TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!
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That question betrays your paucity of understanding. Of my position and the Scripture, to which my view aligns.. But yet you don't see that as an end to animal sacrifice
I refer you to the actual scholars such as @TheDivineWatermark
I seem to be mostly comic relief, and mostly lame most of the time.
I always wonder if Jesus flipping the tables over in the temple and calling it a house of thiefs, ment that was the end of that temple
Look man.....you are hopeless. Seriously. A lost cause.
You can only perform defibrillation so many times on a patient before they throw the sheet over the corpse. So my main intention in engaging with you is to prevent MORE eschatological heart attacks in the viewing audience who may be seduced into indulging in your artery-clogging heresies.
I think it was a display of righteous anger and a reminder to us under the new covenant of the need to continually do the same in ourselves.
I suspect it is to promote yourself and boost your ego. You are full of blather but can't answer simple questions. When you do answer, you hide behind a wall of text and can't even explain it in simple language. Further, you employ insulting language which is contrary to the law of love.
In the very recent past, I have asked you three simple questions. Crickets. If your heart were set to help people, you would be helping.
maybe but you know he did then go on to say he could tare it down. Obviously the Jews took that as meaning there temple.
And Christians feal he wasn't taking about that temple but I'm not sure.
I believe he was taking about two temples.
Meaning he was going to destroy there temple and build a new one.
Also we have to look at God's character here and personality.
His word demands authority and when he says something he means it.
The fact that he flipped the tables over
Called it a house of thiefs
Sent the Jews into exile
Abolished animal sacrifice
Replaced there temple with his temple
Replaced animal sacrifice with prayer sacrifice
All this authority says he ment what he ment.
No more animal sacrifice.
No more house of thiefs
His temple
His word his authority.
His new covenant
And answer provided (hundreds of times!) yet not heard is a well defined phenomenon Biblically.
And invariably end in disaster.
So rots of ruck and happy landings buddy.
I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying. I merely gave a couple of possibilities. The Bible doesn't actually say what His motivation was; only that the current practices weren't correct.
theres nicer ways to look at an ego buddy. @cv5 means we'll at heart buddy I know Him. You remind me of this clip I watch a while ago it's really interesting
well parables can open the door to many spiritual truths and prophecies to come to.
Just when you think you have them worked out a few years down the line something else could materialise,
It's best not to completely lean on your own interpretation I found, because I do see many parables as prophetic words too. I have pulled up two massive ones.
But then I need to examine it further as I'm instructed to interpret prophecy, but not lean on my own understanding.
In Luke 14 Christ was invited to a feast held in the home of a ruler of the Pharisees who may have ment well I think.
While the real reason of his invite was for the the Pharisees to watch Jesus in hope of finding something against him, But Jesus used the occasion to teach those present.
In Luke 14.15 the Jews believed only the Jews would belong to a the kingdom and enjoy the blessings of God's kingdom
Jesus corrected that miss interpretation
With the parable of the great supper
The parable teaches that the Jews would reject God's invitation and would find themselves outside the kingdom and outside his if his blessings
The main point of the parable was to teach the kingdom was open to all which as I hopefully hope, by now you would see that as the the beginnings of the great tribulation.
Because up to this stage all people on earth, there father was of the devil well most people anyhow.
So again this is another parable of prophecy
Of course to not all the people of the banquet where Pharisee. As the pharisee where religious leaders, so I guess the message was for all Jews.
so you see the parable to be about Old Testament isreals rejection of the messiah and the messiah therefore sending the gospel of the kingdom to all people beginning at Jerusalem ?
Are you this type of thing beginning to come to pass ?
“I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.
I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; a people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom, your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.
Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all. And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: that he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.”
Isaiah 65:1-9, 11-16 KJV
your seeing Israel’s repeated rejection of the ot prophets and then The messiah resulting in the gospel being opened up to all people now until the end ?
Also another inquiry what about the remnant of Israel that accepted Jesus and received the promise of the spirit you aren’t saying they are excluded right ?
i bet it’s just that you have a different opinion from those folks
Can you answer that be simple question ? where does the New Testament promise another temple before the end of the world ? It sure details the destruction of the one that stood in thier day nearly 2000 years ago but how come Jesus not any apostle ever says there will be a temple rebuilt in Jerusalem ?
I think that’s a really valid question as well as where does the Old Testament promise a temple other than the one God built would be rebuilt for a third time before the end of the world ?
i dont think anyone can show those scriptures it would have to be just an obscure verse and the. Someone’s long detailed I interpretation of what’s going to happen but the Bible just doesn’t say that I think that’s a valid argument to say it may not be going to be rebuilt given we are in a biblical discussion forum
surely if somethings coming it’s going to be clearly written in scripture like the rest of it is why wouldn’t there be any explainations in the Bible about the earthly temple that’s gonna be built in the end ?
i wish someone would show me those scriptures because if they are there , I’d like to know
Preventing the lunatics from running the asylum is likewise my intention.theres nicer ways to look at an ego buddy. @cv5 means we'll at heart buddy I know Him. You remind me of this clip I watch a while ago it's really interesting
Evidently you have been tossed into the psychiatric meat grinder a number of times?
You have my condolences. But try and escape their clutches if at all possible.
Families did not accompany soldiers, far too dangerous.
I never said the fort was small.
Currently, I am working on a refutation of the idea. The idea that the Atonia Fort occupied the entire temple mount.