The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.
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" LEFT" MEANS "LEFT"
HE LEFT.
Deal with it.
Change it
Do whatever you need to do to protect that failed doctrine.
Flat out comical.
How long would it have taken you to go to the bible and READ WHAT IT SAYS???????????
Instead i have to spoon feed you????
And right in the next verse Angel urged them to ESCAPE. So convenient of you to ignore that and take things out of context. And that's out of the city, not out of this world like your fantasy.
Was Noah taken to heaven? Did anyone receive a glorified body>
What was "omitted"?
What is "there"?
Where do you get the theology of pretrib rapture from "one taken one left"?
The ONLY WAY to prove a pretrib trip to heaven in a glorified body is a verse that actually shows it.
And you know good and well that there are no such verses.
For ALL your so-called evidences of this pretrib trip to heaven in a glorified body, you MUST add a lot of presumption.
This is just a very wild LEAP. There's lots of judgments in the Bible, so there's lots of "prejudgments" that go along with the judgments.
What you can't deal with is the 10 plagues of Egypt, where God kept the Israelites SAFE all the while raining judgment down on the Egyptians. God didn't remove the Jews from Egypt in order to judge Egypt.
Psssst.....
Next time read where Jesus says "...his COMING will be like...." NOAH AND LOT.
IT is you guys claim the rapture is at HIS COMING.
So just make believe lot and noah are raptured ( hello, removed) post flood and fire
Just tap your heals together and say " removed postrib...removed postrib....removed postrib"
So you think "in-laws" are going to be "left behind"??
I don't think Jenkins and LaHaye made any mention of in-laws in their books.
Yet, 1 Cor 15:23 blows your theory out of the water. "those who belong to Him" include every person that the Savior saves. Because all who are saved DO belong to Him.
Paul clearly taught that the singular resurrection would include all believers and will occur "when He comes", which is obviously the 2nd Advent.
Yeah
Just pretend they went through the judgement were not taken by the hand and drug out, and then in unison with your belief, removed post judgement.
Change it around.
Feel good about it.
Invincible ignorance
God's wrath is on sin, whether committed by believer or unbeliever.
Col 3:5-10
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
Paul is warning the Colossian believers to "put to death" or "take off their old self with its practices" in order to AVOID GOD'S WRATH.
"Because of these (immoral lifestyles) the wrath of God is coming."
Paul didn't say all believers will miss God's wrath. He warned believers to avoid His wrath by taking off the old self.
Really fanciful thinking there. There was NO trib. There was a flood, though.
To see "pretrib rapture" in the flood is really something.
Not even close.
furthermore, to use Noah's flood to claim that there will be a trip to heaven is really a weak argument. In fact, it's NO argument.
Just a lot of presumption.
How 'bout that! There IS one.
2 Thess 2:1 - Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
There it is. "our being gathered to Him" will occur "when He comes", which is obviously the Second Advent.
Keep fooling yourself, change the definition of words as you like. Noah and Lot were ON EARTH the whole time, when was either of them "removed" into heaven? They were not under judgement because they were PROTECTED, not "raptured" - or removed!
Still no trip to heaven.
You really seem to like to open yourself up for charges.
You've been shown all the verses that SAY that the resurrection of "those who belong to Him" is singular. That means ALL believers will be given glorified bodies at the same event, whether dead or alive, which is what 1 Thess 4 and 1 Cor 15:52 says as well.
You've also been shown the verses that pinpoint the resurrection/glorified bodies to be at the Second Advent.
And you have rudely REJECTED all of them, as if they don't exist.
So WHO really has the DISDAIN for God's Word?
No, God never put any such fantasy in His Word.
Only if one has a very wild imagination.
Said the guy who doesn't believe the Bible, which teaches the single resurrection of all believers will occur at the Second Advent.
1 Cor 15:23
Students of the Word understand that Jesus wasn't talking about some trip to heaven, but rather, conditions on earth before His return will be "in like manner" to the conditions just before the flood. That's all. No pretrib anything, other than conditions.
No, actually the Bible says so. 1 Cor 15:23, Rev 20:5
You can forget Noah. But we all know that it is the pretribbers who "make believe" there will be a pretrib trip to heaven.
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