Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Here is some AC proclivities for you. You know.....full frontal soulless atheist materialist communist.

BREAKING BOMBSHELL House Oversight has subpoenaed DHS for records relating to Tim Walz’ alleged close ties to Chinese Communist Party after whistleblower informs of U.S. intelligence uncovering verified links

(1) Benny Johnson on X: "🚨 BREAKING BOMBSHELL 🚨 House Oversight has subpoenaed DHS for records relating to Tim Walz’ alleged close ties to Chinese Communist Party after whistleblower informs of U.S. intelligence uncovering verified links https://t.co/oScxjTcm19" / X
It will be interesting to see what they find. Waltz seems to think highly of the Chinese people, although very critical of their government. We will see if the house of Representatives can pull together anything definitive.

We should also ask the question, is it possible that while campaigning hard for an AntiChrist and doing everything one can to try to secure his victory, is it possible that one might actually bow down to Satan through the bearing of false witness? Is it possible that being so close to an AntiChrist could lead one to lose sight of Christ and doing His work, and thus be led astray?

Trump is morally toxic. Everything he touches dies.

Don't lose your soul to politics and the doctrines of men.
 
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He may be insightful but not a great speaker. Here is the short version for people who don't want to spend an hour:

Genesis 14:23 That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:

Satan is the king of Sodom. As men of faith we cannot allow Satan to have any claim whatsoever over us. This is why when you get saved you must repent of anything that involves Satan and make full restitution.

For example in Acts we see Levites selling their land and putting the full price at the feet of the apostles. The Lord told us that these levites had devoured widow's houses. The Levites are the ones who identify leprosy (which signifies rebellion) and then banish those with leprosy to live with the other lepers, where no doubt they actually do get leprosy. When a person is banished who gets their house? It can't go to someone from another tribe except for the Levites. They are the only ones who can live in all the tribes. So then you like a house, you "diagnose" leprosy in the owner, banish him, and you get the house. The wife becomes a widow, and without the bread winner she can't maintain the house. So they "devour widow's houses". But when they came to Jesus they repented of this sin and realized the money from this was a stain on them. The only way to clean their robes is to sell the land and put it at the feet of Jesus.

Acts 4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

Now let's go back to Genesis 14, the King of Sodom (Satan) wanted to exchange the loot for the people. Satan wants to make people captive to sin and he does this by giving you something, whatever you want, in exchange to being a slave of sin. Abraham said no. That is what we are called to do when we are saved and also become son's of Abraham by faith.

Acts 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

We don't believe in coincidences, we believe in God. The high priest is named Ananias. If the Levites are getting rich by devouring widows houses it surely would include the high priest. We have recently discovered documents of Ananias trying to justify what he did in ordering Jesus to be crucified. He said the key item that forced his hand was when Jesus flipped the money changers tables in the temple. This is why we have the term "sold out". You can be sold out to Jesus, or you can be sold out to Satan, you can't be both. Ananias was pretending to be sold out to Jesus when in fact he was sold out to Satan. This is what we have discovered in the church today, many churches are run by a board of directors and on that board you have Freemasons. They pretend to be sold out to Jesus but in reality they are sold out to Satan.

2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

We should compare this with what Judas did. He betrayed Jesus with a kiss and you could say that Ananias was betraying Peter with this "offering", like a kiss. After kissing Jesus they arrested Him to be crucified. That was Ananias that orchestrated that. In the same way I think this was also planned to entrap Peter with an excuse to arrest him, accuse him of some crime (tax fraud), and defame the church.

3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Satan did this to make Ananias a slave of sin, He did this to attack the church and give him a reason to slander and accuse the church of being sinful.

4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

But focus on our own lives. Do you pretend to be sold out to Jesus? Do you justify taking financial gain when you know it is from being abusive to others. Gain that involves lying, deceiving Best selling products , and manipulating people?

I skip 2 Kings 1 and 2 Kings 6 because although it does support this interpretation it isn't necessary.

January 6th is a prime example. Pelosi and Schumer were the ones who manipulated that event to make it look like rebellion (leprosy) so that they could banish MAGA (domestic terrorists) and seize their homes. They need manpower to seize the homes which is why the border is thrown open to over 20 million illegals during Biden's administration with an estimated 45 million illegals living in the country at present.
thanks for sharing these information.
 

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It will be interesting to see what they find. Waltz seems to think highly of the Chinese people, although very critical of their government. We will see if the house of Representatives can pull together anything definitive.

We should also ask the question, is it possible that while campaigning hard for an AntiChrist and doing everything one can to try to secure his victory, is it possible that one might actually bow down to Satan through the bearing of false witness? Is it possible that being so close to an AntiChrist could lead one to lose sight of Christ and doing His work, and thus be led astray?

Trump is morally toxic. Everything he touches dies.

Don't lose your soul to politics and the doctrines of men.
Frankly, the political intrigues and players only affect my vote insofar as my personal rights and freedoms are affected.

Anybody who will preserve them gets the vote. Anyone who seeks to destroy them gets kicked to the curb.

I ONLY vote with utterly selfish motives. Me. And my OWN personal rights and freedoms. Period.
I do not vote for what's is good for anything else or anyone else, or for some grand design. Nope.

Me. My rights and freedoms. Period. Thats it.
 
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Frankly, the political intrigues and players only affect my vote insofar as my personal rights and freedoms are affected.

Anybody who will preserve them gets the vote. Anyone who seeks to destroy them gets kicked to the curb.

