Voting is a waste of time

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I can't believe that Mr. Potato-head is still in office. As far as Trudeau getting back in, you know I didn't even consider voter fraud?
I'm not a very patriotic Canadian. Though I do love America. It breaks my heart to see what's happening south of the border.
The low-lifes have us by the short and curlies!
 
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I have reached the same conclusion as you Kris regarding politics and voting. I didn't vote last election and it was wonderful, didn't get my mail in ballot. About 20 years ago, I told my brother that I don't believe in politics, he said it was my job to vote to help change things. Looking back at it now, my brother gave me horrible advice.

I considered myself Libertarian, since my brother told me I was Libertarian, and later found out that pretty much everything I believed in, lined up with the Libertarian Party, with some reservation of course. I think your political leanings are what you were born with, at least for me. In high school, people really started getting into politics, and I didn't know what the big deal was. It was just people's opinions about things.

As of now, my political leanings would be a Libertarian-Monarchist. Why someone might ask? Well, God allows everyone to make their own choices on how to live, but Jesus is Lord of Lords, and King of Kinds. So, by definition a Christian is a Monarchist and I think, since God allows people to choose how to live, that also makes Christians, Libertarian. Well, at least this is my view.

People will save themselves much heartache, once they realize politics is rigged, controlled by special interest groups, the elite, corporations, and guided by Lucifer.



https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/..._conception_of_Lucifer_w_2014-06-27_00-24.jpg
You absolutely nailed it, friend. A couple additional comments. The latin on the left gets a bit disputed and there are a few pretty viable interpretations. I have heard that "Annuit Coeptis" can be "He favors our venture" - the he being Lucifer and the venture being the new order of the ages.

Also it should be noted that if you connect the stars in the 13 illuminated stars you get the 6-pointed "Star of Remphan" which has nothing to do with David. It has 6 points, 6 triangles, and a 6-sided figure at the center. It features prominently on a certain US ally nation's blue and while flag. It is also a sacred symbol in Islam, Judaism, and Catholicism, which is very very interesting.

Oh, and connect the letters MASON on the left and get the inverted pentagram of the Baphomet.

Anyways, the real elites actually call themselves Luciferians. "Illuminati" has that same connotation of enlightenment.

But anyways, I'm done with voting unless I see that the electoral infrastructure gets repaired by 2022. Otherwise there is no point. This is not the America where I was born. I bought a vest and plates after January 6.
 

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I say this as someone who was a candidate for public office five years ago and who genuinely believed that if you don't vote, you can't complain about the way government is (I now take the opposite view - if you DO vote, you cannot complain. You're the one who drove the clowns to the circus!).

Anyway, voting is a complete waste of time, energy, and interest. This was definitively proven to me after the fraud of 2020.

And before you say it wasn't a fraud - you may be right. Perhaps there was no significant fraud at all and Biden is the legit Vegetable-in-Chief. The problem is, the courts refused to hear any of this. The things that happened were fishy at best: kicking out poll watchers, blocking up viewing stations so the public could not observe ballot counting, "finding" hundreds and thousands of ballots in the middle of the night while others were found discarded, countless ballots with only the presidential selection made, and on and on and on. If democracy is the god that so many people in this country believe it to be, then these claims should have been examined.

Guess who largely refused to hear them? Republican-elected and -appointed state and federal judges. They didn't even want to consider allegations and refused to hear matters on it. They had the power to at least examine what were and still are credible claims of fraud. They did not. I, and many like me, now realize that elections are a sham and the process cannot and absolutely should not be trusted.

By the way, this fabled "red wave" many of you are pinning your hopes on will accomplish nothing. I've lived through several red waves since I became eligible to vote in 2002. It's always the same song and dance. "Look how terrible Democrats are! We gots ta vote Republican to fix this!" Then they get in and either do nothing by compromising or make the problem demonstrably worse.

All that has happened is the government has continued to waste money, grow exponentially, and curtail more and more basic liberties. Republicans are not interested in the radical reforms we would need to return this country to a republic (not "democracy"). Someone once observed that conservatism is just progressivism driving the speed limit. And that's true.

There's an obvious reason. As satanic as Democrats are - and they are all satanic - at least they are honest about what they want. They hate God, you, America, the family, decency, morality, capitalism, and freedom. They do not hide their contempt for these and other quintessential values. Nor do they care how they accomplish their objectives. Voter fraud? Voter intimidation and threats? Executive orders so their "president" can govern like a king? Cancel culture and character assassination of opponents? All this and more are fair game because their satanic religion demands it.

