Did Jesus died on Good Friday and rise Sunday, first day of the week?
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That is not the only reconciliation you need to implement.
The problems with your elaborate chronology are many.
Here is a verse that states that Jesus rose on early on Sunday morning.
Mark 16:9
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
That verse declares that Jesus did not rise on the Sabbath.
You must have Jesus rising on the sabbath day, otherwise, you have got yourself a fourth day resurrection.
The problems with your elaborate chronology are many.
Here is a verse that states that Jesus rose on early on Sunday morning.
Mark 16:9
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
That verse declares that Jesus did not rise on the Sabbath.
You must have Jesus rising on the sabbath day, otherwise, you have got yourself a fourth day resurrection.
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The Greek preposition translated "after" is terribly ambiguous. It can mean
not only after but also "among" i.e. within three days and/or three days
later.
Anyway, your one reference is outnumbered by eleven in post No.59 that
indicate Mark 8:31 is best understood to mean during the third day rather than
after the third day was completely over and done.
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The Greek preposition translated "after" is terribly ambiguous. It can mean
not only after but also "among" i.e. within three days and/or three days
later.
Anyway, your one reference is outnumbered by eleven in post No.59 that
indicate Mark 8:31 is best understood to mean during the third day rather than
after the third day was completely over and done.
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The resurrection can never occur after three days.
Jesus was always risen on the third day according to so many verses.
That third day that Jesus had risen is always on the first day of the week.
Peter
Mark 16:9
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
Paul
1 Corinthians 15:4
And that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to point out to His disciples that it was necessary for Him to go to Jerusalem and to suffer many things from the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and to be killed, and to be raised up on the third day.
Matthew 17:23
And they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day. And they were deeply grieved.
Luke 9:22
The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised on the third day.
You need a verse that states that Jesus had risen on the Sabbath. That is the bare minimum you need to support your claim.
Jesus was always risen on the third day according to so many verses.
That third day that Jesus had risen is always on the first day of the week.
Peter
Mark 16:9
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
Paul
1 Corinthians 15:4
And that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to point out to His disciples that it was necessary for Him to go to Jerusalem and to suffer many things from the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and to be killed, and to be raised up on the third day.
Matthew 17:23
And they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day. And they were deeply grieved.
Luke 9:22
The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised on the third day.
You need a verse that states that Jesus had risen on the Sabbath. That is the bare minimum you need to support your claim.
You may need to be more accurate in the way you read the scripture.
The Gentiles who live, reside, amongst the people of Israel (sojourner) are considered members of the nation of Israel.
“Sojourner” is the frequent translation of the Hebrew word 'ger'. This Hebrew term convey the basic idea that a person is residing, either temporarily or permanently in Israel.
Gentile nations are not members of that old covenant between God and Israel.
God instructed Israel to destroy the seven nations surrounding Israel. Trust me, those nations are not covenant nations.
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon the holy city
That verse in Daniel does not mention Gentile nations.
I am not aware of the inclusion of any other nation in that old covenant.
The Gentiles who live, reside, amongst the people of Israel (sojourner) are considered members of the nation of Israel.
“Sojourner” is the frequent translation of the Hebrew word 'ger'. This Hebrew term convey the basic idea that a person is residing, either temporarily or permanently in Israel.
Gentile nations are not members of that old covenant between God and Israel.
God instructed Israel to destroy the seven nations surrounding Israel. Trust me, those nations are not covenant nations.
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon the holy city
That verse in Daniel does not mention Gentile nations.
I am not aware of the inclusion of any other nation in that old covenant.
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You cannot get to 364 days using lunar months. The number of days in a lunar month are 29 or 30 days. Without adding days to match up with the seasons, from memory, I am sure, it's only 360 days in the average year.
We know that each month started when the new moon was sighted.
Your stuck with a 360 day Hebrew calendar.
We know that each month started when the new moon was sighted.
Your stuck with a 360 day Hebrew calendar.
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That passage can be a bit confusing for folks unaware that the seven-day
feast of Unleavened Bread (a.k.a. Passover) consists of a total of eight days.
The "first day" is when all the lambs are slaughtered and roasted with fire,
ready to eat by sunset; which is when the seven-day part of the feast kicks
off seeing as how the Jews' holy days begin and end with sunset.
In other words: the "first day" isn't a holy day. In point of fact it is a very
busy day because of all the preparations that have to be made for dinner
that night; which includes a witch hunt (so to speak) for any and all
leavened bread in the Jews' homes.
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That passage can be a bit confusing for folks unaware that the seven-day
feast of Unleavened Bread (a.k.a. Passover) consists of a total of eight days.
The "first day" is when all the lambs are slaughtered and roasted with fire,
ready to eat by sunset; which is when the seven-day part of the feast kicks
off seeing as how the Jews' holy days begin and end with sunset.
In other words: the "first day" isn't a holy day. In point of fact it is a very
busy day because of all the preparations that have to be made for dinner
that night; which includes a witch hunt (so to speak) for any and all
leavened bread in the Jews' homes.
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While the Jews were killing their lambs that year, the Romans were
simultaneously killing the lamb of God due to the Jews' religious calendar
running late.
I'm guessing that God kept mum about the error because it was important
to Him that Jesus be slain during the Jews' preparations for Passover rather
than Jesus' preparations.
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While the Jews were killing their lambs that year, the Romans were
simultaneously killing the lamb of God due to the Jews' religious calendar
running late.
I'm guessing that God kept mum about the error because it was important
to Him that Jesus be slain during the Jews' preparations for Passover rather
than Jesus' preparations.
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Then why did Christ say he would resurrect AFTER three days. There's another verse where people who had heard him say that repeat it to someone else.
It's not my claim. Christ claimed it. I merely quoted what he said.
Also, I don't need a verse saying he rose on Sabbath, but that he rose on the day after the Sabbath:
Mar_8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mar_16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
Do you disagree with what Mark has written?
It's not my claim. Christ claimed it. I merely quoted what he said.
Also, I don't need a verse saying he rose on Sabbath, but that he rose on the day after the Sabbath:
Mar_8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mar_16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
Do you disagree with what Mark has written?
It was possible that such a 360-day prophetic calendar was in use. Check this out.
https://360calendar.com/
https://360calendar.com/
Mark says Jesus rose after Saturday, early on Sunday. That obviously contradicts the other gospels. I proposed a solution so there is no contradiction.
Killed Wednesday, buried at the very moment Thursday happened, Friday and Saturday, rising exactly when it was both the 7th day and the 1st day. I know our human brains thinks that is impossible but I believe it is fully possible for God to do which means "on the third day" and "after three days" are not contradictions.