Is masturbation really a sin?

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OK, yeah it's a short video nine minutes and a bit. It's a very good summary. He clearly shows the parameters around, the conditions in which people find themselves where they are tempted. So simply stated, he seems to me to be saying the disciplined Christian life says no to masturbation. Watch it and tell me if you disagree.
 
Derek Prince says the spirit of masturbation always comes out of the persons fingers and they can feel it leave. If you are possessed and enticed by that spirit, the next thing you know he invites all his buddies in also, like the spirit of Lust which begins enticing you in even more ways and more often.
Didn't you mention having masturbated as a teenager? Does that mean you had the spirit of masturbation? Did you feel it come out of your fingers? If not, does that prove you have a spirit of masturbation in you? Would that prove you have a spirit of lust?

I think we need to be wary of taking one preacher's experiences as a basis for doctrine.
 
Think about it.

God. Is a spirit,not a man. Yet,we use masculine pronouns to describe a Spirit wholly unknowable to our limited human intellect.

So men come along and write scrolls they tell us is inspired by the source of all existence.

And it has rules it expects us to follow. To make it happy with us.

The greatest power in existence, is watching.

It isn't that power that says masturbation is against its rules. Its the Hebrew men that made that rule.

Because,women masturbate too. While men who masturbate are spilling their seed. Wasting it. Not procreating their line with it.

The same reason men said women can't divorce.
If they remarry they'll mix blood,their "seed" with another man.
Making their first offspring half blood relations to someone else.

Proverbs 25:24
Better to live on the corner of a roof than to share a house with a nagging wife.
 
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The fact that we even have to ask is masturbation a sin demonstrates how much the world has corrupted the body of Christ. The real question is how can it not be a sin.
 
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The fact that we even have to ask is masturbation a sin demonstrates how much the world has corrupted the body of Christ. The real question is how can it not be a sin.
probably for medical reasons it may not be for single person, but the famous old argument would be if married couple can do it why can't i, all tho I wouldn't like to say what is it what isn't a sin, I believe complete celibacy would be required which I suspect not many people can live up to.
It's like asking is smoking a sin, The bible doesn't specifically state it is, but it's another one of those instances where you could say it's not stated but it most certainly should be a sin in my opinion.
 
There used to be a name for it, the "solitary vice." It was frowned upon by society because people back then knew it could lead to mental, emotional and spiritual degradation. But hey, now it's normal and healthy. It's usually those "healthy" guys who pull out a rifle and start shooting up the place.
 
There used to be a name for it, the "solitary vice." It was frowned upon by society because people back then knew it could lead to mental, emotional and spiritual degradation. But hey, now it's normal and healthy. It's usually those "healthy" guys who pull out a rifle and start shooting up the place.


...Or become serial killers!


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Think about it.

God. Is a spirit,not a man. Yet,we use masculine pronouns to describe a Spirit wholly unknowable to our limited human intellect.

So men come along and write scrolls they tell us is inspired by the source of all existence.

And it has rules it expects us to follow. To make it happy with us.

The greatest power in existence, is watching.

It isn't that power that says masturbation is against its rules. Its the Hebrew men that made that rule.

Because,women masturbate too. While men who masturbate are spilling their seed. Wasting it. Not procreating their line with it.

The same reason men said women can't divorce.
If they remarry they'll mix blood,their "seed" with another man.
Making their first offspring half blood relations to someone else.

Proverbs 25:24
Better to live on the corner of a roof than to share a house with a nagging wife.
Well, don't you believe the bible is the authority of the living God?
 
Didn't you mention having masturbated as a teenager? Does that mean you had the spirit of masturbation? Did you feel it come out of your fingers? If not, does that prove you have a spirit of masturbation in you? Would that prove you have a spirit of lust?

I think we need to be wary of taking one preacher's experiences as a basis for doctrine.
There is no shame in sin that is overcome. Or for someone seeking help from brothers and sisters.
 
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There used to be a name for it, the "solitary vice." It was frowned upon by society because people back then knew it could lead to mental, emotional and spiritual degradation. But hey, now it's normal and healthy. It's usually those "healthy" guys who pull out a rifle and start shooting up the place.
I've just done a bit of research on the solitary vice, its quite the controversial subject amongst the medical profession, and the author of a said book on this, went on to blame all sorts of medical conditions for what he described as self abuse, from his book called the solitary vice.

I could agree on one thing, that it could lead to all good self moral emotions being obliterated,
 
There is no shame in sin that is overcome. Or for someone seeking help from brothers and sisters.

There was what? One man who sought help in this thread? Many of the others sit around playing with themselves.

James 1:15
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death..../KJV

And they say, it's ok for me...
 
There was what? One man who sought help in this thread? Many of the others sit around playing with themselves.

James 1:15
15 Then when lust hath conceived, itare bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death..../KJV

And they say, it's ok for me...
the word is wankers 😂 the world is full of them
 
...Or become serial killers!


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I believe so yes, there's actually many true stories based on people sexually turned on when commitment murder.

I believe this is where all good morall emotions become obliterated through masturbation,
You can't understand why it may be so, and this is the extreme, but my guess is as the person master baits the wicked forces of the world plant weird fantasies in there heads, and obliterate good self moral emotions
 
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I believe so yes, there's actually many true stories based on people sexually turned on when commitment murder.

I believe this is where all good morall emotions become obliterated through masturbation,
You can't understand why it may be so, and this is the extreme, but my guess is as the person master baits the wicked forces of the world plant weird fantasies in there heads, and obliterate good self moral emotions


Right? I can't imagine Jeffrey Dahmer or John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy just say to themselves out of nowhere, "Oh! I think I will molest and kill somebody!"


