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ZNP · Aug 5, 2022

So then, if I understand correctly, the answer to the question is "yes, that is him, however, he has been misrepresented by the mainstream media". Did I get that correct?

He did not justify the mass shooting, he didn't rejoice in people being murdered, but he has not compromised with the word of God condemning sins of the flesh as sins. As he speaks from Romans he also teaches that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and everyone needs to repent of their sins and be washed in the precious blood of Jesus to be cleansed from the stain of the sin.

Is that correct or have I misrepresented his position?

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

ZNP said:

No.
The most important thing is that we don't come to Christ with our own repentance from sins or any such works.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast."
Ephesians 2

This is his testimony of Christ and his view on salvation. A queer or rapist would need to get saved the same way as anyone else. Same with a murderer.

Bluesproverb · Aug 5, 2022

HealthAndHappiness said:

He preached to his church against pedophilia and used it as an example that at least they wouldn't be molesting any children.
He did not invite violence toward them or justify the crime though. He made it clear that is the responsibility of a just government after due process as a capital crime. That used to be the law of the land believe it or not.

I'm the last person on this forum to defend sodomites. If someone thinks that they shouldn't listen to him preach the gospel for preaching against the queers, that's ok with me. They can attend a United whatever rainbow flag safe space church if they want. I don't believe you do,. In a forum this size there's a couple others here that probably wear Avon pink lace and call themselves Mr. Cinderella.

I have witnessed to homosexuals and I image Brother Anderson presented the gospel to more LBTPQ+++ than all of this forum put together including me.
I am an open prejudiced hetero-normal man who does not like queers. I'm out of the closet on this forum about that. However, I will witness to them if opportunities exist and they want to hear about the Lord.
I can give you half a dozen good reasons why, so I'm not losing sleep over a Baptist preacher's comments that offended a bunch of freaks and the 6:00 news.
I've had more important differences with preachers than that.

What use to be the law of the land? Sodomy was a capital punishment offense in America?

Bluesproverb · Aug 5, 2022

ZNP said:

No, you've summed it up well.

Keep in mind the Pulse nightclub massacre claimed 50 lives, and in addition injured 53 people.

Tempe Pastor in Orlando for Anniversary of Pulse Shooting: Get AIDS and Die
June 21, 2019

He also has a sermon on YouTube wherein he says church nurseries are unbiblical. He holds a baby on his hip during the sermon.

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

TruthSeekerJG said:

I think this is a good place to start.
Do you own a little ground, perhaps a small yard? If so, that's a blessing. If not, there are other options.
I would bookmark this and watch one per day or week, but set a schedule for the classes and decide which will work for you. It's not all going to apply, but some will.

I believe that health, skills and motivation are more important than the things money can buy. These are all important including money, but I would start with skills. Most of my information is in hard copy book form, photographs and notes from my herbalist / wild edibles mentor about local plants.
If the sun flare pics say the grids going down and they flip the switch, nobody will be able to access money or store transactions. Gas will be unavailable. You will need food and water. You can bundle up in the cold, but pipes will freeze. Pumps won't pump city water. There are a handful of immediate considerations. You will need to have a winter source of carbs. Game alone can't sustain your family. Most ares areas too populated and that food source will go quickly. Think food forest. Perennial food sources supplemented by annual gardening.
Then food storage is a skill that must be learned.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdXQQCQJsuNqKT1UI2st15Q

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Nurseries...I saw that one.
Did you listen to it?
I think that is very unusual, so I ask myself, Is that a heresy?

ZNP · Aug 5, 2022

HealthAndHappiness said:

I am listening to the video you gave me and it seems that I did understand correctly and you did not. Perhaps you should try listening a second time.

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Bluesproverb said:

That story would have offended him.....they called him "Reverend."

cv5 · Aug 5, 2022

Bluesproverb said:

The West.......

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

ZNP said:

That is a gospel presentation where he defines the gift from God being everlasting life. The issues about sins are:
1. We have all sinned
2. Jesus paid for All sins....
3. We are not saved by works.
Works include sacraments, trying to keep the laws, trying to not sin, giving up bad habits or sins, etc.
4. We are already condemned without doing anything that would be considered REALLY BAD, like a crime.
5. God requires us to make Jesus the Object of our faith.