I ONLY vote with utterly selfish motives. Me. And my OWN personal rights and freedoms. Period.
I do not vote for what's is good for anything else or anyone else, or for some grand design. Nope.

Me. My rights and freedoms. Period. Thats it.
It's your right as an American. Vote! And every other American will do the same.

But at the same time, don't lose your soul to politics and the doctrines of men.
 

cv5

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It will be interesting to see what they find. Waltz seems to think highly of the Chinese people, although very critical of their government. We will see if the house of Representatives can pull together anything definitive.

We should also ask the question, is it possible that while campaigning hard for an AntiChrist and doing everything one can to try to secure his victory, is it possible that one might actually bow down to Satan through the bearing of false witness? Is it possible that being so close to an AntiChrist could lead one to lose sight of Christ and doing His work, and thus be led astray?

Trump is morally toxic. Everything he touches dies.

Don't lose your soul to politics and the doctrines of men.
If you think that I think that ANY of these candidates (and most of the DC swamp creatures as well) are in fact Christian believers, then you are gravely mistaken.

Because I do not think that ANY of them give a hoot about Jesus God.

Because if they did, they would do what Matthew Levi did. Believe and then immediately depart from the political mafia and end their worship of mammon, throw a party and publicly declare to the whole world of their conversion.

Matthew Levi wisely bailed out. And Zacchaeus too. Don't forget about him.
Left the gangstas and gangbangers, leg-breakers, prostitutes, easy money. And turn from their evil ways to follow their Master.

This is the evidence of the legit believer. Anything less is a joke.
 
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If you think that I think that ANY of these candidates (and most of the DC swamp creatures as well) are in fact Christian believers, then you are gravely mistaken.

Because I do not think that ANY of them give a hoot about Jesus God.

Because if they did, they would do what Matthew Levi did. Believe and then immediately depart from the political mafia and end their worship of mammon, throw a party and publicly declare to the whole world of their conversion.

Matthew Levi wisely bailed out. And Zacchaeus too. Don't forget about him.
Left the gangstas and gangbangers, leg-breakers, prostitutes, easy money. And turn from their evil ways to follow their Master.

This is the evidence of the legit believer. Anything less is a joke.
That's why I say "don't lose your soul to politics and the doctrines of men."
 

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My wife and I just saw the movie, "Vindicating Trump." It was good but disturbing! They showed how easy it is to cheat in the election and how we still lack too many safeguards for a fair election. :cautious:
 

cv5

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That is a very big red flag to me. I have heard this before about others and it was always a major sign something was really, really wrong.

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
"Greatest hayseed bible scholar who never went to seminary of this present age. Nobody compares."

There you go buddy, fixed it for you. That is what I meant to say.

And yes, definitely, that is how I prefer my teachers. Seminaries today are a disaster. Another sign of the times.
 

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My wife and I just saw the movie, "Vindicating Trump." It was good but disturbing! They showed how easy it is to cheat in the election and how we still lack too many safeguards for a fair election. :cautious:
Safeguards? Oh no, they don't want any of those. They definitely want a crooked, compromised leaky election system in America.

Other countries have air-tight systems and the US could do likewise.
But fraud and criminality is the preferred business model in the USA I am afraid.
 

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I'm not a Trump supporter so I can't really say. All I know is Project 2025 wants to impose strict governmental control in the name of family values and conservatism. It wants to concentrate power in hands of a few individuals. Republicans are the ones always complaining that the Democrats are Marxist and Communist and want to impose tyranny; it actually seems the other way around to me.
For some reason affordable health care, subsidized post-secondary education, multiculturalism, support of unions, women's rights and environmental protections are Marxist and Communist to Republicans. Not cultivating these values or ideals actually leads to all kinds of incivility.
 

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So hard to fight ignorance. Especially with those that don’t care about facts.

Social Security and Medicare are disasters.

SS says you are too stupid to save for your retirement, so we’ll take your money and give it to you when you get old enough. I would have opted out if given the choice.

Medicare is a primary reason medical bills have skyrocketed the past 55 years. ALL of the original recipients contributed ZERO to the system.

The Veterans Administration was signed into law by Republican President Herbert Hoover in 1930. So that’s a leftist lie. ( Natural language of democrats).

The civil rights act of 1964 was passed by mostly republicans in congress, racist democrats fought tooth and nail against it.

Women’s suffrage was introduced and passed by the REPUBLICAN Senate and Congress in 1920. ( Boy do the democrats lie a lot!) How many blacks know that Abraham Lincoln and the GOP abolished slavery. Again, the Democrats wanted to keep blacks in chains.

Obamacare (ACA) was one of the worst pieces of legislation ever enacted, and continues to destroy our health care system in various ways.

The peace corps? Ummm ok whatever….

We can now see the end result of “minimum wage” laws. Mandated $20 an hour to flip burgers. Resulting in business closures, insane happy meal prices, and massive layoffs.

Unemployment insurance is more communist bs. Siphoning money from workers and businesses to feed the federal government.

The weekend! lol. You’re a joke.
And everything Democrats and unions touch turns to feces.
At least you're consistent at spreading misinformation.
 

ZNP

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"Greatest hayseed bible scholar who never went to seminary of this present age. Nobody compares."

There you go buddy, fixed it for you. That is what I meant to say.

And yes, definitely, that is how I prefer my teachers. Seminaries today are a disaster. Another sign of the times.
How about saying he has like precious faith as the apostles?

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: