10 Warning Signs of Cult Recruitment

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Beckie

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i do see it. but i also see what he was trying to convey. grant it, it's a rough attempt, but that is what he knows how to do. and if we overlook his ability to communicate and concentrate on the Biblical principle he is sharing, HE IS 10000000000% CORRECT!
But you dont grant me the same grace? Would you if i listed traumas in my life?
 
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because the Principles are TRUE and your offense of Him is keeping you from the Biblical Principles that are TRUE.

that's a narcissistic response all day long.
 

Beckie

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because the Principles are TRUE and your offense of Him is keeping you from the Biblical Principles that are TRUE.

that's a narcissistic response all day long.
You are suggesting others dont have sound principles? Maybe my approach to situations does not fit your standard... When we see a brother having problems are we not to bring him forward ?
 
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But you dont grant me the same grace? Would you if i listed traumas in my life?
i have 3 bullet wounds and one in my neck.
been in prison several times.
been left to die a few times.
live the rest of my life never being able to see my Father and tell him i loved him and miss him before he was buried because i was locked away.
lost everything twice and i mean everything.
homeless for over 6 months.
and if i listed it all, i'd be here for a long time.

he is in a different situation than anyone of us.

he is going blind while living with people who don't want him.

we know how this will turn out.
 

Beckie

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i have 3 bullet wounds and one in my neck.
been in prison several times.
been left to die a few times.
live the rest of my life never being able to see my Father buried because i was locked away.
lost everything twice and i mean everything.
homeless for over 6 months.
and if i listed it all, i'd be here for a long time.

he is in a different situation than anyone of us.

he is going blind while living with people who don't want him.

we know how this will turn out.
You and i disagree often over points but you do not live in self pity. You maybe better because of your life could draw him aside getting him to see how he is presenting himself.
 
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You and i disagree often over points but you do not live in self pity. You maybe better because of your life could draw him aside getting him to see how he is presenting himself.
NO, i can look back at every junction in my life and see where i denied God and ended up as i did.

but Blain, is preaching and teaching and knowing he's going blind and probably will be shipped away.

he sounds no different than someone like Elijah after making fun of 1,000's of Baal Prophets and calling down fire then went into hiding shaking in fear because JEZZY BELL said she wanted him dead.

i am not saying he is Elijah, either!
 
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Blain, knows his time is short.

i would bet it's kind of like when John the Baptist said about Jesus, i must decrease so He may increase.

john, knew, his days were numbered.
 
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i know Blain's time is short, so, I am going to honor what is left for him to offer.
 

JohnDB

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Sick, sick man. Glorified pimp, really. Convinced his "flock" he was the reincarnation of his father, since they had previously
believed that man was immortal and so were in shock and confused when he did. Thank God WJ is in jail where he belongs.
Oh if he was the only one. There's a bunch of them in FLDS....
The family of FLDS that was Cody Brown and a bunch of wives have all split up and children dispersed. But them sister wives are all angry with him.

There are plenty of others inside of FLDS that aren't like Cody Brown and his bunch....where family trees look like bushes because of the incest. Women handed out as chattel after being brainwashed their entire lives. Really nuts stuff. A few escape and try to heal from all the trauma.

Some cults have "country hopped " going on tour in South America where large houses are behind even larger walls.

Heavens Gate, Scientology, and Remnant Fellowship were not so focused on sex though....just the opposite. They focused on not having sex.

A few cults have been "discovered" in Canada. Brazil seems to be a popular destination for American cults. Dunno why but whatever eh?

Hillsong was by every appearance just a normal, albeit popular, church. However they did turn out to become a cult for a few.
I'm often wondering about Hillsong and how things changed. Does this happen in a lot of churches? Is that where the disgruntled come from because a few are used and abused? Why didn't anyone notice that a few people are exhibiting the signs of cult membership inside of their church. Get them some aftercare and etc....
 

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@HeIsHere Would you agree that MAGA Is a cult?
I think for those who follow Trump because of "cult of personality" are indeed in a movement that is cultish.

I reserve the noun "cult" for an organization where there is extreme psychological and emotional manipulation directly by the leader.

I do not see Trump exercising direct control, however people have allowed themselves to be overly influenced by him.
I think Trump's followers who are overly loyal lack good judgment rather than it stemming from his direct control.
 

Blain

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There's that self importance again....o_O

I've, and others have said nothing to indicate that we have lacked, are lacking, or will lack confidence in Jesus. In fact just the opposite...that because of the things you have said and the way you have treated us we have serious doubts about you actually having a personal relationship with Jesus. That you think you do but somehow have missed creating a relationship with Jesus who is alive but have instead are following a Jesus of your own creation based loosely on the one we know.

In case you REALLY wanted to know.

