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What rubbish. Tell me what other nation is attempting to build a third temple. If it is secular, why is Jerusalem considered so sacred? And if it is secular, why do the nations rage against Israel? 8 million non-Arabs surrounded by 400 plus million non Jews. Yet Israel survives against overwhelming odds.

Do you not know that the bloodline of Jesus includes non Jews? That the wife of Moses was a Midianite? It seems almighty God is far less picky than you are.
All this means nothing. Jesus has built a Temple for God and its Spiritual and Gods rest forever Zech 7 12

And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

Its Jesus Church/Body off believers that is Gods Temple and He doesnt play about it 1 Cor 3:

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

So all that temple stuff you talking about isnt from the Spirit of God
 


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Once again thank you for the video. I agree with her - truth of the Bible and not ignoring parts of it and not twisting its meaning will protect a Christian from being deceived!


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This debate is getting a little old right now. I have a idea let's talk about that great nation in the west you know that Christian nation America. So called the united states.
Don't look united to me from what I see. Christian? That's really questionable. Why they've adopted pagan holidays and observance.
They have racial radicals and churches that promote gay marriage. They even burn their own flag. There churches are closing monthly by the dozens. They teach Marxism, and communism in there learning institutions. Have you heard about their abortion rate? Un real.
No respect for there president. Took prayer out of the schools in fact took down many biblical statements from the public eye.
And this is a Christian nation? Not from what I see. It seems like they walked away from their God and terrible things started to happen just like that phoney Jewish state did. They read the same Bible didn't they get the memo? They are better off burning it down and starting over again. America is not what it used to be back in the day.
 
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This debate is getting a little old right now. I have a idea let's talk about that great nation in the west you know that Christian nation America. So called the united states.
Don't look united to me from what I see. Christian? That's really questionable. Why they've adopted pagan holidays and observance.
They have racial radicals and churches that promote gay marriage. They even burn their own flag. There churches are closing monthly by the dozens. They teach Marxism, and communism in there learning institutions. Have you heard about their abortion rate? Un real.
No respect for there president. Took prayer out of the schools in fact took down many biblical statements from the public eye.
And this is a Christian nation? Not from what I see. It seems like they walked away from their God and terrible things started to happen just like that phoney Jewish state did. They read the same Bible didn't they get the memo? They are better off burning it down and starting over again. America is not what it used to be back in the day.


I think the only thing that keeps it from being destroyed are because a lot of God's children live in this nation. For now.

But because this nation has a lot of genuine Christians, they will be heavily persecuted and killed during the great tribulation.* That of course would reduce the number of God's children in this nation. I don't believe we're the Babylon in Revelation, but God will make the ungodly in this nation pay for what is going to be done to His children who live here.

So in light of that, I'll be dead and under the altar waiting for the rest of my brothers and sisters who have yet to be martyred. God can inflict as much pain and torture He wants on the US and all the other nations then. ☺️

*- I'm post-trib and don't believe any of us Christians will be whisked out of here before the great tribulation arrives. During the great tribulation, God has scheduled for the seven seals, the seven trumpets (the last trumpet ushers in Jesus' second coming/gathering). These judgements will destroy much of the resources we need for daily living. And on top of that, being hated for belonging to Jesus, nuclear war bombing all the major cities and the usual bad stuff that ungodly people do only worse. It would be better to not take the mark at all and be executed as early as possible because quality of life will be extremely terrible.


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Hi. Sorry I don't understand what you are saying. Could you clarify? Thanks

Since you are a newer member I was just letting you know that this information has been presented before, it is not new to the people to whom you are responding.
For them to see this truth, will take a spiritual act of deliverance, since they have given their minds over to falsehoods.
I mean you can try but it may be a wasted effort, that is all I meant.
 
Not true brother, need to study history. Russia thought they could win them over and have another allie when israel first became a nation. Israel refused so Russia started to arm the Arabs in hopes they would persuade them. It's in the history books.
Today you find Russia and Iran are close also China and Iran. Russia has forces in Syria and Lebanon.
… yeah … that means it’s not true that israel is a democracy established by the west and supported by the west and facilitated by the west . Russia was on our side in the war the wests side . Great Britain United States and Soviet Union .
 
You negated every fact about the evils of Zionism...but many people do because they want to see their dreams come true.

