Did Jesus died on Good Friday and rise Sunday, first day of the week?

[ewq1938]

John 2:19 Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

and:

Mark 8:30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

and:

Mark 8:30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Either the Lord himself is a liar or you are.

 

[ewq1938]

Either the Lord himself is a liar or you are.

Grow up.

 

[Inquisitor]

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

The only reconciliation is to have a preparation day in between the two Sabbaths.

Crucifixion on Wednesday...a day of preparation.
Thursday an annual high sabbath.
Friday a preparation day when the women buy and prepare spices.
Saturday the weekly sabbath.
Sunday the women come to the tomb with the spices to find it empty.

Three days and three nights. No partial days.

That is not the only reconciliation you need to implement.

The problems with your elaborate chronology are many.

Here is a verse that states that Jesus rose on early on Sunday morning.

Mark 16:9
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

That verse declares that Jesus did not rise on the Sabbath.

You must have Jesus rising on the sabbath day, otherwise, you have got yourself a fourth day resurrection.

 

[Webers.Home]

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Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer
many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and
scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

The Greek preposition translated "after" is terribly ambiguous. It can mean
not only after but also "among" i.e. within three days and/or three days
later.

Anyway, your one reference is outnumbered by eleven in post No.59 that
indicate Mark 8:31 is best understood to mean during the third day rather than
after the third day was completely over and done.
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[Inquisitor]

Or after 3 days as Christ said:

Mark 8:30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

The resurrection can never occur after three days.

Jesus was always risen on the third day according to so many verses.

That third day that Jesus had risen is always on the first day of the week.

Peter
Mark 16:9
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

Paul
1 Corinthians 15:4
And that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to point out to His disciples that it was necessary for Him to go to Jerusalem and to suffer many things from the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and to be killed, and to be raised up on the third day.

Matthew 17:23
And they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day. And they were deeply grieved.

Luke 9:22
The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised on the third day.

You need a verse that states that Jesus had risen on the Sabbath. That is the bare minimum you need to support your claim.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Grow up.

Give up.

 

[Inquisitor]

The whole Bible applies to the nation of Israel and then the stranger. You have been bless with the prophecy of Daniel pretty much full break down. Now it's always more to learn and to understand concerning this, but for the most part this is it.

You may need to be more accurate in the way you read the scripture.

The Gentiles who live, reside, amongst the people of Israel (sojourner) are considered members of the nation of Israel.

“Sojourner” is the frequent translation of the Hebrew word 'ger'. This Hebrew term convey the basic idea that a person is residing, either temporarily or permanently in Israel.

Gentile nations are not members of that old covenant between God and Israel.

God instructed Israel to destroy the seven nations surrounding Israel. Trust me, those nations are not covenant nations.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon the holy city

That verse in Daniel does not mention Gentile nations.

I am not aware of the inclusion of any other nation in that old covenant.

 

[Inquisitor]

The true, Biblical calendar is 364 days. 52 weeks of 7 days. 2 months of 30 days followed by one month of 31 days.
That means that the Passover not only falls of the 14th of Abib (not the Babylonian Nissan) but it is always on our Tuesday.
The books of Enoch and Jubilees attest to it. They were used as canon by the exiled Sons of Zadoch, the legitimate Levite priests (by their own self-identification). In Jesus' time they were located at Bethabara (Hebrew= Betharaba) (Arabic = Qumran). This is the Northern point of the Judean wilderness and, if one is in Galilee, it is located "beyond the Jordan (valley)".

You cannot get to 364 days using lunar months. The number of days in a lunar month are 29 or 30 days. Without adding days to match up with the seasons, from memory, I am sure, it's only 360 days in the average year.

We know that each month started when the new moon was sighted.

Your stuck with a 360 day Hebrew calendar.

 

[Webers.Home]

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Mark 14:12 King James Version (KJV) And the first day of unleavened bread,
when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou
that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

That passage can be a bit confusing for folks unaware that the seven-day
feast of Unleavened Bread (a.k.a. Passover) consists of a total of eight days.

