The Gun Thread
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Have you ever seen a Charger 22 pistol? It's a 10/22 except scaled down, 10" barrel and no shoulder stock. But I bought a folding pistol brace for it and it makes it handle and function like a compact 10/22.
Like this:
Yes, I have seen one.
Have you ever seen a peep (aperture) sight on a pistol ? I'm not talking about some kind of ghost-ring sight, but a true aperture sight?
That's why I said that a regular open sight would work well, but an aperture likely would not.
I suppose if you want to turn a pistol into some sort of quasi legal short rifle, an aperture would work. I was talking about the Charger used as it was intended, as a pistol, held at arms length to shoot.
That looks like it would be a nice truck gun.... short and handy.
That looks like it would be a nice truck gun.... short and handy.
It has removable apertures so all I have to do to get a ghost ring is take the aperture out! That is, if I can find a way to get a front sight on it.
I never have seen a peep sight on a pistol pretty sure. But I have peep sights on my full size 10/22 and they work great. Peeps on a short rifle should work too. I don't shoot that thing like a pistol, I shoulder it. It might not be as accurate as a full size one, but how accurate does it need to be? It seems like a 50 yard rifle with a stock on it.
There's nothing quasi illegal about it. The ATF was throwing a hissy fit about them at first, but Trump smoothed all that out and they backed out of saying a pistol brace reclassifies the weapon somehow. They are legal and you can even shoot it from the shoulder!
I never did shoot it as a pistol. It's too big and weird for that. If I wanted a pistol that size I would have bought one of the wood ones when they first came out. I don't even use the bipod! It was missing a piece to the bipod when I bought it and they couldn't send me the missing part, so they sent me a whole ne bipod, lol. Need a bipod? Lol. Two bipods.
"Cap'nball" site had this pic of an apeture he drilled in a rear sight of an 1861 Springfield. Said it was a help. If the south had done this would we all be whistling Dixie?
They seem to drift in and out of approval with the BATFE. Currently, I think they are ok, but they seem to change with the seasons.
Agreed.... when Ruger came out with them, I just shook my head.
I also find it a little difficult to believe that Ruger sort of intended for them to be made into SBR's.... Ruger has a history of almost ultra-conservative views on firearms.... which is ok, it keeps them out of court cases, I imagine. I think they just thought that folks would LIKE a clumsy, unbalanced "handgun" based on the 10/22.... which was strange, to me.
A quick goober search found this.... I'm sure there are a bunch of other options for a clamp-on type of sight.... The sight base is $40, and the inserts are about $20 each... different heights and colors, fiber optic.
https://wilandusa.com/sol-front-sight-base-for-920-
Good thing the aftermarket stuff caught up with the pistol! It makes the design useful now.
Who knows what stupidness the ATF has in their thinking about a brace on this gun. I mean, it's not exactly a Battle Rifle now is it?! So, Lol. Actually it was Trump and the Supreme court. The Supreme court said, ATF, you are stupid and you can't do that. The thing that sucked about it is it had driven up the price of the folding brace to 250 bucks! Outrageous but I bought it anyway because, well because I can and this is America. Shall not be infringed means pistol braces too. I don't even think about if they can say I'm some sort of criminal, they can not, period. I don't need their permission. If they ever show up wanting my pistol brace, it wont be the Charger I reach for that's for sure!
I could only find one before. A clamp on piece of junk looking thing looked like an AK sight and plastic mostly, blah. That one you linked to is interesting, but...I don't have a .920 barrel, I have the standard skinny one and therein is the problem! I have a red dot on it for now and perhaps I could swing for a .920 barrel in the future. It wouldn't have to be clamp on at that point. A .920 barrel has plenty of meat to drill & tap it for a screwed down front sight. Nobody wants to try it on a skinny barrel, not even Ruger!
That's what I wanted in a front sight too, fiber optic! I really like the Skinner Express rear peep sight that I put on my full size 10/22. You should check them out for yourself! Wide range of aperture sizes, looks good, works good...
I didn't know they were considered "fragile".... but if the firing pin isn't broken, I'm not real sure what it could be.... when you dry fire it, does it make the loud click that indicates the sear has released?
Gotta love that 45/70! Mine's an original Marlin Guide Gun, with a Happy trigger kit in it! Oh it is such a sweet trigger. I put a peep sight on it too, and a Blackhawk ammo carrier w/cheek pad. I bought that mostly for extra ammo on the gun, but I love that thing because no more hamburger cheek after a range day!
You still have some sort of 45/70 don't you? Do you reload for it? I reload for it and cast a few different kinds of lead bullets for it too.
I don't have a 45-70 presently. I had a Marlin 1895 SS version for quite a while... it was very nice to shoot. I cast the Lee 405g (I think) hollow base bullet. Mine would group just over an inch or so at 100yd with a scope. I finally sold it, just before the "JM" mania hit. I think I sold it for about $400 or so.
After a few years, I sort of missed the cigar sized cartridge, so I got the Henry.
The recoil was so bad with it, that it literally made my eyes water. I had loaded up 20 moderate loads, and actually had to put sandbags between it and my shoulder to finish those off. I sold it shortly thereafter.
I don't "love" recoil, but it doesn't usually bother me too badly.... I had a Ruger 77 in .338 Win Mag for a while, and I could shoot 10-15 rounds of it before having enough... that Henry had me hollerin "uncle" from the get-go...
After a few years, I sort of missed the cigar sized cartridge, so I got the Henry.
The recoil was so bad with it, that it literally made my eyes water. I had loaded up 20 moderate loads, and actually had to put sandbags between it and my shoulder to finish those off. I sold it shortly thereafter.
I don't "love" recoil, but it doesn't usually bother me too badly.... I had a Ruger 77 in .338 Win Mag for a while, and I could shoot 10-15 rounds of it before having enough... that Henry had me hollerin "uncle" from the get-go...
All of that seems to be fine, so it is sort of the firing pin doesn’t reach the shell’s primer. This doesn’t happen every time, but it happens. I can’t figure it out either so I guess I have to go see a gunsmith.
I never heard of that happening to a Winchester. I used to own a Win 1200 but never a 1300 and from the way it sounds, I would replace the firing pin and the firing pin spring, OEM.
If it continues after replacing the firing pin & spring, I would start taking a closer look at what ammo you use and what was in the gun when it did happen.
If you are "handy", you could take the bolt out and see if the firing pin appears to be all in one piece.... depending on how well it's been cleaned/oiled, etc, there could be some gunk in the channel that the firing pin rides in... if the oil sort of congeals in there, it could slow down or even stop the firing pin from going forward enough to protrude through the face of the bolt.... hence no dimple in the primer.
A good deep cleaning, perhaps even an ultrasonic bath might solve the problem... if the firing pin is broken or worn down, replacement should fix it.