Meanwhile Republicans are Mr. Good Guy. They believe in THE SANCTITY OF THE INSTITUTIONS and other gobbledygook. They believe in stuff like WELL AH DONT AGREE WITH MAH OPPONENT BUT AH RESPECT HIS RIGHT TO BE THAT WAY and other Mr. Good Guy platitudes about tolerance and respect for a group of people who have nothing but abject hatred to pay them with. The left and right are enemies, but only one side seems to realize this.

Even when they win, Republicans are useless. They are not interested in doing anything they promise because then you won't have a reason to vote for them. For example, they have had the power several times to ban abortion yet have refused. Why? They know that banning abortion is the number one reason most evangelicals vote to elect Republicans. MUH SUPREME COURT NOMINEES!! The Supreme Court is 6-3 "conservative" and can't do anything but side with liberals, thanks to traitor and probable pedophile John Roberts and the other weaklings on there.

You can vote if you want. It's your right to live in a delusion. But I'm telling you now, nothing will change. 10 election cycles from now you'll still be falling for this con while the grifters continue profiting off of your votes by buying and selling access to government. This country, to the extent it is still a country, is run by banks, corporations, and lobbyists. Not you. "If voting actually changed anything, it would be illegal."
Its all a joke, the system in place is a joke. Humans should be able to govern themselves but have been extremely deluded. They can't rule themselves because they have been brainwashed into the current way of thinking. Which is extremely sad and pathetic.
 

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Ben Carson seems like he was always the smartest guy in the room. He is also a Seventh Day Adventist. Suppose to be one heck of a doctor also.
Ben Carson is a pansy, he can't public speak to save his life but thank God for his hands being able to perform brain surgery. I think he should stick to the medical field.
 

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You absolutely nailed it, friend. A couple additional comments. The latin on the left gets a bit disputed and there are a few pretty viable interpretations. I have heard that "Annuit Coeptis" can be "He favors our venture" - the he being Lucifer and the venture being the new order of the ages.

Also it should be noted that if you connect the stars in the 13 illuminated stars you get the 6-pointed "Star of Remphan" which has nothing to do with David. It has 6 points, 6 triangles, and a 6-sided figure at the center. It features prominently on a certain US ally nation's blue and while flag. It is also a sacred symbol in Islam, Judaism, and Catholicism, which is very very interesting.

Oh, and connect the letters MASON on the left and get the inverted pentagram of the Baphomet.

Anyways, the real elites actually call themselves Luciferians. "Illuminati" has that same connotation of enlightenment.

But anyways, I'm done with voting unless I see that the electoral infrastructure gets repaired by 2022. Otherwise there is no point. This is not the America where I was born. I bought a vest and plates after January 6.

Thanks for the confirmation of my thoughts.

Yeah, I just picked a google pic that gave some details about the symbols of the dollar, the aim of the post wasn't trying to expose the new world order, that's Alex Jones' job. lol
 

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Anyway, voting is a complete waste of time, energy, and interest.
As long as every possibility of voter fraud is not rooted out, voting will be a complete waste of time. January 6, 2021 was a golden opportunity for Mr. Trump to present in full detail with every proof and evidence (facts and figures) that there was election fraud in 2020. But he did not do so. Why? This was the right time to show America and the world that the election was in fact stolen (headlines from the Gateway Pundit).

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Accurate List of 2020 Election Fraud Cases Shows 81 Cases Total, 30 Still Active – And NOT ONE SINGLE COURT Has Allowed Evidence to be Argued

Attorney Sidney Powell Releases 270 Page Document on Massive 2020 Election Fraud Involving Foreign Interference

AMAZING FLASHBACK: Issues and Evidence of Election Fraud from November 2020 Never Investigated and Questions Still Unanswered
 
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I say this as someone who was a candidate for public office five years ago and who genuinely believed that if you don't vote, you can't complain about the way government is (I now take the opposite view - if you DO vote, you cannot complain. You're the one who drove the clowns to the circus!).

Anyway, voting is a complete waste of time, energy, and interest. This was definitively proven to me after the fraud of 2020.

And before you say it wasn't a fraud - you may be right. Perhaps there was no significant fraud at all and Biden is the legit Vegetable-in-Chief. The problem is, the courts refused to hear any of this. The things that happened were fishy at best: kicking out poll watchers, blocking up viewing stations so the public could not observe ballot counting, "finding" hundreds and thousands of ballots in the middle of the night while others were found discarded, countless ballots with only the presidential selection made, and on and on and on. If democracy is the god that so many people in this country believe it to be, then these claims should have been examined.

Guess who largely refused to hear them? Republican-elected and -appointed state and federal judges. They didn't even want to consider allegations and refused to hear matters on it. They had the power to at least examine what were and still are credible claims of fraud. They did not. I, and many like me, now realize that elections are a sham and the process cannot and absolutely should not be trusted.

