How do you get saved?

[Burn1986]

Some of these arguments are like playing “what if”. We’ve all done it. There’s usually some repressed anger behind it. If you see a person going on and on, pressing a certain point, then there’s some anger at God for something in their life.

 

[Lamar]

Obedience is not required to receive the holy spirit.Belief is.

God is not bound to give the Holy Spirit because of belief or actions. This is the flaw in your logic.

God can both give and take away the Holy Spirit, it is His will.

A person may be gifted the Holy Spirit or have it taken away without their knowledge.

Judges 16:20
Then she cried, “Samson, the Philistines are here!” When he awoke from his sleep, he said, “I will escape as I did before and shake myself free.” But he did not know that the LORD had left him.

Paul believed the moment Jesus spoke to him and asked him why he was persecuting him.

Paul had no works and was not obedient before he received the holy spirit.He received the holy Ghost because he was chosen.Not because he was a great guy nor because he was doing what he supposed to because he wasn't.

There is no other way to label this statement other than human conjecture.

 

[Lamar]

Some of these arguments are like playing “what if”. We’ve all done it. There’s usually some repressed anger behind it. If you see a person going on and on, pressing a certain point, then there’s some anger at God for something in their life.

"Repressed anger", "there's some anger at God for something in their life" ???

Or maybe a simple disagreement between two people...maybe?

I doubt either one of us have anger toward God.

 

[Lamar]

In this whole thread, about 95% of the posters discount, the power of God to help you. I’m amazed there is absolutely no faith in God from these great expositors and great discussers and arguers.

Please explain "95% of the posters discount the power of God to help you."

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

The disobedient do not repent hence the label "disobedient".

smh

I was disobedient once. I then repented and became a believer, and in obedience called out to God

Jesus was obedient because of what He did, not what He believed. He and the Father are one.

Do you make this stuff up. or is this what you were taught. if you were taught this, from who?

The disobedient are lost because of their unrepentance.


Luke 13:3-5
King James Version

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

The above verses are not calls for belief but a call for action.

Its a call to repent and believe

Yes it is an action.

 

[Burn1986]

Please explain "95% of the posters discount the power of God to help you."

For Salvation: The only burden on a person is to call out to Jesus. Once you do, God does the rest. We can go on and on about obey, disobey, feel different, Law blah blah, faith, etc…
…But when we pray, call out, ask the best we can, God takes care of the rest, even if it’s sloppy.
1 Jn 3:20, Matt 19:26

 

[Shilohsfoal]

God is not bound to give the Holy Spirit because of belief or actions. This is the flaw in your logic.

God can both give and take away the Holy Spirit, it is His will.

A person may be gifted the Holy Spirit or have it taken away without their knowledge.

Judges 16:20
Then she cried, “Samson, the Philistines are here!” When he awoke from his sleep, he said, “I will escape as I did before and shake myself free.” But he did not know that the LORD had left him.



There is no other way to label this statement other than human conjecture.

False

First and foremost I never said God is bound to Baptise anyone in the holy spirit.It is by the grace of God that anyone recieves the spirit.Not by Works but by the grace of God.

Do you comprehend that?


Second.
No one is saved if they don't believe the gospel .This is the word of God.

Do you comprehend this.


Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.



And no,The word of God does not say someone must do cartwheels to be saved.They don't have to take a bath in water and they don't have to eat crackers and drink wine.
The verses above says they must believe.


Do you comprehend?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Please explain "95% of the posters discount the power of God to help you."

Please Explain your believe that God does not have the power to save without a common man performing an ancient ritual of washing In water.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I just got home from work I'm dirty and I stink but I bet the holy spirit inside of me doesn't care if I got dirty today.

A lot of Pharisees on this board would condemn me if I don't wash my hands before I eat though.

 

[Lamar]

I just got home from work I'm dirty and I stink but I bet the holy spirit inside of me doesn't care if I got dirty today.

A lot of Pharisees on this board would condemn me if I don't wash my hands before I eat though.

Your comments are immature.

 

[Lamar]

Please Explain your believe that God does not have the power to save without a common man performing an ancient ritual of washing In water.

Tell that to the blind man at the Pool of Siloam. He washed, he obeyed, he was healed.

If God commands it, do it.

Knock and the door will be opened.

But you insist on standing their repeating to yourself, "God can open the door without human hands"

How sad to stand at the door, hands folded with a stiff neck refusing to knock because of your pride.

This is your logic. This is the ditch that you can not see over.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Tell that to the blind man at the Pool of Siloam. He washed, he obeyed, he was healed.

If God commands it, do it.

