Voting is a waste of time

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KrisWampler

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I say this as someone who was a candidate for public office five years ago and who genuinely believed that if you don't vote, you can't complain about the way government is (I now take the opposite view - if you DO vote, you cannot complain. You're the one who drove the clowns to the circus!).

Anyway, voting is a complete waste of time, energy, and interest. This was definitively proven to me after the fraud of 2020.

And before you say it wasn't a fraud - you may be right. Perhaps there was no significant fraud at all and Biden is the legit Vegetable-in-Chief. The problem is, the courts refused to hear any of this. The things that happened were fishy at best: kicking out poll watchers, blocking up viewing stations so the public could not observe ballot counting, "finding" hundreds and thousands of ballots in the middle of the night while others were found discarded, countless ballots with only the presidential selection made, and on and on and on. If democracy is the god that so many people in this country believe it to be, then these claims should have been examined.

Guess who largely refused to hear them? Republican-elected and -appointed state and federal judges. They didn't even want to consider allegations and refused to hear matters on it. They had the power to at least examine what were and still are credible claims of fraud. They did not. I, and many like me, now realize that elections are a sham and the process cannot and absolutely should not be trusted.

By the way, this fabled "red wave" many of you are pinning your hopes on will accomplish nothing. I've lived through several red waves since I became eligible to vote in 2002. It's always the same song and dance. "Look how terrible Democrats are! We gots ta vote Republican to fix this!" Then they get in and either do nothing by compromising or make the problem demonstrably worse.

All that has happened is the government has continued to waste money, grow exponentially, and curtail more and more basic liberties. Republicans are not interested in the radical reforms we would need to return this country to a republic (not "democracy"). Someone once observed that conservatism is just progressivism driving the speed limit. And that's true.

There's an obvious reason. As satanic as Democrats are - and they are all satanic - at least they are honest about what they want. They hate God, you, America, the family, decency, morality, capitalism, and freedom. They do not hide their contempt for these and other quintessential values. Nor do they care how they accomplish their objectives. Voter fraud? Voter intimidation and threats? Executive orders so their "president" can govern like a king? Cancel culture and character assassination of opponents? All this and more are fair game because their satanic religion demands it.

Meanwhile Republicans are Mr. Good Guy. They believe in THE SANCTITY OF THE INSTITUTIONS and other gobbledygook. They believe in stuff like WELL AH DONT AGREE WITH MAH OPPONENT BUT AH RESPECT HIS RIGHT TO BE THAT WAY and other Mr. Good Guy platitudes about tolerance and respect for a group of people who have nothing but abject hatred to pay them with. The left and right are enemies, but only one side seems to realize this.

Even when they win, Republicans are useless. They are not interested in doing anything they promise because then you won't have a reason to vote for them. For example, they have had the power several times to ban abortion yet have refused. Why? They know that banning abortion is the number one reason most evangelicals vote to elect Republicans. MUH SUPREME COURT NOMINEES!! The Supreme Court is 6-3 "conservative" and can't do anything but side with liberals, thanks to traitor and probable pedophile John Roberts and the other weaklings on there.

You can vote if you want. It's your right to live in a delusion. But I'm telling you now, nothing will change. 10 election cycles from now you'll still be falling for this con while the grifters continue profiting off of your votes by buying and selling access to government. This country, to the extent it is still a country, is run by banks, corporations, and lobbyists. Not you. "If voting actually changed anything, it would be illegal."
 

kinda

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I say this as someone who was a candidate for public office five years ago and who genuinely believed that if you don't vote, you can't complain about the way government is (I now take the opposite view - if you DO vote, you cannot complain. You're the one who drove the clowns to the circus!).

Anyway, voting is a complete waste of time, energy, and interest. This was definitively proven to me after the fraud of 2020.

And before you say it wasn't a fraud - you may be right. Perhaps there was no significant fraud at all and Biden is the legit Vegetable-in-Chief. The problem is, the courts refused to hear any of this. The things that happened were fishy at best: kicking out poll watchers, blocking up viewing stations so the public could not observe ballot counting, "finding" hundreds and thousands of ballots in the middle of the night while others were found discarded, countless ballots with only the presidential selection made, and on and on and on. If democracy is the god that so many people in this country believe it to be, then these claims should have been examined.

