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If anything, I compared you to a lemming.
My point, and if you read what I posted it should be relatively clear... was that to not warn someone of the cliff (actively persueing sin) would be neglegence on my(our)part...
Here's the context..
JimmyDiggs said:
If you'd rather me not warn someone of that cliff edge...
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What is the point of existence but to exist for the being that exists beyond all existence? He is greater than all the universe and what is contains. Everything doesn't compare to the value of God for He is limitless in all areas of majesty, honor, glory, power, love, devotion, loyalty, faithfulness, trustworthiness, goodness, joy, peace, self-control, meekness, humility, kindness, gentleness, righteous anger and wrath and justice.
If anything, I compared you to a lemming.
My point, and if you read what I posted it should be relatively clear... was that to not warn someone of the cliff (actively persueing sin) would be neglegence on my(our)part...
Here's the context..
You people always go around bashing others for their sins (or "sins" in this case) when you don't look at the hypocrisy and sins of your own groups, leaders and media outlets. You all bash and bash and cast stones, but the second anyone brings to light YOUR side's inadequacies, sins, problems or mistakes, they are instantly God-hating atheist pigs. Even though many God loving Christians look down upon the tactics of the far right's religious extremism.
So next time you decide to bash Christians like me who are progressive, just know that we are the ones spreading God's love to people and converting people by the heart and mouth, not by the fire and brimstone.
This... is becoming rather pathetic.
People are gay. People will always be gay, there are gay people who believe in God read the bible and pray with all their might, repent from being Gay etc... they are still gay but they are also still Christians, just like every other Christian who has ever done something against God, lied cheated stolen w/e has prayed/repented blah blah blah... it doesn't remove their "christianness"
So just DEAL !
People are gay. People will always be gay, there are gay people who believe in God read the bible and pray with all their might, repent from being Gay etc... they are still gay but they are also still Christians, just like every other Christian who has ever done something against God, lied cheated stolen w/e has prayed/repented blah blah blah... it doesn't remove their "christianness"
So just DEAL !
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For the first time i agree with Forlorn. I don't understand how somebody cannot be christian and gay at the same time!. Rom 10:9 gives us the way to be saved. And if anybody does that irrespective of who you are gay, murderer etc. You become saved!
And it's because the society (especially Christians) make a fuss about homosexuals. Lying, Stealing, Killing, Fornication are just as bad as Homosexualism!. And if liars, thieves, fornicators etc can repent and become Christians, Why can't Homosexuals be Christians?
I think like Forlorn said earlier, "EVERYBODY SHOULD LEAVE EVERYBODY ALONE"
And it's because the society (especially Christians) make a fuss about homosexuals. Lying, Stealing, Killing, Fornication are just as bad as Homosexualism!. And if liars, thieves, fornicators etc can repent and become Christians, Why can't Homosexuals be Christians?
I think like Forlorn said earlier, "EVERYBODY SHOULD LEAVE EVERYBODY ALONE"
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The pathetic thing is that christians today dont give a damn about the bible or gods kingship. The bible says its a sin. End of story. It doesnt matter about feelings or personal beliefs gods word is GODS word. And btw I didnt go through corrective therapy fsu god himself healed me and dont you dare blaspheme the spirit by saying its fake.
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Belief or lack of belief makes no difference to reality. Surely you wouldn't say that because I believe the bible is very clear about homosexuality being a sin, that therefor it becomes one for all..
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Now, if the bible does declare homosexuality to be sin(which the evidence certainly suggests strongly) then the only thing left for us is to conform to that truth. Even if we don't like it. For to resist it, would be to resist the very word of God. Being that, the bible is inspired.
We can close our eyes, plug our ears and scream "LALALALALALA!!" but that does nothing to change the fact that we're standing on the train tracks, with a locomotive barreling straight for us.
Skin color and homosexuality don't equate. There is very little scientific evidence that a person is born gay.
Despite that, it doesn't matter. Sin is sin bro... Black skin doesn't violate the marriage covenent. Sodomy does though, regardless of whether the person committing such act is white, black, red, or purple with pink polka dots...
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0[/video]
Also, let's not insinuate.
Well, I wasn't but I said if anyone was being called a lemming it would be you. Myself include, if I weren't doing my duty. I know you're against the grain, and that was kind of my point. Think about who your "peers" are, and look at the picture again. You denounce biblical christianity repeatedly, so I doubt you'd claim us as your peers.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to get at here. Could you please elaborate?
We believe that homosexuality is a sin, because the bible compels us to.
Why does everything with you come back to Democrat vs. Republican? Can't we just have a discussion about, "is action X a sin?"
