Holocaust Memorial Day
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While the term Holocaust generally refers to the systematic mass-murder of the Jewish people in
German-occupied Europe, the Nazis also murdered a large number of non-Jewish people who were
also considered subhuman (Untermenschen) or undesirable. Some victims belonged to several
categories targeted for extermination, e.g. an assimilated Jew who was a member of a communist
party or someone of Jewish ancestry who identified as a Jehovah's Witness.
Non-Jewish victims of Nazism included Slavs (e.g. Russians, Belarusians, Poles, Ukrainians and Serbs),
the Romani (gypsies), LGBT people; mentally or physically disabled people; Soviet POWs, Roman
Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Spanish Republicans, Freemasons, people of color (especially the Afro-
German Mischlinge, called "Rhineland Bastards" by Hitler and the Nazi regime), and other minorities
not considered Aryan (Herrenvolk, or part of the "master race"); leftists, communists, trade unionists,
social democrats, socialists, anarchists, and other dissidents.
Taking into account all of the victims of persecution, the Nazis systematically murdered an estimated
six million Jews and an additional 11 million people during the war. Donald Niewyk suggests that the
broadest definition, including Soviet civilian deaths, would produce a total of 17 million victims. source
German-occupied Europe, the Nazis also murdered a large number of non-Jewish people who were
also considered subhuman (Untermenschen) or undesirable. Some victims belonged to several
categories targeted for extermination, e.g. an assimilated Jew who was a member of a communist
party or someone of Jewish ancestry who identified as a Jehovah's Witness.
Non-Jewish victims of Nazism included Slavs (e.g. Russians, Belarusians, Poles, Ukrainians and Serbs),
the Romani (gypsies), LGBT people; mentally or physically disabled people; Soviet POWs, Roman
Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Spanish Republicans, Freemasons, people of color (especially the Afro-
German Mischlinge, called "Rhineland Bastards" by Hitler and the Nazi regime), and other minorities
not considered Aryan (Herrenvolk, or part of the "master race"); leftists, communists, trade unionists,
social democrats, socialists, anarchists, and other dissidents.
Taking into account all of the victims of persecution, the Nazis systematically murdered an estimated
six million Jews and an additional 11 million people during the war. Donald Niewyk suggests that the
broadest definition, including Soviet civilian deaths, would produce a total of 17 million victims. source
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Thank you for adding these facts. I'm up to my neck in crafting and hot glue. Yes, many others were killed. I just watched a movie about the Mormons trying to flee the Nazis. Such a pity how people can be so inhuman to others. May God be with all the survivors today. And also with the Jewish hostages now being released. May they heal from the horrors of what they have faced.
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You brought up some important points that usually get overlooked when speaking about WW2.
From what history I read in my youth, there were far more identifying as Christians slaughtered during WW2 than those who identified as Jews.
I say identify, because many who claim to be Jews have no known lineage to Judah. Many who claim to be Christian have no known lineage to Christ, John chapter 3. I'll save that point for other threads.
This in no way takes away from the harsh death of any individual Jewish, Christian or whatever demographic. It is just that "the Holocaust" is a movement that has been used by Zionism to distinguish Jewish people for a number of reasons. I personally think that we should never exalt that people group above what is written in our Bible. All Lives are precious and wars are horrible as your post clearly describes. My special honor for any particular people group is to try to get them into our family, the true seed of Abraham. That is the only place where God will honor us forever.
I know we agree on all this, the world, on the other hand, honors special interest groups. Our honor is to the Lord Who is truly our Righteousness and Holiness. He gives to all life, and breath and all things. Acts 17:25.
This is Who the Jews need.
My heart is sad when I reminisce about my Jewish relatives who did not die in the Holocaust, but died all the same.
I wish I was bolder and more forthright to lead them to the Savior before that time.
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WW2 Was horrific.
This may or may not be accurate since it's a wikipedia entry, but it does further show the gravity of what you @Magenta and @ThereRoseaLamb posted. It's impossible to actually comprehend these numbers of souls that left into eternity. It reminds me that we need to seriously pray that God will prevent WW3.
World War II casualties
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70–85 million deaths were caused by the conflict, representing about 3% of the estimated global population of 2.3 billion in 1940.[1] Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilian fatalities) are estimated at 50–56 million, with an additional estimated 19–28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilian deaths totaled 50–55 million. Military deaths from all causes totaled 21–25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. More than half of the total number of casualties are accounted for by the dead of the Republic of China and of the Soviet Union. The following tables give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. Statistics on the number of military wounded are included whenever available.