I live here, let just share some friendly facts you just quickly search online to show you how "G-dly the State is":

- Tel Aviv is worse than Las Vegas by 100x
- There is more trash on the grounds here than in a dump in New York
- The quality of food, structures etc, was better in 1800's than what we have today
- The Army has thrown over 100 young newly married men in jail for the crime of studying the BIBLE and they come in the middle of the night with Armoured trucks
- We have one of the highest abortions rates in the world and immorality is very great here
- The secular school system refrains from any mention of G-d or any teachings of the bible
- There is more hate between one another than many places primarily due too the extreme pressure the gov't puts on the residences
- 1/3 of children live in poverty....in one of the most advanced cities in the world!
- Christians are persecuted by the IDF and some churches have been bulldozed over recently for no reason but to occupy more land
- The entire world is growing in anti-semitism and the world and Israeli leaders know that we are killing ourselves with these horrible acts...like what kind of Testimony of Holiness are we sharing???

Please listen. The State of Israel and its Founders are part of the Beast. They are here to fool the world and it is very hard. The State of Israel has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible, G-dliness or even Jews for that matter. It was created and the founders clearly state that it was to attract Jews to the land and to kill G-d and the religion. Only this time instead of looking like an enemy, they dressed up in all the sheeps clothings you can think of.

I assume many of you live in USA. Do you not know the real reason why USA is the only country that full supports us? Do you know not know why you donated Billions to Israel? I will give you a hint. Go look at the History of your country and its origins and you will see Zionist hands all over it. Go read Protocols of Zion.

Zionist simply hijacked the "Jewish People" and threw us under them...Zionist are simply Satanic and might as well call them Nazis. They have nothing to do with the CHILDREN OF G-D...ZERO!!!
capita outside Silicon Valley. Its technology sector is a major economic engine, attracting global venture capital and leading to numerous groundbreaking inventions.

Here's are a few things you left out about Israel
  • Waze (2008): This GPS navigation app, crowdsources real-time traffic and road information from users, helping drivers find the most efficient routes. It was acquired by Google in 2013.
  • USB flash drive (1999): The portable data storage device known as the "DiskOnKey" was developed by the Israeli company M-Systems.
    • Mobileye (1999): This developer of vision-based Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS) was acquired by Intel in 2017 for $15.3 billion.
    • Computer processors: Israeli Intel engineers designed the Pentium MMX chip technology, the Pentium-4, and the Centrino processor. The Intel 8088 microprocessor, which was the basis of the first IBM PC, was also designed in Israel.
    • ICQ (1996): The first standalone instant messaging platform was developed by the Israeli company Mirabilis.
    • Firewall: Check Point Software Technologies pioneered stateful inspection technology, a core component of modern firewalls.
    • Website development: Wix, a cloud-based web development platform, was founded in Tel Aviv in 2006.

Medicine and biotechnology
Israeli scientists have been behind significant developments in diagnostics, treatments, and medical devices.
  • PillCam (2001): Given Imaging developed a pill-sized, ingestible video camera for visualizing and detecting gastrointestinal tract disorders.
  • Copaxone (1996): Teva Pharmaceutical Industries commercialized this groundbreaking drug for treating multiple sclerosis, which was developed at the Weizmann Institute of Science.
  • ReWalk (2010): This bionic walking assistance system allows paraplegics to stand upright and walk.
  • Azilect (2005): A drug for treating Parkinson's disease, developed by researchers at the Technion.
  • Israeli Bandage (1998): This specialized, multi-functional pressure bandage is used by medical and military personnel worldwide to stop bleeding from traumatic wounds.

    Agriculture and water management
    Israel has become a world leader in desert agriculture and water technology despite it's arid climate.
    • Drip irrigation (1965): Invented by Israeli engineer Simcha Blass, this method provides water and nutrients directly to plants' roots, conserving water and improving yields.
    • Cherry tomato (1970s): Israeli food scientists developed a new, shelf-stable variety of cherry tomato that transformed the global market.
    • Wastewater recycling: The country recycles approximately 80% of its wastewater for agricultural reuse, a far higher rate than any other country.
    • Desalination: Israel has pioneered large-scale desalination technology to create fresh drinking water, primarily from the Mediterranean Sea.

