Anti-vaxxers are people too?

[Eli1]

Yeah

They just threaten you to lose your job, prohibit you from going to an event, a restaurant, a school, travel, get needed surgery, etc....

But thank God they don't force ya!

Yes, that is not forcing you.
You made a choice and they made a choice.
‘Everyone stays in their bubble and everybody is happy.

 

[Moses_Young]

Yes, that is not forcing you.
You made a choice and they made a choice.
‘Everyone stays in their bubble and everybody is happy.

Actually, coercion is considered force.

 

[Eli1]

Actually, coercion is considered force.

Good sir, do you want to force your no-vaccine mandate to people who want it?

 

[Moses_Young]

Good sir, do you want to force your no-vaccine mandate to people who want it?

I don't believe there's such thing as a "no-vaccine mandate". All that needs to be done is to treat crime as crime. You give someone a vaccine and it causes death, you get dealt with as a murderer in court. You get found guilty as a murderer, you go to the chair, or the gallows, or the guillotine. It's simple. There needs be no "no-vaccine mandate".

 

[Eli1]

I don't believe there's such thing as a "no-vaccine mandate". All that needs to be done is to treat crime as crime. You give someone a vaccine and it causes death, you get dealt with as a murderer in court. You get found guilty as a murderer, you go to the chair, or the gallows, or the guillotine. It's simple. There needs be no "no-vaccine mandate".

Yes, do you want to force this EXACT view for those who want to take the vaccine?

 

[Moses_Young]

Yes, do you want to force this EXACT view for those who want to take the vaccine?

If people want to take the vaccine, that is their choice. If these people are murdered, that doesn't excuse the murderer of his crimes, and he should be put on trial.

 

[Eli1]

If people want to take the vaccine, that is their choice. If these people are murdered, that doesn't excuse the murderer of his crimes, and he should be put on trial.

All right you’re allowing for some freedom of choice there which is good enough.
Remember God has given us free will.

 

[PennEd]

Yes, that is not forcing you.
You made a choice and they made a choice.
‘Everyone stays in their bubble and everybody is happy.

So YOU'RE definition of forced is what exactly?

Having 3 gestapo hold you down while a fourth injects you with the gene therapy?

 

[ZNP]

Good sir, do you want to force your no-vaccine mandate to people who want it?

What? LOL. How do you force a "non mandate"? If you want it, go get it.

 

[ZNP]

So YOU'RE definition of forced is what exactly?

Having 3 gestapo hold you down while a fourth injects you with the gene therapy?

I agree with Eli1, you had a choice. You could retire, resign and move. NYC was probably the most extreme location in the US for mandates but there were other states that offered real freedom, it was easy to move from NYC to these locations since a crummy house in NY sells for what a really nice house in one of these states sells for. Plenty of jobs. Enough with the Humpty Dumpty Christians. Take up your cross and follow the Lord. I am very happy I did that.

 

[Eli1]

So YOU'RE definition of forced is what exactly?

Having 3 gestapo hold you down while a fourth injects you with the gene therapy?

Yes that’s exactly my definition.

That is why earlier I used words like Dictatorship and Old-School monarchy.

Present day places like North Korea or extreme Muslim states where they shoot you on sight for not following their dogma or for offending the King’s ego.

I also said Thank God we don’t live in places like those.

 

[Eli1]

What? LOL. How do you force a "non mandate"? If you want it, go get it.

This question was asked to find out his tolerance level to things that he doesn’t like.

 

[Dude653]

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[HealthAndHappiness]

As most of you would know by now, I'm a proud anti-vaxxer. That is to say, I'm not against injectable prophylactics per se, but I've never come across one where I've thought the benefits are worth the risks. And I don't expect I ever shall.

The recent covid-19 scamdemic brought this belief into sharp focus for many likeminded people, but I noticed one strange thing very often when someone was speaking against the covid-19 "vaccines". Right at the start, he or she would begin with the disclaimer "I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but..." As if being an anti-vaxxer somehow gave one less credibility, or meant that one shouldn't have the same right to an opinion as other people, or something.

I noted when the government, the Lame Stream Media or the other pharmaceutical stooges pushing the covid-19 vaxxes were trying to sell their snake-oil, they didn't lead with the statement "I'm not on the payroll of Big Pharma, but..."

So what gives? Anti-vaxxers are people, too? Right?

Here's another story based on the New England Journal of Medicine.
If anyone would be biased for these lethal injections it would be them. The published study might surprise someone.
The "vax" is 98 TIMES (X) MORE LIKELY to HARM THAN TO HELP, to put it in layman's terms for detractors not into science.


https://theinfowar.tv/watch?id=631faedb4c745b6228e57160

 

[ZNP]

Here's another story based on the New England Journal of Medicine.
If anyone would be biased for these lethal injections it would be them. The published study might surprise someone.
The "vax" is 98 TIMES (X) MORE LIKELY to HARM THAN TO HELP, to put it in layman's terms for detractors not into science.


https://theinfowar.tv/watch?id=631faedb4c745b6228e57160

can you link the study?

 

[TheNarrowPath]

Good news! In NZ they have ended most of the mandates as of last night (Sept 12), so mask wearing is only applicable in hospitals, pharmacies and nursing homes. The rest of the country no longer need to wear a mask or are required to get the jabs unless they want to or they fall in that vulnerable group.
I never saw myself as an anti-vaxxer as I had the vaccines as a child. I saw myself as a pro choicer. But I get your OP Moses, Ive met people from my church, even my own family members have dismissed what I had to say because according to them, why would the government lie?

 

[TheNarrowPath]

Anti-vaxxers are like the vegan who can't go 5 minutes without mentioning it that he's vegan.
I get it. You didn't want to take the backs for your own personal reasons but stop being all annoying and preachy to the people who did choose to take the vaccine

its the other way round. the pro vax side are the ones with all the advertisements in retail stores, businesses, bus stops..you name it they are the ones getting preachy. in fact most who did not want the vax kept silent from all the pro vaxxers who drummed it in to them, hounded them that it was their duty for the common good of humanity. the pro vaxxers are the ones who said hey no jab no job.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

can you link the study?

I'm ready for dinner right now, but this should be the same ballpark and get you close.
https://www.nejm.org/medical-research/coronavirus

 

[gb9]

Yes that’s exactly my definition.

That is why earlier I used words like Dictatorship and Old-School monarchy.

Present day places like North Korea or extreme Muslim states where they shoot you on sight for not following their dogma or for offending the King’s ego.

I also said Thank God we don’t live in places like those.

and how you get places like that is doing what the government " suggests ", because the more that follow the " suggestion" then the suggesting stops and what you stated begins to happen.

 

[Eli1]

and how you get places like that is doing what the government " suggests ", because the more that follow the " suggestion" then the suggesting stops and what you stated begins to happen.

I don’t think so and that’s contrary to reality and evidence in the modern western civilization.
‘But I’d suggest that you should should take a trip to North Korea or Afghanistan and if you make it back alive you will be kissing the American soil when you land at the airport.

Try to appreciate things a little.