I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't believe I've been bashing or casting any stones. Pleaes provide examples if I have. In fact, if you recall, I made an offer to give you a list of sexual sins I've commited. I do not forget my own wrongs. By all means, call out the wrongs of others. If I was running toward danger, I would hope you would try to stop me. If I saw you running toward a 40 foot cliff, I'd try to stop you, because I love you as a brother in Christ. Would you have enough love to do the same for me? To stop someone from running toward that 40 foot cliff? That's what we do when we refuse to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We let people continue as lemmings, trapped inside the delirium of the powers and principalities.(eph 6)
First two minutes, pay attention por favor; maybe it'll be easier if some music explains it.
YouTube - ‪The Arrows Next Time‬‏ <--- click
Shallow, sure, I'd agree there. Fire and brimstone might motivate, but it's only deal-breaking. However, if that's what it takes, wouldn't you say it's better a person be saved from fire, than unsaved by neglegence?
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Now, if the bible does declare homosexuality to be sin(which the evidence certainly suggests strongly) then the only thing left for us is to conform to that truth. Even if we don't like it. For to resist it, would be to resist the very word of God. Being that, the bible is inspired.
We can close our eyes, plug our ears and scream "LALALALALALA!!" but that does nothing to change the fact that we're standing on the train tracks, with a locomotive barreling straight for us.
Skin color and homosexuality don't equate. There is very little scientific evidence that a person is born gay.
Despite that, it doesn't matter. Sin is sin bro... Black skin doesn't violate the marriage covenent. Sodomy does though, regardless of whether the person committing such act is white, black, red, or purple with pink polka dots...
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIw6ngIqaD0[/video]
Also, let's not insinuate.
Well, I wasn't but I said if anyone was being called a lemming it would be you. Myself include, if I weren't doing my duty. I know you're against the grain, and that was kind of my point. Think about who your "peers" are, and look at the picture again. You denounce biblical christianity repeatedly, so I doubt you'd claim us as your peers.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to get at here. Could you please elaborate?
We believe that homosexuality is a sin, because the bible compels us to.
Why does everything with you come back to Democrat vs. Republican? Can't we just have a discussion about, "is action X a sin?"
I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't believe I've been bashing or casting any stones. Pleaes provide examples if I have. In fact, if you recall, I made an offer to give you a list of sexual sins I've commited. I do not forget my own wrongs. By all means, call out the wrongs of others. If I was running toward danger, I would hope you would try to stop me. If I saw you running toward a 40 foot cliff, I'd try to stop you, because I love you as a brother in Christ. Would you have enough love to do the same for me? To stop someone from running toward that 40 foot cliff? That's what we do when we refuse to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We let people continue as lemmings, trapped inside the delirium of the powers and principalities.(eph 6)
First two minutes, pay attention por favor; maybe it'll be easier if some music explains it.
YouTube - ‪The Arrows Next Time‬‏ <--- click
Shallow, sure, I'd agree there. Fire and brimstone might motivate, but it's only deal-breaking. However, if that's what it takes, wouldn't you say it's better a person be saved from fire, than unsaved by neglegence?
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I am literally going to ignore your reply to my post b/c you post in the most annoying way possible, so I only read this one. And yes I agree the sin is what's hurting us. But then again, homosexuality ISN'T a sin. God isn't a dumb human who does things for stupid reasons. Let's think about it. Logically, homosexuality being bad doesn't make sense. It's illogical. Murdering, stealing, using God's name in vein, cheating on you wife/husband, all bad things that hurt people or yourself. Those are sins. Eating shell fish, eating pigs, wearing polycotton blend, liking the same sex.. Yeah, can you pick out WHY God would've banned these in the times of the old testament? The first two were health hazards for people of the day, as there was little one could do to be 100% sure it was safe to eat, homosexuality limited the numbers of people having children, and God wanted the nation of Israel (the ancient one) to grow large and powerful. What with today's overpopulation, that's a moot point. The polycotton blend thing still has me confused but w/e. My point is, God isn't stupid, He's all-knowing and omnipotent. Homosexuality wouldn't happen naturally if He didn't want it to be. Just as tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanic explosions and tornadoes wouldn't happen naturally if He didn't wish it so.
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Does masturbation hurt yourself as a sexual sin? Are you aware of the physical pathways in the brain that are developed that create dependency to imitation intimacy. That a wall of detachment is created in the mind in porn use or sex outside of marriage. That the act of sex is designed to be used within covenant and when it isn't, there are physical consequences in the brain.
I'm not surprised that in an age of fixation on so many forms of imitation that replace the desire for complementary union; that homosexuality is a just another form. Porn or sex outside marriage isn't training the brain to love, it is training it to remain in a selfish environment that you are comfortable with. Sex with the same gender is just another way to remain comfortable with what you know instead of being stretched in a self-sacrificial way within a relationship with someone who's brain works completely different in a complementary way.