  • Culture and arts
    Israeli artists, writers, and performers have made their mark on the global cultural scene.
    • Hebrew language revival: Modern Hebrew was revived and standardized for daily use, a unique accomplishment in linguistic history.
    • Literature: Shmuel Yosef Agnon won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1966. Israeli authors like Amos Oz and David Grossman have also gained international acclaim.
    • Cinema and television: Israeli television shows such as In Treatment and Fauda have been adapted and broadcast worldwide.
    • Krav Maga: This Israeli self-defense system was developed for the Israel Defense Forces and is now practiced globally.
    • Gaga: Ohad Naharin's dance style, which uses body movement to improve dancers' flexibility and agility, is taught in dance schools worldwide.
  • You neglected to mention some great things Israel is doing.....and sharing ideas with it's neighbors esp clean water in the desert areas there.







 
… yeah … that means it’s not true that israel is a democracy established by the west and supported by the west and facilitated by the west . Russia was on our side in the war the wests side . Great Britain United States and Soviet Union .

Yes they were but what happened
 
Yes they were but what happened
Right they were . My point was that the nation of Israel was established by the west winning the war and the counsel afterwards . They all got together because the Jews were not only being persecuted in Germany and Italy but pretty much across the globe . It was a world problem the societies were blaming Jews for all the depressed economies . Illegal immigrants they saw them as and knew it was straining thoer societies

the solution they came up with was to force the people in the land pit and make a jewish state according to the land described in the Bible . “ all these wandering Jews are a problem they need a homeland let’s take what the Bible said and use it for justification to create a Jewish state and send them all to one place so they aren’t in our lands “

abut first we need to slaughter and remove those people that fill the land today . And so the Zionist plans and ideas that existed before this as a solution ….Began to be instilled and executed . The muslim peoples in the land began to swiftly be pushed out with violent means coercion threats and so on

My point was where the idea and motivations and means and decision came from it’s not what god promises in the Bible regarding Israel’s restoration . The messiah being rejected will never lead to restoration “ Jews “ need to convert to Christianity in order to inherit the blessing and be restored Gods way .

what we are seeing in this world now ( in my opinion and it’s okay that we don’t agree I don’t have a problem with it ) is not what God has foretold in the Bible regarding Israel’s salvation and restoration through a new eternal covenant and the messiah who brought it to them . God will do what he said but sometimes man tries to do it for him before he does it …..it never works out look at saria and her plan to provide Abraham an heir to fulfill gods promise to him by going outside his marriage with her servant as if God wasn’t able to provide the hier

i think ( just my opinion ) that’s what This is man trying to force gods plan by tboer own Will to restore a desolate nation to a people that are rejecting thier lord and savior whomis the only way for them or anyone else to be redeemed and restored to life everlasting
 
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capita outside Silicon Valley. Its technology sector is a major economic engine, attracting global venture capital and leading to numerous groundbreaking inventions.

Here's are a few things you left out about Israel
  • Waze (2008): This GPS navigation app, crowdsources real-time traffic and road information from users, helping drivers find the most efficient routes. It was acquired by Google in 2013.
  • USB flash drive (1999): The portable data storage device known as the "DiskOnKey" was developed by the Israeli company M-Systems.
    • Mobileye (1999): This developer of vision-based Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS) was acquired by Intel in 2017 for $15.3 billion.
    • Computer processors: Israeli Intel engineers designed the Pentium MMX chip technology, the Pentium-4, and the Centrino processor. The Intel 8088 microprocessor, which was the basis of the first IBM PC, was also designed in Israel.
    • ICQ (1996): The first standalone instant messaging platform was developed by the Israeli company Mirabilis.
    • Firewall: Check Point Software Technologies pioneered stateful inspection technology, a core component of modern firewalls.
    • Website development: Wix, a cloud-based web development platform, was founded in Tel Aviv in 2006.

Medicine and biotechnology
Israeli scientists have been behind significant developments in diagnostics, treatments, and medical devices.
  • PillCam (2001): Given Imaging developed a pill-sized, ingestible video camera for visualizing and detecting gastrointestinal tract disorders.
  • Copaxone (1996): Teva Pharmaceutical Industries commercialized this groundbreaking drug for treating multiple sclerosis, which was developed at the Weizmann Institute of Science.
  • ReWalk (2010): This bionic walking assistance system allows paraplegics to stand upright and walk.
  • Azilect (2005): A drug for treating Parkinson's disease, developed by researchers at the Technion.
  • Israeli Bandage (1998): This specialized, multi-functional pressure bandage is used by medical and military personnel worldwide to stop bleeding from traumatic wounds.

