Anti-vaxxers are people too?

[gb9]

I don’t think so and that’s contrary to reality and evidence in the modern western civilization.
‘But I’d suggest that you should should take a trip to North Korea or Afghanistan and if you make it back alive you will be kissing the American soil when you land at the airport.

Try to appreciate things a little.

I don’t think so and that’s contrary to reality and evidence in the modern western civilization.
‘But I’d suggest that you should should take a trip to North Korea or Afghanistan and if you make it back alive you will be kissing the American soil when you land at the airport.

Try to appreciate things a little.

oh, i do appreciate it very much.

that is why i don't want to go any father down the path of it going away.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

can you link the study?

Here's the study

https://christianchat.com/natural-h...ine-wipes-out-antibodies.207396/#post-4919928

 

[GaryA]

The recent covid-19 scamdemic brought this belief into sharp focus for many likeminded people, but I noticed one strange thing very often when someone was speaking against the covid-19 "vaccines". Right at the start, he or she would begin with the disclaimer "I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but..." As if being an anti-vaxxer somehow gave one less credibility, or meant that one shouldn't have the same right to an opinion as other people, or something.

I think most people say that hoping that it will deflect the flak they know they will likely receive if they don't say it.

 

[ZNP]

Here's the study

https://christianchat.com/natural-h...ine-wipes-out-antibodies.207396/#post-4919928

Thank you, I was able to get the Pdf file and have sent that to my family.

 

[GaryA]

This is a good topic to bring up to those in a forum such as this. I just want to add to the base of information here for those who respond. It in no way casts shade on you Moses nor is intended to change the outcome of the survey. You are likely aware of it as I think you're better informed than the vast majority of TV viewers.

The term"anti-vaxxers" is a pejorative used to insult those who choose not to put their faith in the medical industrial complex. It has been a very effective technique used to demonize us to the general public who has little to no inclination to examine the evidence or history of the concoctions that have had more money spent pushing their drugs than any that I am aware of.
The C👁️A has used this technique as well to frame the natives they use to manipulate the populations of the world. The popular example is the term "conspiracy theory.". If you do not agree with the propaganda they send to the media, they label you as a"conspiracy theorist.". Not only do they send out press releases, but they also fill positions in major news outlets. See my thread on CNN RIP Brian Stelter in the "Conspiracy" forum. There are network anchors and behind the scenes employees of the corporation AND C👁️A. The drug companies work likewise as employers of the FDA and other agencies that cooperate with their profits.

Thank you for posting this - now I don't have to...

 

[ZNP]

I think most people say that hoping that it will deflect the flak they know they will likely receive if they don't say it.

It's not about receiving flak, didn't care less about that. It is knowing that this will be their first response and you want to eliminate that from the start.

I was at a protest held by teachers a year ago and was interviewed by the press. I didn't say this because I was a teacher and all teachers must be vaccinated with a number of shots before they can start working, so there was no need, the fact that I was a teacher eliminated that argument. Also I introduced myself as a science teacher who teaches about vaccines and immunity. I wanted people to understand that those who are scientists and who are vaccinated are seeing some very disturbing and troubling things with this vaccine. That was a year ago, today I'd hand them "The Body of Others" by Dr. Wolf, and other studies proving the vaccine is too risky.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Thank you for posting this - now I don't have to...

That's great!

Here's some more.

https://christianchat.com/natural-h...ine-wipes-out-antibodies.207396/#post-4919928

 

[Moses_Young]

I agree with Eli1, you had a choice. You could retire, resign and move. NYC was probably the most extreme location in the US for mandates but there were other states that offered real freedom, it was easy to move from NYC to these locations since a crummy house in NY sells for what a really nice house in one of these states sells for. Plenty of jobs. Enough with the Humpty Dumpty Christians. Take up your cross and follow the Lord. I am very happy I did that.

But the problem is, the same rules should apply for all. When women working for politicians, for example, fall out and complain they were forced to provide sexual favours to said corrupt politicians, in order to keep their jobs, it is viewed as force/coercion (which it is). To claim that people whose livelihoods were threatened with the vaxx were not forced/coerced is inconsistent with the case law already established and the justice system in which we live. It's an even more wicked society that keeps inventing new rules to permit its own evil.

 

[GaryA]

Thank you for posting this - now I don't have to...

That's great!

The reason I said that is - from the moment I read the first sentence of the OP, I was thinking that an explanation about the intentional derogatory use of the word 'antivaxxer' was definitely in order...

And, since you did such a good job of that, I decided that I did not need to write a post about it.

