set order and authority in place for our good. When Eve was judged in the garden, part of her judgment was the struggle with submission (Genesis 3:16). In the same way, Adam was judged with the struggle of working the ground by the sweat of his brow (Genesis 3:17–19). Both men and women carry their own burdens that teach us humility and dependence on Christ.

Women often wrestle with the call to submit to their husbands, and men often wrestle with the temptation to put their wives’ desires above God’s will just to keep peace. But Scripture reminds us that Christ is the true head (1 Corinthians 11:3), and we are all under authority men and women alike. Submission is not about inferiority, but about reflecting the order God has given, so that in all things, our hearts are directed back to Jesus, who submitted Himself to the Father for our salvation (Philippians 2:5–8).

 

[Doll]

If it read, 5,000 cattle were fed, we'd assume that cows were included with the bulls in the feeding of that specific species. What did they call a herd of people in biblical times?

A flock of Sheep.

 

[TruthDefender]

A flock of Sheep.

“Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly;”
‭‭I Peter‬ ‭5‬:‭2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20‬:‭29‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[Gideon300]

I'll do this later I have to get my pork shoulder started now or else we will be eating dinner at 1 am lol

My mouth is watering...........

 

[Mem]

Ok do you go with this choice a if you do go with choice a he loathed isms i would say the Quakerhood is on the right path

I suppose that people like to use "ism" because it sounds smarter than "-ish."

 

[Mem]

Women and children were much like the Muslim beliefs of today, a man's personal property.

Whenever a number of men are given it never includes property. That is assumed knowledge.

My rabbi (who does realize that I'm Christian) teaches that God directed Noah to exiting the ark as God intended, but he didn't listen very well and so failed to (re)set the order right. It would have been interesting to see that, if Noah had understood God's directions, and followed them to the t, how different things might be now. But that's water under the bridge now, and it'll take nothing less than a deluge of fire this time.

 

[Jordon]

I suppose that people like to use "ism" because it sounds smarter than "-ish."

maybe some do friend but maybe there's more like that here than I realise

 

[Mem]

maybe some do friend but maybe there's more like that here than I realise

What worries do we have as long as He calls us "Mine"? Everyone does what they seem is right, one side believes that the other disrespects God, but God weighs the heart. This is why you won't often see me ever say, "I know this is right" very comfortably but rather, "This is what I think is right."

 

[Jordon]

What worries do we have as long as He calls us "Mine"? Everyone does what they seem is right, one side believes that the other disrespects God, but God weighs the heart. This is why you won't often see me ever say, "I know this is right" very comfortably but rather, "This is what I think is right."

well as long as your happy in your beliefs that the main thing for me .
But I wonder how you can ever get by with just thinking something is right can you truly be happy with that

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I should have been more humble. So I'm sorry, ok?

If I said anything to you that just cant be true then you can be sure that I was speaking in humor. I had no way of knowing that your husband is ill. I'm sure sorry to hear that and I can pray for him.

I would greatly appreciate your prayers. Let's shake hands and start again. Sorry is accepted and if I hit too hard below the belt, I apologize. We're good in my view.

 

[Mem]

well as long as your happy in your beliefs that the main thing for me .
But I wonder how you can ever get by with just thinking something is right can you truly be happy with that

I'd only know that I'm not right if I thought I could never be wrong. And anyone that would discourage freethinkers, as if no one could ever reach any right conclusions, instantly places themselves on my suspect list.

 

[Jordon]

I'd only know that I'm not right if I thought I could never be wrong. And anyone that would discourage freethinkers, as if no one could ever reach any right conclusions, instantly places themselves on my suspect list.

yeah you know when your right about some things, and when something feels right, I guess tho you could be wrong to take action about some things , as you what you believe is right could be wrong.

But then your never always going to word your language, on the bases of you may not be right all the time are you

 

[Mem]

yeah you know when your right about some things, and when something feels right, I guess tho you could be wrong to take action about some things , as you what you believe is right could be wrong.

But then your never always going to word your language, on the bases of you may not be right all the time are you

Isn't that the, what's the word? risk? in the allowance of free thinking, though?

 

[Jordon]

Isn't that the, what's the word? risk? in the allowance of free thinking, though?

Isn't that the, what's the word? risk? in the allowance of free thinking, though?

well I don't know if you call it risk, its more a case of you forget to be careful or maybe or you get fed up of with walking on egg shells

 

[Mem]

well I don't know if you call it risk, its more a case of you forget to be careful or maybe or you get fed up of with walking on egg shells

If God saw fit to allow free thinking in the first place, to His own hurt even, then how are you or I to be any less accommodating of it? Even God, who provided perfectly good, valid, and sound reason not to think that the fruit was good for food, gave allowance to think otherwise.

 

[Jordon]

If God saw fit to allow free thinking in the first place, to His own hurt even, then how are you or I to be any less accommodating of it? Even God, who provided perfectly good, valid, and sound reason not to think that the fruit was good for food, gave allowance to think otherwise.

If God saw fit,

Well it's Diffacult to have a discussion based on a if, but yeah on that note I can always keep that in mind for sure.

Free thinking well isn't that just a thought.

So can something appealing give you a thought that you either can resist or you can't ?

 

[Mem]

If God saw fit,

Well it's Diffacult to have a discussion based on a if, but yeah on that note I can always keep that in mind for sure.

Free thinking well isn't that just a thought.

So can something appealing give you a thought that you either can resist or you can't ?

That'd depend on whether you believed in the reason to resist it.

 

[Jordon]

That'd depend on whether you believed in the reason to resist it.

I suppose it does yes, but can you know that is right, and not think it's right