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I'm writing in response with no ill feelings or desired outcome of anything I might say here so ignore me, deplore me, report me or put an x, but you don't know me and my heart is before God and I do not lie or exaggerate, and really do not think you mean ill rehbein, but I think you are mistaken.
I will note this forum has changed since I first started posting here back in 2016 (I think it was) and not for the better and neither the owner nor the mods are to blame. I like this forum, actually, because there is more liberty here to express yourself and you don't have a mod breathing down your neck waiting for something to ban you about. However, some folks do abuse that and take authority that is not given them and treat other posters here as though they were God's gift to the planet.
anyway...opinions. everybody has them.
I really hesitate to write the following, having just gone through a ridiculous exercise in a deliberate attempt to turn my words into lies and my person into a liar who accuses others of misdeeds which are better understood to be me own. in other words, some gaslighting individual here in the forum took it upon himself to publicly address me as though I were the worst thing since Hitler and he claimed I needed to repent and he feared for my salvation and more and most of all, MOST OF ALL
he wanted me to publicly apologize, to him, for lying about him and in truth before God (with everything already before Him to be sure) these were things that really he had done to myself and others but, with a 6th sense that I am well aware of, he honed in on me, despite others saying the same to him as I had.
it was the apology he longed for and desired above all else that sticks out like that proverbial sore thumb we have all experienced at one time or another, that betrays the actual motive and mechanism that kicked in his hatred of me...because it is hatred...but he cannot help himself
it is useless to defend yourself in a case like that so I put him on ignore and told him I was doing so
and I prayed because this is not unusual for me to be accused of things I did not do or be told I said things I did not say
why would you write this? this is hurtful and I do not mean to the op. I mean it in the sense that it redirects what is being said and indicates either a misunderstanding of the material, a dislike of the material or fear in what is being said
as it is, you had an op a couple of weeks or so back in which every person responding totally misunderstood what you were saying and finally you clarified our understanding. you were not clear on what you said and we all took your words to mean something different than what you intended
I do not write about my experiences...very few anyway...and there is good reason for that. I was introduced to evil in a way most Christians would not suspect the devil can operate . this evil came in the form of an evangelist who went about supposedly conducting 'revivals' in churches throughout the US . Suffice it to say, he left chaos, pain and suffering and actual destroyed lives behind him as he went on to the next target. I say target meaning the devil had open doors through this person and thousands of opportunities to wreck havoc.
Believe me, do not believe me....sometimes I would like to think it did not happen but it did. Some of you might know his name but I am not going to mention it. the church body governing his comings and goings finally took away his license to preach and he became independent but was never able to regain his former 'glory' and in fact, he failed at every project he attempted and remains tucked away in some small corner of the world if he is even still alive.
Take seriously the enemy. You don't know what he can do...Paul said people in his day were not ignorant but the ignorance today is staggering and frankly horrifying to see as people are swallowed up by lies and devilish preaching wherein people are actually told that the Bible is more of a suggestion than a direction.
I know plenty about things I never thought I would know about and the longer I live and see this world go down the toilet (pardon me) with emphasis on the church, the more I suspect God heard me when I said I just wanted to know Him as He really is and not as others say He is. I cannot be a part of what others think is wonderful and I cannot agree that all these so called miracles are of God and I cannot agree that feelings guide us and so if we feel great it must be good and it must be God
I don't have any other place to write the above so I wrote it here after reading some of the posts. somehow it seems fitting
oh...and I do not see revival as the answer and I do not believe we shall have one. why would we?
I will note this forum has changed since I first started posting here back in 2016 (I think it was) and not for the better and neither the owner nor the mods are to blame. I like this forum, actually, because there is more liberty here to express yourself and you don't have a mod breathing down your neck waiting for something to ban you about. However, some folks do abuse that and take authority that is not given them and treat other posters here as though they were God's gift to the planet.
anyway...opinions. everybody has them.
So, I guess we just throw away our Bibles because the Scriptures within are not Truth?
Romans, Chapter 10:
9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16) But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
I do not know what Church Group/Denomination you belong to, or, if you even belong to one, but whatever it is, they teach a different Gospel than the one I read in my KJV.
In truth, it sounds much like a mix between pagan teachings and Christian teachings, and that ain't the Gospel of Jesus IMO....
Romans, Chapter 10:
9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16) But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
I do not know what Church Group/Denomination you belong to, or, if you even belong to one, but whatever it is, they teach a different Gospel than the one I read in my KJV.
In truth, it sounds much like a mix between pagan teachings and Christian teachings, and that ain't the Gospel of Jesus IMO....
he wanted me to publicly apologize, to him, for lying about him and in truth before God (with everything already before Him to be sure) these were things that really he had done to myself and others but, with a 6th sense that I am well aware of, he honed in on me, despite others saying the same to him as I had.
it was the apology he longed for and desired above all else that sticks out like that proverbial sore thumb we have all experienced at one time or another, that betrays the actual motive and mechanism that kicked in his hatred of me...because it is hatred...but he cannot help himself
it is useless to defend yourself in a case like that so I put him on ignore and told him I was doing so
and I prayed because this is not unusual for me to be accused of things I did not do or be told I said things I did not say
So, I guess we just throw away our Bibles because the Scriptures within are not Truth?
as it is, you had an op a couple of weeks or so back in which every person responding totally misunderstood what you were saying and finally you clarified our understanding. you were not clear on what you said and we all took your words to mean something different than what you intended
I do not write about my experiences...very few anyway...and there is good reason for that. I was introduced to evil in a way most Christians would not suspect the devil can operate . this evil came in the form of an evangelist who went about supposedly conducting 'revivals' in churches throughout the US . Suffice it to say, he left chaos, pain and suffering and actual destroyed lives behind him as he went on to the next target. I say target meaning the devil had open doors through this person and thousands of opportunities to wreck havoc.
Believe me, do not believe me....sometimes I would like to think it did not happen but it did. Some of you might know his name but I am not going to mention it. the church body governing his comings and goings finally took away his license to preach and he became independent but was never able to regain his former 'glory' and in fact, he failed at every project he attempted and remains tucked away in some small corner of the world if he is even still alive.
Take seriously the enemy. You don't know what he can do...Paul said people in his day were not ignorant but the ignorance today is staggering and frankly horrifying to see as people are swallowed up by lies and devilish preaching wherein people are actually told that the Bible is more of a suggestion than a direction.
I know plenty about things I never thought I would know about and the longer I live and see this world go down the toilet (pardon me) with emphasis on the church, the more I suspect God heard me when I said I just wanted to know Him as He really is and not as others say He is. I cannot be a part of what others think is wonderful and I cannot agree that all these so called miracles are of God and I cannot agree that feelings guide us and so if we feel great it must be good and it must be God
I don't have any other place to write the above so I wrote it here after reading some of the posts. somehow it seems fitting
oh...and I do not see revival as the answer and I do not believe we shall have one. why would we?