By the way, this fabled "red wave" many of you are pinning your hopes on will accomplish nothing. I've lived through several red waves since I became eligible to vote in 2002. It's always the same song and dance. "Look how terrible Democrats are! We gots ta vote Republican to fix this!" Then they get in and either do nothing by compromising or make the problem demonstrably worse.

All that has happened is the government has continued to waste money, grow exponentially, and curtail more and more basic liberties. Republicans are not interested in the radical reforms we would need to return this country to a republic (not "democracy"). Someone once observed that conservatism is just progressivism driving the speed limit. And that's true.

There's an obvious reason. As satanic as Democrats are - and they are all satanic - at least they are honest about what they want. They hate God, you, America, the family, decency, morality, capitalism, and freedom. They do not hide their contempt for these and other quintessential values. Nor do they care how they accomplish their objectives. Voter fraud? Voter intimidation and threats? Executive orders so their "president" can govern like a king? Cancel culture and character assassination of opponents? All this and more are fair game because their satanic religion demands it.

Meanwhile Republicans are Mr. Good Guy. They believe in THE SANCTITY OF THE INSTITUTIONS and other gobbledygook. They believe in stuff like WELL AH DONT AGREE WITH MAH OPPONENT BUT AH RESPECT HIS RIGHT TO BE THAT WAY and other Mr. Good Guy platitudes about tolerance and respect for a group of people who have nothing but abject hatred to pay them with. The left and right are enemies, but only one side seems to realize this.

Even when they win, Republicans are useless. They are not interested in doing anything they promise because then you won't have a reason to vote for them. For example, they have had the power several times to ban abortion yet have refused. Why? They know that banning abortion is the number one reason most evangelicals vote to elect Republicans. MUH SUPREME COURT NOMINEES!! The Supreme Court is 6-3 "conservative" and can't do anything but side with liberals, thanks to traitor and probable pedophile John Roberts and the other weaklings on there.

You can vote if you want. It's your right to live in a delusion. But I'm telling you now, nothing will change. 10 election cycles from now you'll still be falling for this con while the grifters continue profiting off of your votes by buying and selling access to government. This country, to the extent it is still a country, is run by banks, corporations, and lobbyists. Not you. "If voting actually changed anything, it would be illegal."

No doubt we have a conspiratorial mentality going on in the government.
Thank God we have our guns. They think we will not organize and use them for democracy change. I believe they have a rude awakening coming. The mass mental state is very similar as just before the civil war....... just different reasons.
I pray not.
 
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No doubt we have a conspiratorial mentality going on in the government.
Thank God we have our guns. They think we will not organize and use them for democracy change. I believe they have a rude awakening coming. The mass mental state is very similar as just before the civil war....... just different reasons.
I pray not.
Exactly right. I already had guns... I bought a plate carrier and body armor after January 6. I know it's going to come down to a fight between the federal government and the People.

There have actually been TWO civil wars in America: the War of Independence and the American Civil War. To say it couldn't happen again is simply naive and ignorant of the times. As you said, ALL the grievances which preceded BOTH of the previous civil wars are HERE NOW. Not in exactly the same form, but in spirit:

Taxation without representation. Privileged/protected elite ruling class. Corruption in high places. Unreasonable searches, seizures, imposition on one's person. States rights versus federal tyranny. A national sin (abortion). Intolerable acts. And a whole host of other factors which are new to our time and just as grievous. Vaccine mandates. Intentional breakdown of law and order. Unequal application of the law. Satanic cabal in federal government. Myriad sexual sins being pushed by the establishment. Federal cabal feeding racism via critical race theory, etc. Propaganda in entertainment, news media, and education. CIA protecting criminals and pedophiles. Etc. Etc.
 
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Ben Carson is a pansy, he can't public speak to save his life but thank God for his hands being able to perform brain surgery. I think he should stick to the medical field.
I would have voted for him if he could have gone the distance, but he was too decent a person to be able to succeed. He ultimately pulled out because his opponents were intentionally slandering him and his wife. You've got to be able to handle that level of personal assault if you are going to lead the nation.
 

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I would have voted for him if he could have gone the distance, but he was too decent a person to be able to succeed. He ultimately pulled out because his opponents were intentionally slandering him and his wife. You've got to be able to handle that level of personal assault if you are going to lead the nation.
lol yep a pansy ... I'm not being mean :cautious:
 

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I would have voted for him if he could have gone the distance, but he was too decent a person to be able to succeed. He ultimately pulled out because his opponents were intentionally slandering him and his wife. You've got to be able to handle that level of personal assault if you are going to lead the nation.

I think it's more you have to sell out to your handlers, or special interest groups, and give lip service to the American people. If your not willing to do this, politics might not be the best career choice for you. Yes, I know there might be a couple Ron Paul's out there some where, but they really don't have a say on how things are handled in the grand scheme of things.