I wanted to make sure @Moses_Young understood that before the next time he made a statement like that.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The reason I said that is - from the moment I read the first sentence of the OP, I was thinking that an explanation about the intentional derogatory use of the word 'antivaxxer' was definitely in order...

Unintentional....true.
He didn't mean it in a derogatory way as we are on the same page of course. It is a term originally used to bring pressure against those who refrain. I never let it bother me though. In group settings, I enjoy the opportunity to speak with health care workers about the subject. However, a lot of people are timid about it and some cave to pressure. That's what bothers me most.

 

[iamsoandso]

Oh, oh, I know this one! Because Pfizer contributed to your campaign.

Yep they should have been smarter and took money from Merck like Rick Perry and the Republican party did and then maybe adult stem cell surgery back when nobody was watching... see healthcare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry

 

[GaryA]

Unintentional....true.
He didn't mean it in a derogatory way as we are on the same page of course. It is a term originally used to bring pressure against those who refrain.

I was strictly talking about those who "invented" the [use of the] word - not @Moses_Young - i.e. - the word was "invented" to be intentionally derogatory.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I was strictly talking about those who "invented" the [use of the] word - not @Moses_Young - i.e. - the word was "invented" to be intentionally derogatory.

No worries. That's what I thought.

 

[Moses_Young]

I was strictly talking about those who "invented" the [use of the] word - not @Moses_Young - i.e. - the word was "invented" to be intentionally derogatory.

Interesting. Then the CIA did a poorer job on the term "anti-vaxxer" than they did on the term "conspiracy-theorist". Although, these last 2 years, even the phrase "conspiracy-theorist" is something of a compliment. Conspiracy-theorist - someone who keeps getting his narrative proven true.

I actually didn't know that about "anti-vaxxer". Perhaps because I only became an anti-vaxxer some 12 years ago. Coincidentally (or not!) I also became something of a conspiracy-theorist about 12 years ago. (But I don't introduce myself as a conspiracy-theorist!)

 

[PennEd]

SAFE AND EFFECTIVE!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569786899476189184

 

[wolfwint]

As most of you would know by now, I'm a proud anti-vaxxer. That is to say, I'm not against injectable prophylactics per se, but I've never come across one where I've thought the benefits are worth the risks. And I don't expect I ever shall.

The recent covid-19 scamdemic brought this belief into sharp focus for many likeminded people, but I noticed one strange thing very often when someone was speaking against the covid-19 "vaccines". Right at the start, he or she would begin with the disclaimer "I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but..." As if being an anti-vaxxer somehow gave one less credibility, or meant that one shouldn't have the same right to an opinion as other people, or something.

I noted when the government, the Lame Stream Media or the other pharmaceutical stooges pushing the covid-19 vaxxes were trying to sell their snake-oil, they didn't lead with the statement "I'm not on the payroll of Big Pharma, but..."

So what gives? Anti-vaxxers are people, too? Right?

There is no difference between people who take a vaccine and people which dont. Except the one are vaccined and the others are not. We should push it not to an question of beeing a human, if someone is vaccined ore not vaccined. To be vaccined or not is an decision everybody has to wear the consequences. How ever they look like.
And special among Christians there should be no twist in this matter. The vaccined will go in the same way to heaven then an unvaccined person.

 

[GaryA]

Interesting. Then the CIA did a poorer job on the term "anti-vaxxer" than they did on the term "conspiracy-theorist". Although, these last 2 years, even the phrase "conspiracy-theorist" is something of a compliment. Conspiracy-theorist - someone who keeps getting his narrative proven true.

I actually didn't know that about "anti-vaxxer". Perhaps because I only became an anti-vaxxer some 12 years ago. Coincidentally (or not!) I also became something of a conspiracy-theorist about 12 years ago. (But I don't introduce myself as a conspiracy-theorist!)

I don't introduce myself with either of those terms...

I have been known to say:

"I don't deal in/with conspiracy theory - I deal in/with conspiracy fact!"

 

[GaryA]

SAFE AND EFFECTIVE!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569786899476189184

YEP --- there is no doubt in my mind that the word 'natural' is THE most abused word in the English language today...

If anyone has any doubt - perhaps they have not been keeping up with what is printed on food container/packaging labels...

Weeelll - okay - it may not be number 1 - but, for sure, it is up there with 'truth', 'love', and a few other such words.

 

[ZNP]

YEP --- there is no doubt in my mind that the word 'natural' is THE most abused word in the English language today...

What about Circle back?

What about New Normal?

 

[GaryA]

What about Circle back?

What about New Normal?

Nope - can't/doesn't hold a candle to the abuse, misuse, and [false] redefinition of the word 'natural' today... (my opinion)