Guess who largely refused to hear them? Republican-elected and -appointed state and federal judges. They didn't even want to consider allegations and refused to hear matters on it. They had the power to at least examine what were and still are credible claims of fraud. They did not. I, and many like me, now realize that elections are a sham and the process cannot and absolutely should not be trusted.

By the way, this fabled "red wave" many of you are pinning your hopes on will accomplish nothing. I've lived through several red waves since I became eligible to vote in 2002. It's always the same song and dance. "Look how terrible Democrats are! We gots ta vote Republican to fix this!" Then they get in and either do nothing by compromising or make the problem demonstrably worse.

All that has happened is the government has continued to waste money, grow exponentially, and curtail more and more basic liberties. Republicans are not interested in the radical reforms we would need to return this country to a republic (not "democracy"). Someone once observed that conservatism is just progressivism driving the speed limit. And that's true.

There's an obvious reason. As satanic as Democrats are - and they are all satanic - at least they are honest about what they want. They hate God, you, America, the family, decency, morality, capitalism, and freedom. They do not hide their contempt for these and other quintessential values. Nor do they care how they accomplish their objectives. Voter fraud? Voter intimidation and threats? Executive orders so their "president" can govern like a king? Cancel culture and character assassination of opponents? All this and more are fair game because their satanic religion demands it.

Meanwhile Republicans are Mr. Good Guy. They believe in THE SANCTITY OF THE INSTITUTIONS and other gobbledygook. They believe in stuff like WELL AH DONT AGREE WITH MAH OPPONENT BUT AH RESPECT HIS RIGHT TO BE THAT WAY and other Mr. Good Guy platitudes about tolerance and respect for a group of people who have nothing but abject hatred to pay them with. The left and right are enemies, but only one side seems to realize this.

Even when they win, Republicans are useless. They are not interested in doing anything they promise because then you won't have a reason to vote for them. For example, they have had the power several times to ban abortion yet have refused. Why? They know that banning abortion is the number one reason most evangelicals vote to elect Republicans. MUH SUPREME COURT NOMINEES!! The Supreme Court is 6-3 "conservative" and can't do anything but side with liberals, thanks to traitor and probable pedophile John Roberts and the other weaklings on there.

You can vote if you want. It's your right to live in a delusion. But I'm telling you now, nothing will change. 10 election cycles from now you'll still be falling for this con while the grifters continue profiting off of your votes by buying and selling access to government. This country, to the extent it is still a country, is run by banks, corporations, and lobbyists. Not you. "If voting actually changed anything, it would be illegal."
I have reached the same conclusion as you Kris regarding politics and voting. I didn't vote last election and it was wonderful, didn't get my mail in ballot. About 20 years ago, I told my brother that I don't believe in politics, he said it was my job to vote to help change things. Looking back at it now, my brother gave me horrible advice.

I considered myself Libertarian, since my brother told me I was Libertarian, and later found out that pretty much everything I believed in, lined up with the Libertarian Party, with some reservation of course. I think your political leanings are what you were born with, at least for me. In high school, people really started getting into politics, and I didn't know what the big deal was. It was just people's opinions about things.

As of now, my political leanings would be a Libertarian-Monarchist. Why someone might ask? Well, God allows everyone to make their own choices on how to live, but Jesus is Lord of Lords, and King of Kinds. So, by definition a Christian is a Monarchist and I think, since God allows people to choose how to live, that also makes Christians, Libertarian. Well, at least this is my view.

People will save themselves much heartache, once they realize politics is rigged, controlled by special interest groups, the elite, corporations, and guided by Lucifer.



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KrisWampler

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I have reached the same conclusion as you Kris regarding politics and voting. I didn't vote last election and it was wonderful, didn't get my mail in ballot. About 20 years ago, I told my brother that I don't believe in politics, he said it was my job to vote to help change things. Looking back at it now, my brother gave me horrible advice.

I considered myself Libertarian, since my brother told me I was Libertarian, and later found out that pretty much everything I believed lined up with the Libertarian Party, with some reservation of course. I think your political leanings are what you were born with, at least for me. In high school, people really started getting into politics, and I didn't know why the big deal was. It was just people's opinions about things.