The "first day" is when all the lambs are slaughtered and roasted with fire,
ready to eat by sunset; which is when the seven-day part of the feast kicks
off seeing as how the Jews' holy days begin and end with sunset.

In other words: the "first day" isn't a holy day. In point of fact it is a very
busy day because of all the preparations that have to be made for dinner
that night; which includes a witch hunt (so to speak) for any and all
leavened bread in the Jews' homes.
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[Webers.Home]

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While the Jews were killing their lambs that year, the Romans were
simultaneously killing the lamb of God due to the Jews' religious calendar
running late.

I'm guessing that God kept mum about the error because it was important
to Him that Jesus be slain during the Jews' preparations for Passover rather
than Jesus' preparations.
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[Carry_Your_Name]

You cannot get to 364 days using lunar months. The number of days in a lunar month are 29 or 30 days. Without adding days to match up with the seasons, from memory, I am sure, it's only 360 days in the average year.

We know that each month started when the new moon was sighted.

Your stuck with a 360 day Hebrew calendar.

Speaking of a 360-day calendar, did they add 5 or 6 additional days every year, or an additional month every 6th and 40th year?

 

[ewq1938]

The resurrection can never occur after three days.

Then why did Christ say he would resurrect AFTER three days. There's another verse where people who had heard him say that repeat it to someone else.

You need a verse that states that Jesus had risen on the Sabbath. That is the bare minimum you need to support your claim.

It's not my claim. Christ claimed it. I merely quoted what he said.

Also, I don't need a verse saying he rose on Sabbath, but that he rose on the day after the Sabbath:

Mar_8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Mar_16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Do you disagree with what Mark has written?

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Then why did Christ say he would resurrect AFTER three days. There's another verse where people who had heard him say that repeat it to someone else.



It's not my claim. Christ claimed it. I merely quoted what he said.

Also, I don't need a verse saying he rose on Sabbath, but that he rose on the day after the Sabbath:

Mar_8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Mar_16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Do you disagree with what Mark has written?

Jesus rose on the third day of the three days, and "after THOSE three days", which means from Monday and onward, he was already risen.

 

[Inquisitor]

Speaking of a 360-day calendar, did they add 5 or 6 additional days every year, or an additional month every 6th and 40th year?

Of course, there are conflicting versions regarding how many days were added and when. A solar year is slightly over 365 days. So they would need to add 5 days a year or ten days every second year. To keep in step with the planting and harvesting. The scripture is not clear on this point.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Of course, there are conflicting versions regarding how many days were added and when. A solar year is slightly over 365 days. So they would need to add 5 days a year or ten days every second year. To keep in step with the planting and harvesting. The scripture is not clear on this point.

It was possible that such a 360-day prophetic calendar was in use. Check this out.

https://360calendar.com/

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus rose on the third day of the three days, and "after THOSE three days", which means from Monday and onward, he was already risen.

Mark says Jesus rose after Saturday, early on Sunday. That obviously contradicts the other gospels. I proposed a solution so there is no contradiction.

Killed Wednesday, buried at the very moment Thursday happened, Friday and Saturday, rising exactly when it was both the 7th day and the 1st day. I know our human brains thinks that is impossible but I believe it is fully possible for God to do which means "on the third day" and "after three days" are not contradictions.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Mark says Jesus rose after Saturday, early on Sunday. That obviously contradicts the other gospels. I proposed a solution so there is no contradiction.

Killed Wednesday, buried at the very moment Thursday happened, Friday and Saturday, rising exactly when it was both the 7th day and the 1st day. I know our human brains thinks that is impossible but I believe it is fully possible for God to do which means "on the third day" and "after three days" are not contradictions.

It is impossible because it's against Mosaic law. Criminals cannot be left overnight, so Jesus must be buried on the same day.

 

[ewq1938]

It is impossible because it's against Mosaic law. Criminals cannot be left overnight, so Jesus must be buried on the same day.

He was buried when the day changed in the evening. No law was broken.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

He was buried when the day changed in the evening. No law was broken.

"After three days" simply means he'll be alive again after three days, the timing of his resurrection was the beginning of the THIRD day. The nicene creed states, "The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures." Any claim deviates from that is erroneous.