Ceremonial laws were designed as types and shadows of Christ and the nature of God. God did not judge other nations according to those laws, he did judge them according to sexual sins. Wool made people sweat back then and represented hard work, mixed garments were banned for the priests because God didn't want priests to mix their labor with his work; he wanted them to be surrendered, know that his burden is light, and consider the work joy instead of toilsome labor.
Then why does Jesus pray that God's will be done on Earth as it is done in Heaven? God doesn't wish disasters, God never wished for death. He allows those things the same way he allows sin, but he doesn't wish for sin to take place because it is harmful.
I'm not surprised that in an age of fixation on so many forms of imitation that replace the desire for complementary union; that homosexuality is a just another form. Porn or sex outside marriage isn't training the brain to love, it is training it to remain in a selfish environment that you are comfortable with. Sex with the same gender is just another way to remain comfortable with what you know instead of being stretched in a self-sacrificial way within a relationship with someone who's brain works completely different in a complementary way.
Ceremonial laws were designed as types and shadows of Christ and the nature of God. God did not judge other nations according to those laws, he did judge them according to sexual sins. Wool made people sweat back then and represented hard work, mixed garments were banned for the priests because God didn't want priests to mix their labor with his work; he wanted them to be surrendered, know that his burden is light, and consider the work joy instead of toilsome labor.
Then why does Jesus pray that God's will be done on Earth as it is done in Heaven? God doesn't wish disasters, God never wished for death. He allows those things the same way he allows sin, but he doesn't wish for sin to take place because it is harmful.
God speaks against practicing homosexuality. It is not part of His creative plan. He calls it an abomination (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13.)
Though He loves you anyway, the practice of homosexuality is a sin and sin will separate you from God.
If you are a christian, the Bible is suppose to be your manual for living. I would gladly humble, if it can be proven by His Word, and not by feelings, thoughts and opinions (Proverbs 14:12There is a way that seems right to a person, but eventually it ends in death). that He said he supports it
Though He loves you anyway, the practice of homosexuality is a sin and sin will separate you from God.
If you are a christian, the Bible is suppose to be your manual for living. I would gladly humble, if it can be proven by His Word, and not by feelings, thoughts and opinions (Proverbs 14:12There is a way that seems right to a person, but eventually it ends in death). that He said he supports it
Show me in scripture clearly where God endorses same sex sex. If you can I will recant my belief that homosexuality is wrong. Because remember scripture is the standard of this world and holds the world together. Show me any where in scripture where God even implies that its ok. I dont want to hear your babble about people of history, philosophy, science, psychology, none of that. Show me in scripture where God endorsed, implied acceptance of the "acts of homosexualiy". Remember in your search that the God of the Old Testament is the God of the New Testament. Remember that when you fall on that Rock of Christ truth its going to hurt very hard, so proceed with caution 
I will sleep soundly knowing that it will never be found and that I will never have to recant, because Gods attitude in scripture is obvious towards the acts of homosexuality. You just dont want to obey God, you just dont want to love him, by your acts of teaching falsehood you display great hate towards God and his words and his kingdom and you are considered a heretic to the truth of God and His Holy One, Jesus the Messiah. Satan has blinded your eyes and I pray that you repeant speedily before the refreshing of the Lord come, because you will be counted as an enemy of my Lord. Jesus loves you, but he cant endorse you, because you teach against his truth and not for it. Satan has influenced you to think the reason why the scripture is against homosexuality is because the jews-christians didnt like. But the scripture is the inspired by the Holy Spirit and Christians are to follow the scripture and agree with it whether we understand it logically or not.
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Hi i have family memebers that are gay and they know that they are wrong in God's eyes, i can sit here and quote the bible like i know many other people have and will but you need to ask God to answer your questions to put it in your heart. A lot of people will qoute books too but i will telll you the BIBLE is the book you should be worried about!!! not any other it will get you so confused. God doesnt hate gay people he hates SIN and if they dont repent you know what will happen. gay people are not happy with who they are, men want to be women and women want to be men!!! if it was ok it wouldve been ok from the begining of time!. God is was and will always be the same, he will not change just because its the new millenium. the bible states it clearly ITS AN ABOMINATION TO GOD! IT ALSO STATES THAT IF ANY MAN SHALL TAKE AWAY OR ADD FROM THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF HIS PROPHECY, GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE. GOD IS NOT MAN TO BE WRONG OR A SON OF A MAN TO GO BACK ON HIS WORD. I HOPE I HELPED A LITTLE