First, second and foremost rule when dealing with Jesus is:

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

And the most basic respect for God has not been evident to us in a single post you have made yet. Instead it seems more like you are selling voodoo services for obtaining power.

And I would caution you most seriously and strenuously that you stop before you hurt yourself by playing with what you flat out don't seem to understand at all. It won't be pleasant for you by a long shot. Misusing The Name, speaking for God when truly not, claiming to be "special" to God when not, and trying to touch/control/use what/whom belongs to God without His authorization.
All of these things individually, once upon a time, were deadly to those who did one...not lined up on top of each other this way.

Remember Simon Magnus? If not look him up....he tried the same stuff. It didn't work out for him.
Really? ok lets recount, you say you have said nothing to indicate that you are lacking yet instead of even trying to think about what I am saying all you do is slander talk down and ignore when I say plant the seeds of the kingdom. You say I don't know you but you all apprently know me yet you can't even be bothered to try to see God in anything I say.

You have a set mindset about me and so your blind to what I am saying. For instance we have the internet this means we have the most massive field ever given to plant the seeds of the kingdom to draw closer together to show the spirit of truth in the way we were called to do. People tend to show who they really are and what is in their hearts online there is a sense of protection behind a screen, I don't see you or anyone else going around trying to speak of the things that he has already said in scripture I don't see any of you having a drive to bring the kingdom here to get everyone to rededicate themselves to him I don't see any of you willing to do anything about the division in the body that is clear as day.

If you don't do any of this online you expect me to believe you do this offline? What are you laying on the line for him? do you walk into the fray into the unknown where you know that he is the only anchor you have because you know you won't be met with friendly arrows?

But you see this is why the religious spirit has overcome the body we don't go around with the sole purpose of spreading the kingdom we debate and argue, we don't go around acting on faith we go around acting on our theology and knowledge of scripture we don't see the internet as a field for the kingdom we scare people away from this place many are damaged and hurt and since none of you were going to do anything about it that is why he sent me.

He doesn't ask you to serve him he DEMANDS it, if he is just your savior and not your Lord then don't bother caliming I follow a Jesus of my own design because he even said you call me Lord but do not do what I say. What did he say? what was the mission he entrusted to us?


Jesus went around speaking of things that went against the religious society he was mocked slandered and named called. Check Jesus fought against demoic spirits rebuking them Check and yes this is something I have to do but they have no say in the matter the don't have a choice and even if I am not able that is when I say to them you will have to walk thrpough fire to get to me but first you have to get through Jesus good luck with that they never touch me.

Jesus went again the pharisees who also were knowledgable in scriptures and knowledge yet were blind to him and went after him and yes there is a pharisee spirit around here. Seems to me I am on the right track I am following Jesus and the thing is I actually get results.

He moved in with me I see him all the time he takes me into deep waters with him not just the written word of God I have the original source the real thing the living word of God. I don't know who he is to you but I made him my Lord if he says to say something I don't question him I speak it, if he says go somewhere I go if he says do something I do it. If you think you can do it better then get off your butt and get to work otherwise as I said kindly step aside there is work to be done.
 

Blain

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i have no idea about who is who or anyone on these Forums. but i do know from just paying attention since being here who is able to venture outside and be a part of the world and who cannot, is stuck in bed, or stuck and generally isolated. from my own experience, isolation brings about 2 options.
1. self pity whoa is me
2. you spend serious amounts of time with God.

more time, than the average person who is able to have a life outside a literal prison of walls.

i will never deny the reality that between every single one of us on these Forums, some are just way way way way way CLOSER to God than everyone else.

and you can normally tell who are the MORONS that are not as close to God.

you will always find them destroying those who are.



NOW:
i am not saying anyone in this thread is that Close to God.
but i am saying, I can tell WHO IS NOT!
That actually is why I think I am in the situation I am in, I love to spend all my time with him and when just the right worship song comes on I can't help but dance for him and I am always reaching my arms out trying to shoot as much glory to him as I can.

The joy and life that comes with true worship reveals everything it is the key to opening the floodgates. But my friend I didn't know you have been where I am in maybe you said it and I didn't see it but hey at least in isolation comes that closeness.
 

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You have a set mindset about me and so your blind to what I am saying.
You say you hear directly from God and He has given you messages we need to hear. That's all I need to know.
 

Blain

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look, you are just pissed off at him and clearly have been throwing a tantrum.
get over it!
he won't be here long!
I may not be here long he may intervene but deaths filthy fingers won't touch me if I pass away Jesus himself is taking me. And thank you for standing up for me it really does mean a lot. I know I am doing perfect but I will keep the course.
 

ResidentAlien

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But you see this is why the religious spirit has overcome the body
This has pretty much been your message from the get-go. The body has lost its way; the entire church has gone astray. We must listen to the voices of God's prophets to get on the right track. If you can't seen how this is a serious problem then I really don't know how to explain it to you.