Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

[DanielLL]

We are Renewed/ReBorn/Made Alive in the Spirit but not in the flesh/creation.

Yes, those born of God are righteous children of God, born of the Will of God.

 

[DavidTree]

Yes, those born of God are righteous children of God, born of the Will of God.

Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh.
Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
2 Cor ch5

 

[Oblio]

He shed His blood, the innocent for the guilty.

 

[shittim]

And was VERY clear that ALL things are new in Him.
We haven't been under the law for 2,000+ years

 

[Oblio]

We're under the new covenant.

 

[Oblio]

I showed the proof that it is not sinful to kill an animal. To say it is, is to contradict the bible.
The reality is that the Father killed His Son for our benefit. If anyone has a problem with that, then they don't believe God.

 

[CS1]

This is what muslims do, they ask: "Where does Jesus say "I am God, worship me"? So, because He didn't say it, in those exact words, they think Jesus isn't God. So, you would have to deny the deity of Jesus if you were to be consistent with your argument, because He never said: "I am God, worship me" in those exact words. I know you don't, you are just beeing obnoxious. You think the Word has to speak as you want it to speak? -You don't get to tell the Word how to speak, and what words to use.

Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

-He kills guilty sinners in His righteousness. He doesn't shed innocent blood.

I GUESS THE CHILDREN AND THE WIFE OF KORAH WERE NOT INNOCENT? GOD IS RIGHT IN ANYTHING he DOES.

 

[DanielLL]

He shed His blood, the innocent for the guilty.

His Blood is Life:
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

I showed the proof that it is not sinful to kill an animal. To say it is, is to contradict the bible.

You quoted Torah.org, I quoted Scripture. The Truth always contradicts a lie, you choose whom will ye serve.

 

[DanielLL]

I showed the proof that it is not sinful to kill an animal. To say it is, is to contradict the bible.

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

 

[DanielLL]

We haven't been under the law for 2,000+ years

Golden Rule is Law:
Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

 

[CS1]

No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation.

1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

Psalms 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Malachi 2:8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.

Jeremiah 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

Ecclesiastes 5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Jeremiah 7:5 For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

Isaiah 59:6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.


The priests indeed receive such offering as reconciliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins against the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.

Please provide a verse that says God doesn't shed innocent blood. Or God doesn't Kill

 

[CS1]

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

THOU IS YOU NOT God

 

[CS1]

Yes, God took skins, it doesn't say "He slew them". That is your assumption.

The difference is that in this case, it does. When you say it doesn't, you say that God created animals already guilty of sin (an impossibility) and that He saw that guilty animals with sin was "good". Which blasphemes His Holiness in a number of different ways.

You should mimic Messiah, not me. But if you want to mimic me, at leat do it properly, without blaspheming.

Mimic the Messiah? You need to grow up.

 

[CS1]

Don't the verses rebuke blood sacrifices? Isn't shedding innocent blood an abomination? How can you say God killed the animals then?

God killed many animals in the Flood HE caused Or do you think drowning was not the cause that Gid made happen to destroy the earth I'm sure those poor animals had nothing to do with the evil of men.

 

[CS1]

His Blood is Life:
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

You quoted Torah.org, I quoted Scripture. The Truth always contradicts a lie, you choose whom will ye serve.

LOL FYI “Torah” is the word of God first five books of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), also known as the Pentateuch

 

[DanielLL]

God killed many animals in the Flood

He didn't shed innocent blood, He only killed corrupted flesh:

Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

 

[CS1]

He didn't shed innocent blood, He only killed corrupted flesh:

Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

LOL, you require others to provide you in the word of God where it says God took skins to mean God killed an animal and removed its skin to cover Adam and Eve but you don't have to provide a verse that says God doesn't kill those who have not sinned?

There is a theological term for that you know?
Read about Korah and his family who killed HIm ? the ground that opened up or God who opened it?

 

[CS1]

He didn't shed innocent blood, He only killed corrupted flesh:

Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

YOu don't understand the God of the Bible. HE is just in all HE does even in taking life that has no recorded sin. The child and wife of Korah don't say they did any sin. the animals that died during the flood say nothing of them sinning where are innocent animals or just animals that sinned?

 

[CS1]

Please provide a verse that says God doesn't shed innocent blood. Or God doesn't Kill

waiting playing by your rules

 

[DanielLL]

you don't have to provide a verse that says God doesn't kill those who have not sinned?

I provided over a dozen verses, and they all testify against shedding innocent blood. God cannot hate his own works, so He can't shed innocent blood:

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Read about Korah and his family who killed HIm ?

-If the earth swallow them up, the ye shall understand that they have provoked the Lord:

Numbers 16:30 But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord
Numbers 16:40 To be a memorial unto the children of Israel, that no stranger, which is not of the seed of Aaron, come near to offer incense before the Lord; that he be not as Korah, and as his company: as the Lord said to him by the hand of Moses.

-And you are murmuring just like they murmured:

Numbers 16:41 But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron, saying, Ye have killed the people of the Lord.

-This is what happend to the murmurers:

Numbers 16:44 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
45 Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment. And they fell upon their faces.
46 And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the Lord; the plague is begun.
49 Now they that died in the plague were fourteen thousand and seven hundred, beside them that died about the matter of Korah.

The child and wife of Korah don't say they did any sin.

It does, but it doesn't even need to say, because if the earth swalled them up, then ye shall understand they have provoked the Lord. He can't shed innocent blood, so they must have been guilty in order to be killed by Him.

the animals that died during the flood say nothing of them sinning

It does, but it doesn't even need to, because if God killed them, then ye shall understand that they have provoked the Lord.