Knock and the door will be opened.

But you insist on standing their repeating to yourself, "God can open the door without human hands"

How sad to stand at the door, hands folded with a stiff neck refusing to knock because of your pride.

This is your logic. This is the ditch that you can not see over.

You believe Jesus making the blind to see was the work of a common man?
Really,?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Your comments are immature.

Your faith in water is awesome.





"I have to pee"
Forest Gump

 

[Beckworth]

there is only two things essential for NT birth

1. The cross
2. Our faith in the cross.

nothing else is required.

Taking communion is commanded also. Yet that has nothign to do with whether a person is saved or not

All of God’s commandments are required for salvation. God does not give a “commandment” with the attitude that it doesn’t matter whether or not you obey it. If you tell your children to do something and they don’t do it, do you just not care? It’s ok with you for your children to ignore what you say? Really??
By the way, cominnion was the reason the disciples assembled each first day of the week—to remember His death and resurrection. Acts 20:7. And we still believe it is necessary and observe it. All of God’s commands are important and necessary.
1 Cor. 7:19–what matters is keeping the commandments of God.
John 14:15–If you love me keep my commandments.
John 15:14–You are my FRIENDS if you do what I say.
1 John 5:3–This is the love of God that we keep His commandments.
1 John 2:3–We KNOW HIM if we KEEP his commandments.
1 John 2:4–If you claim to know God, but don’t keep His commandments, you are a liar and the truth is not in you.”

 

[Yohanan]

Keeping the commandments and having faith in Jesus christ (Reveltation 14:12)

 

[Burn1986]

^^^”Keeping God’s commandments and…

“All of God’s commandments are required for salvation.”

Man, I have heard it all now. If this was true then the Pharisees, Saducees, and all the Jewish leaders who crucified Jesus would be saved. So bad

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

All of God’s commandments are required for salvation.

Yes, they are required if you want to save yourself.

But you better be perfect. As james said, stumbling in just one point will condemn you forever.

God does not give a “commandment” with the attitude that it doesn’t matter whether or not you obey it. If you tell your children to do something and they don’t do it, do you just not care? It’s ok with you for your children to ignore what you say? Really??

No he gives a command as with any law. To prove our guilt and charge us when we are guilty. Without a law. There is no proof of Guilt.

That was the purpose of the law. To shut our mouths, because all have sinned.

By the way, cominnion was the reason the disciples assembled each first day of the week—to remember His death and resurrection. Acts 20:7. And we still believe it is necessary and observe it. All of God’s commands are important and necessary.
1 Cor. 7:19–what matters is keeping the commandments of God.
John 14:15–If you love me keep my commandments.
John 15:14–You are my FRIENDS if you do what I say.
1 John 5:3–This is the love of God that we keep His commandments.
1 John 2:3–We KNOW HIM if we KEEP his commandments.
1 John 2:4–If you claim to know God, but don’t keep His commandments, you are a liar and the truth is not in you.”

But keeping them will not save you, they will not keep you saved, and you will nto lose salvation if you forget and screw up a command.

We are saved by Grace apart from works.

You want to ut yourself under law. Feel free. But again, you better be perfect. (I am sure you already failed to do this, so the law can only condemn you,, You better let it lead you to christ)

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Keeping the commandments and having faith in Jesus christ (Reveltation 14:12)

So have you ever sinned?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

^^^”Keeping God’s commandments and…

“All of God’s commandments are required for salvation.”

Man, I have heard it all now. If this was true then the Pharisees, Saducees, and all the Jewish leaders who crucified Jesus would be saved. So bad

yep

they thought they kept Gods commands also. Even when jesus tried to show them, they left sad..

 

[JBTN]

All of God’s commandments are required for salvation. God does not give a “commandment” with the attitude that it doesn’t matter whether or not you obey it. If you tell your children to do something and they don’t do it, do you just not care? It’s ok with you for your children to ignore what you say? Really??
By the way, cominnion was the reason the disciples assembled each first day of the week—to remember His death and resurrection. Acts 20:7. And we still believe it is necessary and observe it. All of God’s commands are important and necessary.
1 Cor. 7:19–what matters is keeping the commandments of God.
John 14:15–If you love me keep my commandments.
John 15:14–You are my FRIENDS if you do what I say.
1 John 5:3–This is the love of God that we keep His commandments.
1 John 2:3–We KNOW HIM if we KEEP his commandments.
1 John 2:4–If you claim to know God, but don’t keep His commandments, you are a liar and the truth is not in you.”

“And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭23‬-‭24‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1/1jn.3.23-24.KJV