Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

[DanielLL]

I'll have to move on

Of course you have to move on, you have no way of refuting it. Remember, even the least of this has the soul of the Father in them:

Matthew 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

God created all that is. Satan is one of His creations.

No, God cannot sin. He cannot create evil for example, He cannot bring forth sin, He cannot tempt nor be tempted:

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Also, Satan is not "very good". So God created a good serpent and He saw it was very good:

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

It was only later, when the serpent begat sin, out of his own lusts, that Satan was created, by his own lusts, not God.

 

[Magenta]

No, God cannot sin.

I did not say God created sin, or could sin. I said God created Satan, and you claim that entity as your brother by "virtue" of him being one of God's creations. Do you purposefully conflate in order to deflect and hopefully avoid facing and admitting your error?

On the other hand, it is God Who defines sin. And HE allowed animals to be killed.

Which makes it NOT a sin despite all your anti-Biblical protests to the contrary.

 

[DanielLL]

Satan is a created being

Satan was created by the serpent's own lusts, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it:

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

God didn't create Satan. The old serpent and his own lusts did. So, even tho Satan was created, he is of a different father. Which means he is not a brother.

God created Satan

God cannot sin. God cannot create liars, nor begat lies. You realize what you are doing?

 

[Magenta]

God cannot sin. God cannot create liars, nor begat lies. You realize what you are doing?

I realize what you are doing: pretending I said something I did not. You are being dishonest.

You deny the clear teaching of Scripture: God created all that is, and that includes the angels including Satan.

For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether
thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

 

[Magenta]

God didn't create Satan. The old serpent and his own lusts did. So, even tho
Satan was created, he is of a different father. Which means he is not a brother.

Satan is the father of all lies. He does not have a different Creator. Jeepers

 

[DanielLL]

including Satan.

He created all animals of the field, He created all angels. But lies and liars, He did not create. Satan is a liar, so God didn't create Satan.

-When you say God created Satan, you say God begat a lie. And that is not true, because God cannot sin. And the father of lies is Satan, that old serpent, and his own lusts.

 

[Magenta]

He created all animals of the field, He created all angels. But lies and
liars, He did not create. Satan is a liar, so God didn't create Satan.

-When you say God created Satan, you say God begat a lie. And that is not true, because
God cannot sin. And the father of lies is Satan, that old serpent, and his own lusts.

Certainly not! Let God be true and every man a liar. Romans 3:4

As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one." Romans 3:10

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

According to you/your belief, God did not create humanity, then.

 

[DanielLL]

According to you/your belief, God did not create humanity, then.

He created everything good, and He saw it was very good, and rested on the seventh day:

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

It was only later, when the serpent begat sin, out of his own lusts, that Satan was created, not by God but by the serpent's own lusts. Then Satan tempted the women, and the women, out of her own lusts, also begat sin, and so on. So, as you can see, all sin was begat by their own lusts. God wasn't responsible for their lust, for He tempts no man.

 

[Dino246]

Satan was created by the serpent's own lusts, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it:

Firstly, the serpent is not a man; and secondly, sin is not creative, but destructive. Sin cannot create any being.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Satan is not a man, so this verse does not apply.

God didn't create Satan. The old serpent and his own lusts did. So, even tho Satan was created, he is of a different father. Which means he is not a brother.

You don't even begin to make sense.

 

[DanielLL]

Dino246
What do you think? Who created sin, and Satan?

 

[Magenta]

He created everything good, and He saw it was very good, and rested on the seventh day:

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it
was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Satan was part of God's creation of the heavenly host. Angels
also sinned, though were seen as good in the beginning.

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell
and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment...

Your theology is seriously messed up.

 

[Magenta]

What do you think? Who created sin, and Satan?

Sin is not a created thing, but rather a lack of goodness.

And NONE are good but God alone.

Another Scriptural truth you must deny.

 

[DanielLL]

Angels
also sinned, though were seen as good in the beginning.

Angels sinned but were not seen as good, that is why they were cast down to hell.

Sin is not a thing, but rather a lack of goodness.

Ok, so at the end of the sixth day there was no sin in all of creation, because God saw it was very good.

 

[Magenta]

Angels sinned but were not seen as good, that is why they were cast down to hell.

They were and are part of creation, and God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

Then you cannot say man was seen as good either because some
men will go to the lake of fire created for the devil and his angels.

In fact Scripture states broad is the way that leads to destruction.

 

[Magenta]

You seriously need help with your theology. It is irrational
and self- contradictory as well as contradicting the Bible.

 

[DanielLL]

Then you cannot say man was seen as good either because some
men will go to the lake of fire created for the devil and his angels.

It was good at the end of the sixth day, because after that sin entered into the world.

 

[Magenta]

It was good at the end of the sixth day, because after that sin entered into the world.

Because Adam sinned. In your rationale that means he could not have been seen as good.

Your theology is irrational.

 

[DanielLL]

Because Adam sinned. In your rationale that means he could not have been seen as good.

Sin is not seen as good.

 

[Magenta]

Sin is not seen as good.

Nobody said it was.

You say Satan was not good because he sinned yet he was/is part of God's creation proclaimed good.

You take it one step further and claim Satan was not even created by God.

The same line of illogical reasoning leads to saying man could not have been seen as good either.

Simply because he sinned. Taken one step further, according to
how you put things together, God therefore did not create man.

Your theology needs a lot of work just to even start making sense.

 

[DanielLL]

You say Satan was not good because he sinned yet he was/is part of God's creation proclaimed good.

God created a beast of the field, not Satan. Satan speaks of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it.

The same line of illogical reasoning leads to saying man could not have been seen as good either.

Man was seen as good before he sinned, after that he was judged and punished, (not good). Same thing with the serpent, was a beast of the field, seen as good, but after it sinned it was judged and punished. (not good)

So, God is not the Father of lies, no. God is the Father of all that is good. Satan is the father of lies.

1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

"His brother" is all creatures that were created by Him, because both man and animals were created by the same Father, so you can't hate any creature that God has created. If you do, you are a murderer. And not a brother because God is not the Father of murderers.