Throughout those two posts (OP), I see nowhere covered the following word (in bold):
"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath G138 ➔ from the beginning chosen G138 you to salvation through [en] sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
- 2 Thessalonians 2:13
(a verse written to the same people that in verses 2,3a of this SAME CONTEXT Paul exhorted them not to be "deceived [subjunctive]" by a false claim floating around--why would Paul exhort about such a thing if it were "not possible"... and I'm not suggesting they would "lose their salvation"... I'm just pointing out that, if this statement in the OP [quoted at top] is a blanket statement, Paul would have had NO reason to say in v.3a, "Let no man deceive you in any way" TO THESE VERY PEOPLE that he is also saying were "chosen" by God).
Strong's "G138 - haireō / heilato " -
-- HELPS Word-studies
138 hairéomai (a primitive verb, always in the Greek middle voice) – properly, lay hold of by a personal choice.
[The Greek middle voice emphasizes the self-interest of the one preferring (deciding) to grasp or take.]
-- †αἱρέομαι hairéomai, hahee-reh'-om-ahee; probably akin to G142 [ airo ]; to take for oneself, i.e. to prefer:—choose. Some of the forms are borrowed from a cognate ἕλλομαι héllomai hel'-lom-ahee; which is otherwise obsolete.
[G138 - "hath chosen"--a whole 'nuther category...]
"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath G138 ➔ from the beginning chosen G138 you to salvation through [en] sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
- 2 Thessalonians 2:13
(a verse written to the same people that in verses 2,3a of this SAME CONTEXT Paul exhorted them not to be "deceived [subjunctive]" by a false claim floating around--why would Paul exhort about such a thing if it were "not possible"... and I'm not suggesting they would "lose their salvation"... I'm just pointing out that, if this statement in the OP [quoted at top] is a blanket statement, Paul would have had NO reason to say in v.3a, "Let no man deceive you in any way" TO THESE VERY PEOPLE that he is also saying were "chosen" by God).
Strong's "G138 - haireō / heilato " -
-- HELPS Word-studies
138 hairéomai (a primitive verb, always in the Greek middle voice) – properly, lay hold of by a personal choice.
[The Greek middle voice emphasizes the self-interest of the one preferring (deciding) to grasp or take.]
-- †αἱρέομαι hairéomai, hahee-reh'-om-ahee; probably akin to G142 [ airo ]; to take for oneself, i.e. to prefer:—choose. Some of the forms are borrowed from a cognate ἕλλομαι héllomai hel'-lom-ahee; which is otherwise obsolete.
[G138 - "hath chosen"--a whole 'nuther category...]
We both agree that the "hidden" MYSTERY of the Rapture will occur rather stealthily.
The Wife of YHVH will be first to notice.
Chronister (rightly IMO) opines that there will be some kind of "covering" event that "masks" the spectacle of the rapture.
Something like a shut down of digital comms etc because of an earth magnetic field event, solar flare, EMP or whatever.
You have to figure, if only say 1 out of 100 get raptured, it would be relatively easy to mask this way.