I respect Ben Carson, he really seems like a smart guy, and he is an amazing speaker, seen of a few of his youtube preachings, but I will never forget when he was asked, if vaccines cause autism, and he said something to the effect, people already had autism before the vaccine, or something to close to this. I think he cared more about his medical license, than the actual truth, but that was just my perspective.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/politics/ben-carson-vaccine-criticism/index.html
 
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Exactly right. I already had guns... I bought a plate carrier and body armor after January 6. I know it's going to come down to a fight between the federal government and the People.

There have actually been TWO civil wars in America: the War of Independence and the American Civil War. To say it couldn't happen again is simply naive and ignorant of the times. As you said, ALL the grievances which preceded BOTH of the previous civil wars are HERE NOW. Not in exactly the same form, but in spirit:

Taxation without representation. Privileged/protected elite ruling class. Corruption in high places. Unreasonable searches, seizures, imposition on one's person. States rights versus federal tyranny. A national sin (abortion). Intolerable acts. And a whole host of other factors which are new to our time and just as grievous. Vaccine mandates. Intentional breakdown of law and order. Unequal application of the law. Satanic cabal in federal government. Myriad sexual sins being pushed by the establishment. Federal cabal feeding racism via critical race theory, etc. Propaganda in entertainment, news media, and education. CIA protecting criminals and pedophiles. Etc. Etc.
Excellent summation,
 
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Exactly right. I already had guns... I bought a plate carrier and body armor after January 6. I know it's going to come down to a fight between the federal government and the People.

There have actually been TWO civil wars in America: the War of Independence and the American Civil War. To say it couldn't happen again is simply naive and ignorant of the times. As you said, ALL the grievances which preceded BOTH of the previous civil wars are HERE NOW. Not in exactly the same form, but in spirit:

Taxation without representation. Privileged/protected elite ruling class. Corruption in high places. Unreasonable searches, seizures, imposition on one's person. States rights versus federal tyranny. A national sin (abortion). Intolerable acts. And a whole host of other factors which are new to our time and just as grievous. Vaccine mandates. Intentional breakdown of law and order. Unequal application of the law. Satanic cabal in federal government. Myriad sexual sins being pushed by the establishment. Federal cabal feeding racism via critical race theory, etc. Propaganda in entertainment, news media, and education. CIA protecting criminals and pedophiles. Etc. Etc.
Many more reasons for discontent;

The border situation. Can you imagine the decrease in value of all the farm land along the border? Would you pay the price per acre garnered in another un affected area? No way.

Congressional members are not subjected to laws passed..... for all citizens?

Congressional members can spend only a short time in DC and get a whopping retirement/benefits and other treatments.

Non citizens are given benefits without limit...it seems.

If you have a business you may be required to support a cause by providing a svc. or product, which you disagree with.

...many, many more like reasons for dissatisfaction.
 
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The federal government is suppose to protect all citizens;....are the folks living and working along the border protected...as they lay in bed at night hearing people trespassing their land, killing their animals, stealing and destroying their equipment, etc?

Unbelievable.
 
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You absolutely nailed it, friend. A couple additional comments. The latin on the left gets a bit disputed and there are a few pretty viable interpretations. I have heard that "Annuit Coeptis" can be "He favors our venture" - the he being Lucifer and the venture being the new order of the ages.

Also it should be noted that if you connect the stars in the 13 illuminated stars you get the 6-pointed "Star of Remphan" which has nothing to do with David. It has 6 points, 6 triangles, and a 6-sided figure at the center. It features prominently on a certain US ally nation's blue and while flag. It is also a sacred symbol in Islam, Judaism, and Catholicism, which is very very interesting.

Oh, and connect the letters MASON on the left and get the inverted pentagram of the Baphomet.

Anyways, the real elites actually call themselves Luciferians. "Illuminati" has that same connotation of enlightenment.

But anyways, I'm done with voting unless I see that the electoral infrastructure gets repaired by 2022. Otherwise there is no point. This is not the America where I was born. I bought a vest and plates after January 6.
Terrible advice.
We must vote and fight ...or it is over for our democracy.
 

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Biden and many on the left have already painted all MAGA and parents who go to school board meetings as "domestic terrorists" and said that they need to make a list, censor them, deplatform them, fire them, cancel them, etc. They are now moving towards doing that with "the unvaccinated" claiming that they should not be allowed to work, allowed to enter a business, not even allowed to use the hospital.

This is what Bill Maher means when he says you can hate Trump but you can't hate everyone who voted for him. Maher understands that the left is trying to paint half the country as "deplorable" or as Hillary Clinton said "irredeemable".