Shabbat (Intent-- not Timing)
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So now we can worship other gods, bow to idols, vain His holy name break His holy Sabbath, covet, steal or break the least of these the opposite of what Jesus taught and lived for our example. Mat 5:19-30 John 15:10 1 John 2:6
The New Covenant was established on better promises Heb 8:6, not better or new laws as God’s law is perfect Psa 19:7 because God is perfect and you can’t make something that is perfect more perfect which is why God’s writes His law in our hearts and minds Heb 8:10 instead of deleting them and why its still a sin to break them Romans 7:7 breaking one is like breaking them all James 2:10-12.
Sad this is a popular teaching in most churches, but it was predicted Rev 12:17. God’s people keep God’s commandments through love and faith 1 John 5:3 Rom 3:31 Rev 14:122 which reconciles us back to Christ Rev 22:14
The New Covenant was established on better promises Heb 8:6, not better or new laws as God’s law is perfect Psa 19:7 because God is perfect and you can’t make something that is perfect more perfect which is why God’s writes His law in our hearts and minds Heb 8:10 instead of deleting them and why its still a sin to break them Romans 7:7 breaking one is like breaking them all James 2:10-12.
Sad this is a popular teaching in most churches, but it was predicted Rev 12:17. God’s people keep God’s commandments through love and faith 1 John 5:3 Rom 3:31 Rev 14:122 which reconciles us back to Christ Rev 22:14
So, the life you live is your own and not the life of Christ through you?
This is not about equality of power. This is about sameness of station. Either Christ lives through you or He does not. Since you preach what is blinding to the gospel you can only think of this from the position of a slave, like Lucifer, rather than a position of a son with the character of the Father in you.
This is not about equality of power. This is about sameness of station. Either Christ lives through you or He does not. Since you preach what is blinding to the gospel you can only think of this from the position of a slave, like Lucifer, rather than a position of a son with the character of the Father in you.
Yes, I do all of those things on the six days God gives us to do all our works and labors. Exo 20:9 On the seventh day Sabbath I set aside all secular work Isa 58:13 and dedicate the day to spend holy time with God. On the Sabbath my entire day is devoted to Him. Without Christ residing in us, none of us could keep His commandments. John 14:15-18. If we are breaking His law or hostile to it, it’s really not a good sign. Rom 8:7-8
You're free not to answer my questions, but if I was only interested in what I believe I wouldn't be online. Frankly, I'm interested in what you actually believe, but because you list scripture and apply it incorrectly the discussion is more difficult. It would be easier if you simply answered my questions and then look at the scripture to see if it actually supports it.
I believe it is necessary to have one's beliefs based on what scripture teaches. But believing what scripture actually teaches is foundational to proper belief. If one can't explain scripture in their own words do they really understand it?
I believe it is necessary to have one's beliefs based on what scripture teaches. But believing what scripture actually teaches is foundational to proper belief. If one can't explain scripture in their own words do they really understand it?
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The first day of the week is Sunday, which is the day that Christians traditionally gather for worship and rest in commemoration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ
. The Sabbath day, on the other hand, is the seventh day of the week, which is Saturday according to the way Israel counted time
. While the Sabbath day was given to Israel as a sign between themselves and God, Christians have entered into a permanent Sabbath rest in Christ, which is a state of rest and peace that surpasses the weekly Sabbath
. Therefore, Christians are not required to keep the weekly Sabbath according to the Fourth Commandment as they were under the Old Covenant
. The Sabbath day, on the other hand, is the seventh day of the week, which is Saturday according to the way Israel counted time
. While the Sabbath day was given to Israel as a sign between themselves and God, Christians have entered into a permanent Sabbath rest in Christ, which is a state of rest and peace that surpasses the weekly Sabbath
. Therefore, Christians are not required to keep the weekly Sabbath according to the Fourth Commandment as they were under the Old Covenant
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Please show me where I applied scripture incorrectly. It’s easy to make accusations, but another to prove it.
I’ll remind you where this started-you stated the Sabbath wasn’t about a particular day, when God in His own Words said it is about a particular day the seventh day Exo 20:10 . He both wrote and spoke it. Exo 20:10. I don’t believe I am the one applying scripture incorrectly as already demonstrated through scripture.
I’ll remind you where this started-you stated the Sabbath wasn’t about a particular day, when God in His own Words said it is about a particular day the seventh day Exo 20:10 . He both wrote and spoke it. Exo 20:10. I don’t believe I am the one applying scripture incorrectly as already demonstrated through scripture.
Sigh. No wonder we have this warning from Paul’s writing 2 Peter 3:16
Paul does not have the authority to countermand God’s commandments, nor did Paul as He was a servant of Christ and kept all of the commandments including the Sabbath commandments decades after the cross Acts 13:42-44 Acts 18:4
There is more than one Sabbath in scripture- Paul was careful to write the sabbath(s) he is referring to handwritten ordinances that have to do with food, drink, holy days also called sabbath(s) or feast days. Man cannot reverse God’s blessing Num 23:20 so we need a thus saith the Lord to reverse God’s Sabbath commanemnt. All of the thus saith the Lords on the Sabbath are for us to keep and not profane.
Paul does not have the authority to countermand God’s commandments, nor did Paul as He was a servant of Christ and kept all of the commandments including the Sabbath commandments decades after the cross Acts 13:42-44 Acts 18:4
There is more than one Sabbath in scripture- Paul was careful to write the sabbath(s) he is referring to handwritten ordinances that have to do with food, drink, holy days also called sabbath(s) or feast days. Man cannot reverse God’s blessing Num 23:20 so we need a thus saith the Lord to reverse God’s Sabbath commanemnt. All of the thus saith the Lords on the Sabbath are for us to keep and not profane.
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Wait. So you are working a job because you decided to do so on your own? The Lord did not deploy you there? And you bought and paid for your house, clothes, and belongings in your own strength?
"I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does."
You're living in the wrong economy. You're still living by the sweat of your brow.
"I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does."
You're living in the wrong economy. You're still living by the sweat of your brow.
have you ever read, "whatever you do, do it as though to the Lord"...?
wonder why that's in the Bible
does that commandment only apply once a week?
wonder why that's in the Bible
does that commandment only apply once a week?