World War II deaths by country
World War II deaths by theater
Recent historical scholarship has shed new light on the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet World War II fatalities.[2] According to Russian government figures, USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million,[3][4] including 8 to 9 million due to famine and disease.[4][5][2] In August 2009 the Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) researchers estimated Poland's dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million.[6] Historian Rüdiger Overmans of the Military History Research Office (Germany) published a study in 2000 estimating the German military dead and missing at 5.3 million, including 900,000 men conscripted from outside of Germany's 1937 borders, in Austria, and in east-central Europe.[7][8] The Red Army claimed responsibility for the majority of Wehrmacht casualties during World War II.[9] The People's Republic of China puts its war dead at 20 million,[10] while the Japanese government puts its casualties due to the war at 3.1 million.[11] An estimated 7–10 million people died in the Dutch, British, French and US colonies in South and Southeast Asia, mostly from war-related famine."
This may or may not be accurate since it's a wikipedia entry, but it does further show the gravity of what you @Magenta and @ThereRoseaLamb posted. It's impossible to actually comprehend these numbers of souls that left into eternity. It reminds me that we need to seriously pray that God will prevent WW3.
World War II casualties
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70–85 million deaths were caused by the conflict, representing about 3% of the estimated global population of 2.3 billion in 1940.[1] Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilian fatalities) are estimated at 50–56 million, with an additional estimated 19–28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilian deaths totaled 50–55 million. Military deaths from all causes totaled 21–25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. More than half of the total number of casualties are accounted for by the dead of the Republic of China and of the Soviet Union. The following tables give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. Statistics on the number of military wounded are included whenever available.
Recent historical scholarship has shed new light on the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet World War II fatalities.[2] According to Russian government figures, USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million,[3][4] including 8 to 9 million due to famine and disease.[4][5][2] In August 2009 the Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) researchers estimated Poland's dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million.[6] Historian Rüdiger Overmans of the Military History Research Office (Germany) published a study in 2000 estimating the German military dead and missing at 5.3 million, including 900,000 men conscripted from outside of Germany's 1937 borders, in Austria, and in east-central Europe.[7][8] The Red Army claimed responsibility for the majority of Wehrmacht casualties during World War II.[9] The People's Republic of China puts its war dead at 20 million,[10] while the Japanese government puts its casualties due to the war at 3.1 million.[11] An estimated 7–10 million people died in the Dutch, British, French and US colonies in South and Southeast Asia, mostly from war-related famine."
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WW2 Was horrific.
This may or may not be accurate since it's a wikipedia entry, but it does further show the gravity of what you @Magenta and @ThereRoseaLamb posted. It's impossible to actually comprehend these numbers of souls that left into eternity. It reminds me that we need to seriously pray that God will prevent WW3.
World War II casualties
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70–85 million deaths were caused by the conflict, representing about 3% of the estimated global population of 2.3 billion in 1940.[1] Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilian fatalities) are estimated at 50–56 million, with an additional estimated 19–28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilian deaths totaled 50–55 million. Military deaths from all causes totaled 21–25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. More than half of the total number of casualties are accounted for by the dead of the Republic of China and of the Soviet Union. The following tables give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. Statistics on the number of military wounded are included whenever available.
World War II deaths by country
World War II deaths by theater
Recent historical scholarship has shed new light on the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet World War II fatalities.[2] According to Russian government figures, USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million,[3][4] including 8 to 9 million due to famine and disease.[4][5][2] In August 2009 the Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) researchers estimated Poland's dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million.[6] Historian Rüdiger Overmans of the Military History Research Office (Germany) published a study in 2000 estimating the German military dead and missing at 5.3 million, including 900,000 men conscripted from outside of Germany's 1937 borders, in Austria, and in east-central Europe.[7][8] The Red Army claimed responsibility for the majority of Wehrmacht casualties during World War II.[9] The People's Republic of China puts its war dead at 20 million,[10] while the Japanese government puts its casualties due to the war at 3.1 million.[11] An estimated 7–10 million people died in the Dutch, British, French and US colonies in South and Southeast Asia, mostly from war-related famine."
This may or may not be accurate since it's a wikipedia entry, but it does further show the gravity of what you @Magenta and @ThereRoseaLamb posted. It's impossible to actually comprehend these numbers of souls that left into eternity. It reminds me that we need to seriously pray that God will prevent WW3.