The verses are read or quoted in the video.
That is for anyone who has committed any number of sins. Same message.
I never do like some do and try to get someone to promise to serve God, make commitments, give their lives to Christ, because those are considered works. They are unacceptable replacements for what Christ accomplished all by Himself.

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Bluesproverb said:

Keep in mind that over 3,000 little helpless babies lives were claimed by doctors with pliers and various tools who ripped off their little fingers and feet and skinned them alive every day of every year for a lot of years in America.

What would upset Jesus more, innocent babies who never sinned yet, being slaughtered in torturous ways that's beyond our imagination, or people who He said are worthy of death for the type of sins they commit? I'm not justifying some guy doing that to anyone like happened at the queer bar. That was a crime and there are already laws against that.
I'm not going to virtue signal either as if I'm holier than God Who smoked whole cities like that club. I don't waste my time and emotional energy on morally depraved people. I'd rather lead them to Christ without asking their sins for that month.
If I decide to cry for a victim it will be the Holocaust of innocent babies.

Bluesproverb · Aug 5, 2022

HealthAndHappiness said:

Keep in mind that over 3,000 little helpless babies lives were claimed by doctors with pliers and various tools who ripped off their little fingers and feet and skinned them alive every day of every year for a lot of years in America.

What would upset Jesus more, innocent babies who never sinned yet, being slaughtered in torturous ways that's beyond our imagination, or people who He said are worthy of death for the type of sins they commit? I'm not justifying some guy doing that to anyone like happened at the queer bar. That was a crime and there are already laws against that.
I'm not going to virtue signal either as if I'm holier than God Who smoked whole cities like that club. I don't waste my time and emotional energy on morally depraved people. I'd rather lead them to Christ without asking their sins for that month.
If I decide to cry for a victim it will be the Holocaust of innocent babies.

That's a non sequitur.

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Bluesproverb said:

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Non sequitur

Bluesproverb · Aug 5, 2022

HealthAndHappiness said:

Thank you for the history lesson.😊

You're aware that Sodomy isn't exclusive to homosexual sex,right?

Bluesproverb · Aug 5, 2022

HealthAndHappiness said:

I've known lawyers like that. 😄

ZNP · Aug 5, 2022

HealthAndHappiness said:

That is a gospel presentation where he defines the gift from God being everlasting life. The issues about sins are:
1. We have all sinned
2. Jesus paid for All sins....
3. We are not saved by works.
Works include sacraments, trying to keep the laws, trying to not sin, giving up bad habits or sins, etc.
4. We are already condemned without doing anything that would be considered REALLY BAD, like a crime.
5. God requires us to make Jesus the Object of our faith.

The verses are read or quoted in the video.
That is for anyone who has committed any number of sins. Same message.
I never do like some do and try to get someone to promise to serve God, make commitments, give their lives to Christ, because those are considered works. They are unacceptable replacements for what Christ accomplished all by Himself.

How is that any different from what I said?

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Bluesproverb said:

The Bible defines it in a bunch of passages.
Genesis 19
Judges 19
Romans 1
Leviticus 18 and 20 come to mind.

I don't know what dictionary dot com defines it as it any contemporary definitions. It's possibly like the 30 some genders of face book. I don't know?

Goodnight sisters and brothers.
Time to meditate upon the Psalms.
Perhaps some of David's prayers. 😄

HealthAndHappiness · Aug 5, 2022

Moses_Young said:

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Remind me to give you the Eden movie on gardening.

Sub to this channel and bookmark.

wolfwint · Aug 6, 2022

ZNP said:

Yes you see it wrong. The Bible never says to obey humans, it says to obey the authority. The ultimate authority is God. As a result when Peter was charged not to preach in the name of Jesus he asked "is it better to listen to you or to God". If man is commanding you to do something and God is commanding something else then of course, you listen to God.

This is why I reference the Nuremberg laws concerning the vaccine. These laws trump any national or state regulation.

So, Romans 13, 1- 2 belongs not to the bible?

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