    Agriculture and water management
    Israel has become a world leader in desert agriculture and water technology despite it's arid climate.
    • Drip irrigation (1965): Invented by Israeli engineer Simcha Blass, this method provides water and nutrients directly to plants' roots, conserving water and improving yields.
    • Cherry tomato (1970s): Israeli food scientists developed a new, shelf-stable variety of cherry tomato that transformed the global market.
    • Wastewater recycling: The country recycles approximately 80% of its wastewater for agricultural reuse, a far higher rate than any other country.
    • Desalination: Israel has pioneered large-scale desalination technology to create fresh drinking water, primarily from the Mediterranean Sea.

  • Culture and arts
    Israeli artists, writers, and performers have made their mark on the global cultural scene.
    • Hebrew language revival: Modern Hebrew was revived and standardized for daily use, a unique accomplishment in linguistic history.
    • Literature: Shmuel Yosef Agnon won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1966. Israeli authors like Amos Oz and David Grossman have also gained international acclaim.
    • Cinema and television: Israeli television shows such as In Treatment and Fauda have been adapted and broadcast worldwide.
    • Krav Maga: This Israeli self-defense system was developed for the Israel Defense Forces and is now practiced globally.
    • Gaga: Ohad Naharin's dance style, which uses body movement to improve dancers' flexibility and agility, is taught in dance schools worldwide.
  • You neglected to mention some great things Israel is doing.....and sharing ideas with it's neighbors esp clean water in the desert areas there.






Nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ here, all worldly stuff
 
Do you know what we have here. This debate is not about fake Israel or fake jews its about the word of God.
I believe that the word of God transforms a person. I believe that the word of God can change a person heart and mind.
I know this to be true because for one the word says so. But the biggest reason that's what happened to me.
All the Bible is the word of God. And as far as I know the first church only had the old testament promises but yet look at the converts that were added daily by God.
So basically what the nay sayers are doing and saying is that God can't do it. That there conversion was done by there own intelligence. Denying the power of the word is risky business my friends.
I have no doubt that my God can do all things.
But maybe this is for everyone else other than the jews of Israel today. Yeah that's it.
Let me leave you with a few verses to ponder.

10:6 And the spirit of the Lord will come on you with power, and you will be acting like a prophet with them, and will be changed into another man.

1Sa 10:7 And when these signs come to you, see that you take the chance which is offered you; for God is with you.

1Sa 10:8 Then you are to go down before me to Gilgal, where I will come to you, for the offering of burned offerings and peace-offerings: go on waiting there for seven days till I come to you and make clear to you what you have to do.

1Sa 10:9 And it came about, that when he went away from Samuel, God gave him a changed heart: and all those signs took place that day.
 
Nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ here, all worldly stuff
It is worldly to a carnal mind, but in a spiritual sense, sharing techniques with neighbors on getting CLEAN water, is very Christian. Other ground breaking inventions to HELP mankind I see as a blessing, not merely a 'worldly' based motive. I realize some would never concede to this fact and that's on them.
 
Nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ here, all worldly stuff


It's evidence that God blessed them and in turn was a blessing to the whole world. Not only in giving us Jesus, but through the contributions they have given to world.


Genesis 12:1 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.

2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and
I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and
you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;

and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.



Here is an AI search on the matter:

Jewish World Contributions
The Jewish people have made profound and multifaceted contributions to the world, impacting science, technology, medicine, culture, and fundamental societal values. Despite comprising only 0.2% of the global population, their influence is disproportionately significant.

In science and technology, Jewish individuals have been instrumental in developing foundational innovations. This includes the invention or co-invention of the transistor, laser, holography, atomic clock, NMR spectroscopy (the basis for MRI), antibiotics, chemotherapy, monoclonal antibodies, genetic engineering, the artificial heart valve, pacemaker and defibrillator, flexible endoscopy, phacoemulsification cataract surgery, cybernetics, the von Neumann machine architecture (the foundation of the modern digital computer), the computer spreadsheet, word processor, and numerous programming languages like BASIC, COBOL, Ada, and LISP. They have also played key roles in the development of the Internet, Google, and artificial intelligence, including ChatGPT. The Haber process, essential for synthetic fertilizer and feeding an estimated 40% of the world's population, was a major contribution.