World War II casualties
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70–85 million deaths were caused by the conflict, representing about 3% of the estimated global population of 2.3 billion in 1940.[1] Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilian fatalities) are estimated at 50–56 million, with an additional estimated 19–28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilian deaths totaled 50–55 million. Military deaths from all causes totaled 21–25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. More than half of the total number of casualties are accounted for by the dead of the Republic of China and of the Soviet Union. The following tables give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. Statistics on the number of military wounded are included whenever available.
Recent historical scholarship has shed new light on the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet World War II fatalities.[2] According to Russian government figures, USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million,[3][4] including 8 to 9 million due to famine and disease.[4][5][2] In August 2009 the Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) researchers estimated Poland's dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million.[6] Historian Rüdiger Overmans of the Military History Research Office (Germany) published a study in 2000 estimating the German military dead and missing at 5.3 million, including 900,000 men conscripted from outside of Germany's 1937 borders, in Austria, and in east-central Europe.[7][8] The Red Army claimed responsibility for the majority of Wehrmacht casualties during World War II.[9] The People's Republic of China puts its war dead at 20 million,[10] while the Japanese government puts its casualties due to the war at 3.1 million.[11] An estimated 7–10 million people died in the Dutch, British, French and US colonies in South and Southeast Asia, mostly from war-related famine."
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You are welcome. I know you have a heart for these people... meanwhile the inimitable lunacy of the left
took shape in comments made in '22 by Whoopi Goldberg, whose absurd claim that the Holocaust ‘isn’t
about race’ because it involved two white groups of people, as if all white people are the same race.
Ineptitude knows no bounds. She was kind of cornered after that, and after taking a lot of flak, apologized.
took shape in comments made in '22 by Whoopi Goldberg, whose absurd claim that the Holocaust ‘isn’t
about race’ because it involved two white groups of people, as if all white people are the same race.
Ineptitude knows no bounds. She was kind of cornered after that, and after taking a lot of flak, apologized.
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My pastor and I have discussed whether Luther made it to heaven. His hatred was so strong. Nazis pointed to his sermons when asked why they did what they did. I know God is merciful so I leave that in His hands to decide. But I believe his hatred led all the way to the Holocaust. You're right about the Catholics too, who were the first to make Jews wear the star of David to separate them as a people.
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The holocaust started for a good reason. They started displacing Jews from the Jewish ghetto who were experiencing a lice outbreak. They were told they were being taken to be treated. That’s why they were told they needed to shave their heads and take mass showers. At first the german people weren’t even sure what exactly what’s happening.
And so it has begun in America. They start displacing, criminals, and immigrants for the good of our country… hopefully history doesn’t repeat itself, but all the red flags are there
Buckle up we’re in for a rough four years.
And so it has begun in America. They start displacing, criminals, and immigrants for the good of our country… hopefully history doesn’t repeat itself, but all the red flags are there
Buckle up we’re in for a rough four years.
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The video above are sample pages from the Gran'pa Jack Series.
American Orthodox Jew Aaron Zelman wondered why most Jews didn't fight back to defend their arrest and enslavement. He didn't want Jews to ever experience a holocaust again, so he began educating Jewish people how they had been mislead by liberal victimization mindset of the Jewish leadership of Zionism and of religious Judaism. The concern for lives and their value led him to teach history to educate those who identify as Jews. His influence reached more non-jews than his target audience.
One of many tools he used were the Gran'pa Jack Booklet series, sample pages above. I suggest anyone interested in them, contact the publisher.
In my opinion, education is the only way to persuade others about the value of life. Having witnessed the mu√der of a little brother at the beginning of my Mom's second and final marriage, I have given the topic of life much thought and formed strong opinions. If anyone has wondered why I am passionate about saving lives, that traumatic experience probably began that process.
Love to all my brothers and sisters here at Christian Chat.
American Orthodox Jew Aaron Zelman wondered why most Jews didn't fight back to defend their arrest and enslavement. He didn't want Jews to ever experience a holocaust again, so he began educating Jewish people how they had been mislead by liberal victimization mindset of the Jewish leadership of Zionism and of religious Judaism. The concern for lives and their value led him to teach history to educate those who identify as Jews. His influence reached more non-jews than his target audience.
One of many tools he used were the Gran'pa Jack Booklet series, sample pages above. I suggest anyone interested in them, contact the publisher.
In my opinion, education is the only way to persuade others about the value of life. Having witnessed the mu√der of a little brother at the beginning of my Mom's second and final marriage, I have given the topic of life much thought and formed strong opinions. If anyone has wondered why I am passionate about saving lives, that traumatic experience probably began that process.
Love to all my brothers and sisters here at Christian Chat.
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