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Right? I can't imagine Jeffrey Dahmer or John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy just say to themselves out of nowhere, "Oh! I think I will molest and kill somebody!"


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out of nowhere no maybe not, I believe thinking one thing may be something to do with impulse also, but it can also have something to do with the thoughts that can cross your mind when in any situation, some may say if the thought was there than so was the intent, but not necessarily,

For instance you may be confronted with someone who may have really annoyed you, the first thought could be that came across your mind could be one of hitting them, but was that a motive of the heart ?


Btw I love John wayne 😂

Remember the one he did with the with th kids, broke my heart 🥲
 
out of nowhere no maybe not, I believe thinking one thing may be something to do with impulse also, but it can also have something to do with the thoughts that can cross your mind when in any situation, some may say if the thought was there than so was the intent, but not necessarily,

For instance you may be confronted with someone who may have really annoyed you, the first thought could be that came across your mind could be one of hitting them, but was that a motive of the heart ?


Btw I love John wayne 😂

Remember the one he did with the with th kids, broke my heart 🥲


I asked an AI: Are one of the factors of serial killers masturbation with extreme thoughts?

Yes, compulsive masturbation combined with extreme, often violent fantasies is a significant factor associated with many serial killers. Research indicates that a common childhood and adolescent trait among serial killers is daydreaming and compulsive masturbation, frequently intertwined with morbid and elaborate fantasies involving violence, bondage, rape, and death. These fantasies often begin in youth and become a central part of their psychological life, serving as a form of escapism and a source of sexual arousal. The combination of masturbation with sadistic fantasies is particularly prevalent; studies have found that a high percentage of sexual murderers diagnosed as sexual sadists reported masturbating with such fantasies. This process can create a self-reinforcing cycle where the fantasy becomes more intense and detailed over time, eventually leading to a "tipping point" in early to mid-adulthood where the individual feels compelled to act out the fantasy in reality. The act of murder is often seen as necessary to fulfill the deeply ingrained fantasy, which is perceived as more stimulating than the actual aftermath.

I'm not saying all masturbators will turn into serial killers but masturbation is already a loss of self control that could lead to more extreme sinful thoughts and actions.


I've heard of John Wayne and he sounds cool, but I hadn't seen any movies with him. I'm sorry!


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I asked an AI: Are one of the factors of serial killers masturbation with extreme thoughts?

Yes, compulsive masturbation combined with extreme, often violent fantasies is a significant factor associated with many serial killers. Research indicates that a common childhood and adolescent trait among serial killers is daydreaming and compulsive masturbation, frequently intertwined with morbid and elaborate fantasies involving violence, bondage, rape, and death. These fantasies often begin in youth and become a central part of their psychological life, serving as a form of escapism and a source of sexual arousal. The combination of masturbation with sadistic fantasies is particularly prevalent; studies have found that a high percentage of sexual murderers diagnosed as sexual sadists reported masturbating with such fantasies. This process can create a self-reinforcing cycle where the fantasy becomes more intense and detailed over time, eventually leading to a "tipping point" in early to mid-adulthood where the individual feels compelled to act out the fantasy in reality. The act of murder is often seen as necessary to fulfill the deeply ingrained fantasy, which is perceived as more stimulating than the actual aftermath.

I'm not saying all masturbators will turn into serial killers but masturbation is already a loss of self control that could lead to more extreme sinful thoughts and actions.


I've heard of John Wayne and he sounds cool, but I hadn't seen any movies with him. I'm sorry!


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You where probably refering to John Wayne as a John doe, meaning anyone I take it,

You would have had to have grown up watching John Wayne the American actor, to truly appreciate how much of a lovable character he really was, but he's before most people times now if your parent never watched him, I believe he's passed away now.

In the 1972 movie the cowboys John hired a load of kids as cattle herders, the kids loved him, he's a legend known as the most loved American cowboy in history ☺️.
 
I asked an AI: Are one of the factors of serial killers masturbation with extreme thoughts?

Yes, compulsive masturbation combined with extreme, often violent fantasies is a significant factor associated with many serial killers. Research indicates that a common childhood and adolescent trait among serial killers is daydreaming and compulsive masturbation, frequently intertwined with morbid and elaborate fantasies involving violence, bondage, rape, and death. These fantasies often begin in youth and become a central part of their psychological life, serving as a form of escapism and a source of sexual arousal. The combination of masturbation with sadistic fantasies is particularly prevalent; studies have found that a high percentage of sexual murderers diagnosed as sexual sadists reported masturbating with such fantasies. This process can create a self-reinforcing cycle where the fantasy becomes more intense and detailed over time, eventually leading to a "tipping point" in early to mid-adulthood where the individual feels compelled to act out the fantasy in reality. The act of murder is often seen as necessary to fulfill the deeply ingrained fantasy, which is perceived as more stimulating than the actual aftermath.

I'm not saying all masturbators will turn into serial killers but masturbation is already a loss of self control that could lead to more extreme sinful thoughts and actions.





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Yep extremely disturbing Ai is probably correct.

All this ai is probably missing some points,

As it doesn't include kids being influenced by spiritual wicked forces.

But speaking of knowledge acquired from people in the know with first hand experience, compulsive masterbation is a sign of demon possession,

The thing is the young kid or anyone else will never truly know they have been possessed, and it's always most always to late before the kids mind gets totally corrupted and perverted before anything can be done.

Day dreaming is another sign to, but in the case of day dreaming it's more the demon has got inside of the visual memory to make the person see visions.

This temporary puts the kid into a trance like state, where by at that moment you can shout there name over and over and they won't hear you.