Understanding God’s election

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Genez

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Why are we arguing?

What's to be gained from it?

To see who's the most stubborn?
 

Rufus

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Those who walked away did not acknowledge and/or embrace the Truth. Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom but not the final outcome, for fear has to do with punishment, and perfect love drives out fear... and that comes as one grows in the knowledge and grace of God, after surrendering. So yes, we should all as Christians have come to that place of, where else would we go now that we know the Truth? And also be able to echo Paul, in acknowledging ourselves the worst of sinners, but many here cannot attribute to the natural man anything that even near approaches that.
Most of the time the "fear of the Lord" (which is a huge biblical theme throughout the bible) is not talking about "fear" in the sense of terror, or frightening or apprehension. It's talking about reverential, respectful honoring awe and of the Creator. In fact, the "fear of the Lord" is a grace of God that he promised to unilaterally and effectually instill into his New Covenant people (Jer 32:40) for the explicit purpose, stated in this particular passage, of preserving his chosen people. In other words, the "fear of the Lord" is more than just the "beginning" of wisdom, it is the ongoing, sanctifying, preserving grace that will carry the believe to the end of his life. It is in a real sense the Alpha and Omega of the believer's life!
 

Rufus

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wheat is so precious too us the tares are to be put where they are going ......He makes no mistakes...wheat won't be accidentally thrown and no tares with wheat lest they ruin the crop, Father has final say on what belongs where trust His Judgment not one of His will be lost
In other words, they're not equal. The "wheat" have one destiny and the "tares" quite another!
 

Rufus

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No, that's the character of God. Don't give me any of your false proof texts. The Bible tells us the character of God and that is not it
Why don't you dazzle us with your knowledge of Scripture and tell us what YOU think God's character is.
 

Mem

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Whatever the truth of the matter I'm sure we all have our reasons... Speaking of Paul, I have wondered if he realized he was writing Scripture at the time that he wrote the letters that are now considered to be Scripture... I know that some of the other apostles did consider his writings to be Scripture... [/QUOTE]
I imagine that Paul's concern about what others thought of ceased abruptly the moment he was knocked off of his horse. He certainly didn't even try to argue with Jesus but spent the remainder of His life declaring how his blindness revealed to him how wrong he had been. So many high horses, yet so little time, even as it flies.
 

Rufus

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This is amusing since those who were in the literal throne room of God always states only 1 throne...j/s

I don't know how you can make such a statement even though we believe as such when they only describe 1 throne after being there.

Can you show me Isaiah and Ezekiel and others describing a Trinity together when they were there?
"Holy, holy, holy" is an intimation of the Trinity. Is not the Father holy? And the Son? And the Holy Spirit? Are not the Three Persons One God?
 
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The punctuation isn't that good so I may be agreeing to something you aren't meaning, but I think I agree.
You think?

Now I know why you encourage the depravity of the dark members here to continue to assail The Word and Christians.

One full sentence there so you don't have to pick through the English language and try to understand.
I wonder how many accounts you have here?

No wonder you good the worst example of a fake Christian on this site, CV5.


I would love to know which one of you use to be known at CF.Com as, DControversial?

This site turns out to be exactly what reviews say of it.

Not many actual Christians. Just a ton of Discordians that get off on abusing actual ones that stop in.

Wife was right.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Your reasoning is in line with them who repliest against God

NO! YOU have created a cruel god with no mercy. A good that would create children to be damned is no god at all. That is a capricious mythical being like the Greeks made up. It it NOT the GOD of the Bible!!!
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Why don't you dazzle us with your knowledge of Scripture and tell us what YOU think God's character is.

I already have, remember the verses you and Cranberry couldn't find error in? The ones you ignored?!! Look backward and you will find them.
 

Magenta

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In other words, they're not equal. The "wheat" have one destiny and the "tares" quite another!
Yesterday is I was listening to the Christian talk radio broadcast online while at work... or maybe it was Tuesday ...I heard somebody teaching on the wheat and the tares, and they said one of the differences between the real vegetation is that the wheat has a white inside and the tares are black inside... I find God's attention to such detail quite spectacular really.
 

Cameron143

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You think?

Now I know why you encourage the depravity of the dark members here to continue to assail The Word and Christians.

One full sentence there so you don't have to pick through the English language and try to understand.
I wonder how many accounts you have here?

No wonder you good the worst example of a fake Christian on this site, CV5.


I would love to know which one of you use to be known at CF.Com as, DControversial?

This site turns out to be exactly what reviews say of it.

Not many actual Christians. Just a ton of Discordians that get off on abusing actual ones that stop in.

Wife was right.
My apologies. I wasn't sure what you were saying in the post. So I tried humor to say as much. I wasn't trying to offend.
Grace and peace.
 

HeIsHere

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NO! YOU have created a cruel god with no mercy. A good that would create children to be damned is no god at all. That is a capricious mythical being like the Greeks made up. It it NOT the GOD of the Bible!!!
Yup and here we are .. when we start with a perversion of what the Bible clearly teaches on coming to "belief and faith."

Galatians 5:9 Amplified Bible (AMP) A little leaven [a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers] leavens the whole batch [it perverts the concept of faith and misleads the church].
 

Magenta

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I imagine that Paul's concern about what others thought of ceased abruptly the moment he was knocked off of his horse. He certainly didn't even try to argue with Jesus but spent the remainder of His life declaring how his blindness revealed to him how wrong he had been. So many high horses, yet so little time, even as it flies.
I wonder how much Paul really cared in the first place about what others thought of him. His main focus was on defending what he understood to be the Truth.
 

Magenta

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Yup and here we are .. when we start with a perversion of what the Bible clearly teaches on coming to "belief and faith."

Galatians 5:9 Amplified Bible (AMP) A little leaven [a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers] leavens the whole batch [it perverts the concept of faith and misleads the church].
Now here is true irony ... quoting a Bible translation that adds to what Scripture says while condemning adding to Scripture.
 

Magenta

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My apologies. I wasn't sure what you were saying in the post.
So I tried humor to say as much. I wasn't trying to offend.
Grace and peace.
Punctuation really does exist for a very good reason. Poor punctuation can muddy a person's meaning.

Better to agree with a caveat when unsure than to just jump in not knowing.
 

Cameron143

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Punctuation really does exist for a very good reason. Poor punctuation can muddy a person's meaning.

Better to agree with a caveat when unsure than to just jump in not knowing.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but punctuation will never hurt me.
 

Magenta

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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but punctuation will never hurt me.
Punctual comes to mind. It really is about timing. Punctuation helps identify pauses, stops, segues, and tangents.

AI: Punctuation helps identify the boundaries of sentences, phrases, and clauses, and it helps identify the type of
sentence, such as a statement or a question. Punctuation also helps to clarify meaning and add emotional impact.