problem related to praying in tongues

[The_Watchers_2017]

I'm not calling them liars.
I'm saying you're inconsistent in your interpretation of those two verses.

You have a great day, k?

No I was never inconsistent I was keeping you from turning the Verse into what it DOES NOT MEAN.

 

[VARob]

The Hebrew people ain't stupid

Agreed.

we are any time we change their meaning.

So stop doing it.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

People who change the meaning of God's Word are called liars.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

You changed the meaning to those Verses not me

 

[VARob]

You changed the meaning to those Verses not me

You're not consistent.

Here you claim "the Messiah = YHWH":

Jeremiah 23:6:

“In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely, and this is the name by which he will be called: ‘YHWH, Our Righteousness.’”

the Messiah = YHWH

Here you claim "Jerusalem means peace":

Jeremiah 33 claims same thing:
Jeremiah 33:16:

“In those days Judah will be saved, and Jerusalem will dwell securely. And this is the name by which it will be called: ‘YHWH, Our Righteousness.’”

The structure of the two verses is the same.
If you claim Jer 23:6 is saying that the Messiah = YHWH, then Jer 33:16 would be saying Jerusalem = YHWH.

I'm sorry you cannot see that..

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

You're not consistent.

Here you claim "the Messiah = YHWH":

Here you claim "Jerusalem means peace":

The structure of the two verses is the same.
If you claim Jer 23:6 is saying that the Messiah = YHWH, then Jer 33:16 would be saying Jerusalem = YHWH.

I'm sorry you cannot see that..

i don't care what you point out, no land is being called YHWH. you are just saying this to keep your false doctrine.


you and Jehova Witnesses BOTH say same thing here:


but the Sages and Rabbis say the God in these Verses is:

What does Jeremiah 33 16 mean?
In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety.


What is the name of God in the Bible Jeremiah 33 16?
YHWH, Our Righteousness

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

the HEBREW PEOPLE know this VERSE is God and Messiah!

you are literally calling them LIARS!

they know this VERSE better than you ever will!

 

[VARob]

i don't care what you point out, no land is being called YHWH.

Jeremiah 33:16:

“In those days Judah will be saved, and Jerusalem will dwell securely. And this is the name by which it will be called: ‘YHWH, Our Righteousness.’”

Have a great day!

 

[Cameron143]

You're not consistent.

Here you claim "the Messiah = YHWH":

Here you claim "Jerusalem means peace":

The structure of the two verses is the same.
If you claim Jer 23:6 is saying that the Messiah = YHWH, then Jer 33:16 would be saying Jerusalem = YHWH.

I'm sorry you cannot see that..

How did Jesus come to exist?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Jeremiah 33:16:

“In those days Judah will be saved, and Jerusalem will dwell securely. And this is the name by which it will be called: ‘YHWH, Our Righteousness.’”

Have a great day!

you are calling God a LIAR!
He gave this to Jeremiah and it was interpreted as : In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety.

and WHO will Keep them Safe and Save Judah?
YHWH, Our Righteousness

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

dude is straight calling God a Liar!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

irks me off

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

im calm now, you have 2 exact Verses exactly the SAME and because one has "it" that supposedly and suddenly spiritually means something different?

whenever has God wavered like that?
Never.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

you would do well there

You know I never tell a person they are not a Christian. Only two occasions I will say such a thing,

1. When a person is clearly an atheist and denying Christ
2. When a person is in a cult/heresy and denies the Word

I don't it lightly, it's not a charge I throw around because a person disagrees with me or what denomination I attend. I think it's a very thing to say and I don't say it out of malice. I don't play head games like you all do here in the BDF. Here are the facts;

1. Jesus Himself claimed to be God.
2. The Jews tried to stone Him for the blasphemy of claiming to be God.
3. Jesus accepted worship only due God.
4. Thomas called Him "My Lord and my God.

Those are Bible facts, there is no way to deny them, there in black and white. Jesus is God.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

enoch says countless thousands holy ones will come

jude says 10 thousands

does that make these Verses different because the Number of Holy Ones is different?

GIVE ME A BREAK!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Jesus is God's logos made flesh. Jesus Christ is a man.

Jesus became a man, for a time. How could Jesus never know sin if He was not deity? Not one person that walked this earth was ever a perfect human being, but Christ.

Jesus claimed to be God, you are calling Him a liar.

 

[VARob]

How did Jesus come to exist?

God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.

 

[VARob]

you are calling God a LIAR!

No, I'm pointing out your inconsistency.

 

[VARob]

Jesus became a man, for a time.

He's still a man, although he has been glorified and highly exalted by God.

How could Jesus never know sin if He was not deity? Not one person that walked this earth was ever a perfect human being, but Christ.

Jesus did not have the sin nature that the rest of us, being descended from Adam, have.

Jesus claimed to be God, you are calling Him a liar.

Sigh... I have never, and would never, call Jesus Christ a liar.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

No, I'm pointing out your inconsistency.

no, you are changing the entire meaning of a Verse over 1 word and saying I am inconsistent.
i have eyes and those in this thread.
stop blaming me for what you are doing.
that's a real narcissistic move.
one i will not back down from.