In medicine, Jewish scientists have made life-saving advances, including the discovery of human blood groups, penicillin, antibodies, growth factors, and the chemical transmission of nerve impulses. The development of the polio vaccine is another significant achievement. The concept of a seven-day week, which underpins the modern weekend, originated with the Jewish Sabbath, a revolutionary idea that introduced a regular period of rest and reflection.

Jewish thought has profoundly shaped ethical and philosophical foundations. The introduction of monotheism, the concept of the infinite value of every human life, and the idea that peace is preferable to war are central tenets that have influenced Western civilization. The principles of justice for all, including the protection of the vulnerable, the right to a fair trial, and the idea that government power should be limited, were revolutionary concepts introduced by Jewish law thousands of years before they were adopted elsewhere. The concept of tikkun olam (repairing the world) and the obligation of tzedaka (charity) have inspired generations of social justice movements.

Culturally, Jewish contributions are vast. The Bible, considered the most widely read and influential body of literature in human history, has been translated into over 2000 languages and is foundational to both Judaism and Christianity. Jewish composers and lyricists contributed to three-fourths of "The Great American Songbook," and the Broadway musical is a significant Jewish cultural innovation. The Jewish people have also been pivotal in the development of the modern financial system, including the international bond market.

The impact of Jewish achievement is also evident in the number of Nobel Prizes awarded to Jewish individuals. Over 20% of Nobel Prizes have been awarded to Jews, a rate far exceeding their population percentage. This includes 23% of Nobel laureates in physics and chemistry between 1901 and 2006, and 37% of recipients of the US National Medal of Science. These contributions, spanning millennia, continue to fulfill the promise of blessing the nations of the world.

And despite the whole world hating on them, their contributions to the world are still on going. God still upholds that prophecy in Genesis 12.


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Right they were . My point was that the nation of Israel was established by the west winning the war and the counsel afterwards . They all got together because the Jews were not only being persecuted in Germany and Italy but pretty much across the globe . It was a world problem the societies were blaming Jews for all the depressed economies . Illegal immigrants they saw them as and knew it was straining thoer societies

the solution they came up with was to force the people in the land pit and make a jewish state according to the land described in the Bible . “ all these wandering Jews are a problem they need a homeland let’s take what the Bible said and use it for justification to create a Jewish state and send them all to one place so they aren’t in our lands “

abut first we need to slaughter and remove those people that fill the land today . And so the Zionist plans and ideas that existed before this as a solution ….Began to be instilled and executed . The muslim peoples in the land began to swiftly be pushed out with violent means coercion threats and so on

My point was where the idea and motivations and means and decision came from it’s not what god promises in the Bible regarding Israel’s restoration . The messiah being rejected will never lead to restoration “ Jews “ need to convert to Christianity in order to inherit the blessing and be restored Gods way .

what we are seeing in this world now ( in my opinion and it’s okay that we don’t agree I don’t have a problem with it ) is not what God has foretold in the Bible regarding Israel’s salvation and restoration through a new eternal covenant and the messiah who brought it to them . God will do what he said but sometimes man tries to do it for him before he does it …..it never works out look at saria and her plan to provide Abraham an heir to fulfill gods promise to him by going outside his marriage with her servant as if God wasn’t able to provide the hier

i think ( just my opinion ) that’s what This is man trying to force gods plan by tboer own Will to restore a desolate nation to a people that are rejecting thier lord and savior whomis the only way for them or anyone else to be redeemed and restored to life everlasting

The Cold War is generally considered to have started in 1947, a time marked by increased geopolitical tension between the United States and the Soviet Union following World War II. Key events that set the stage include the Truman Doctrine, which committed the U.S. to containing communism, and the Marshall Plan, which aimed to rebuild Western Europe to prevent communist expansion.
 
The Cold War is generally considered to have started in 1947, a time marked by increased geopolitical tension between the United States and the Soviet Union following World War II. Key events that set the stage include the Truman Doctrine, which committed the U.S. to containing communism, and the Marshall Plan, which aimed to rebuild Western Europe to prevent communist expansion.
Yeah none of that addresses the point I made that the cirrent nation of Israel was man’s idea and design and plan and execution before any of that. It was a solution to the Jewish problem after ww2 and the Holocost .

It doesn’t change what god said he would do to restore Israel in scripture and what has been done by mankind to restore them being entirely contrary .

God will keep his word but he doesn’t bless man’s interventions making thier own way
 
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