That's not what the verse says. Your version...faith comes by audibly hearing the word of God. The verse actually says that faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
What does "hearing" mean and what do you think others don't understand correctly about this language?
That's correct. They heard the gospel since their youths. I was simply responding to a particular inquiry.
As I recall you've said some have believed and some have not.
What is the Gospel you preach?
Correct me if I'm wrong but you're essentially saying [you and probably others have proclaimed the Gospel to them] > "they heard the Gospel since their youths" > some have heard the Gospel and have Faith & some have not heard the Gospel and do not have Faith.
So, some have heard but not heard.
Hearing includes spiritual understanding. If it simply meant audible hearing why did Jesus say...he that hath an ear to hear, let him hear...Everyone could audibly hear.
Paying too close attention to the faulty "inability" crowd is painful to the Spirit.
So, the definition of hearing in Rom10:17 is 'hearing & spiritually understanding', correct?
I have advised them several times to never attend a church with "reformed" teachings ever!
This captures the language better and then explains it (my underlining):
NET Matthew 11:15 The one who has ears had better listen!
NET Notes (Mat 11:15)
23 tn The translation "had better listen!" captures the force of the third person imperative more effectively than the traditional "let him hear," which sounds more like a permissive than an imperative to the modern English reader. This was Jesus' common expression to listen and heed carefully (cf. Matt 13:9, 43; Mark 4:9, 23; Luke 8:8, 14:35).
This is not saying they cannot understand.This is a rhetorical command. We all have ears (as you Cam note) so pay attention!
It's like saying, "Don't eat that or you will die! Do you hear me?" Of course they heard you, but the emphasis on attending to what was said.
Some heard and believed then were saved . Understanding comes after you are saved not before. Otherwise they understood everything before you even spoke to them.
NKJ Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our report?"
NET Matthew 11:15 The one who has ears had better listen!
The problem both Isaiah and Jesus were dealing with is people who would hear but not pay attention, not care, not obey, not believe.
Nothing new in humanity. What do people choose to do with information they're given...
NET Matthew 11:15 The one who has ears had better listen!
The problem both Isaiah and Jesus were dealing with is people who would hear but not pay attention, not care, not obey, not believe.
Nothing new in humanity. What do people choose to do with information they're given...
Some hear the gospel and are saved. Another hears the very same words and are not saved. If salvation was simply a matter of audibly hearing, both would be saved.
And if we keep this concise which means having to retain your definition of a word then we have the above.
Some of us language types know much of our problems in understanding one another is that when we have different definitions of words in mind, we are essentially speaking different languages. The words sound the same but have entirely different meanings.