As of now, my political leanings would be a Libertarian-Monarchist. Why someone might ask? Well, God allows everyone to make their own choices on how to live, but Jesus is Lord of Lords, and King of Kinds. So, by definition a Christian is a Monarchist and I think, since God allows people to choose how to live, that also makes Christians, Libertarian. Well, at least this is my view.

People will save themselves much heartache, once they realize politics is rigged, controlled by special interest groups, the elite, corporations, and guided by Lucifer.



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Agree 100%
 

ZNP

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i have no issue with anyone in the US who refuses to vote. However, I would argue that it is your responsibility to make sure no one else votes with your ballot.

So even though you are not going to vote for the candidates I think it is still a civic responsibility to go down, sign your name, make sure no one voted in your name, and then fill out a ballot. You can do a write in vote, you can vote for Jesus, just make sure you are not part of the fraud. In school if you allow the kid to copy off your page you cannot claim that you "didn't cheat". Not true, you were half of the equation.

If you don't do that then this whole argument is simply a self justification for the lazy people.
 
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KrisWampler

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i have no issue with anyone in the US who refuses to vote. However, I would argue that it is your responsibility to make sure no one else votes with your ballot.

So even though you are not going to vote for the candidates I think it is still a civic responsibility to go down, sign your name, make sure no one voted in your name, and then fill out a ballot. You can do a write in vote, you can vote for Jesus, just make sure you are not part of the fraud. In school if you allow the kid to copy off your page you cannot claim that you "didn't cheat". Not true, you were half of the equation.
If someone wants to use my name, I couldn't care less. I've washed my hands of this system. In fact, I hope tons of fraud is committed so people realize how much of a scam it all is. Anything that lessens people's "faith" in the false god of democracy is great.
 
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Oblio

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I'm so bright you'd better get out your welder's goggles!
I thought that I was the only libertarian jaded by reality on this forum! Lol
 
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KrisWampler

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I'm so bright you'd better get out your welder's goggles!
I thought that I was the only libertarian jaded by reality on this forum! Lol
My mistake I misread you. Sorry.
 
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Oblio

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The last time I voted, I helped elect Justin Trudeau. I'm working really hard on forgiving myself...it's not easy! Lol Oh well!
 
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Oblio

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Glad to meet you, Kris...my name is Truman.
 

kinda

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The last time I voted, I helped elect Justin Trudeau. I'm working really hard on forgiving myself...it's not easy! Lol Oh well!
I'm so bright you'd better get out your welder's goggles!
I thought that I was the only libertarian jaded by reality on this forum! Lol


As an official member of the Libertarian Party, I'm revoking your Libertarian Party registration, for voting for Justin Trudeau. lol

How could you? I just don't see how a Libertarian would see any freedom voting for Trudeau. You lean a little Liberalish-Libertarian?

To be honest, I voted for George W., and Donald Trump. My excuse was all the Christian radio stations were saying, how much George W. was Christian, and as far as Trump was concerned, some Libertarian voices were saying, he is the guy. Both were a big disappointment in some ways, but I always thought George W. was hilarious as far as a personality, as Trump did help the economy, Christian rights/views, and cut taxes.

To defend my voting registration, I did vote for Bob Barr, Gary Johnson, and Ron Paul. Ron Paul will always be my favorite politician. I had some serious star struck, when he spoke.
 

kinda

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Leader of BC Libertarian Party moves to file hate crime charges against Justin Trudeau
January 7, 2022 toronto99_328v30
Mark Slapinski
BC Libertarian leader Keith MacIntyre has moved to file hate crimes charges against Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. MacIntyre announced Tuesday that he has sent a letter to the Attorney General asking for “hate crimes” charges against the PM. The Attorney General has yet to respond.
Justin Trudeau is under fire after a viral clip showed him referring to unvaccinated people as “misogynists” and “racists.” Trudeau’s comments received significant backlash, earning the PM another column by Rex Murphy, where he stated, “it is never right for the leader of a country to launch a furious invective against an entire subset of citizens.”

https://www.toronto99.com/2022/01/0...le-hate-crime-charges-against-justin-trudeau/

This Keith MacIntyre looks like he is trying to make a name for himself.
 
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Oblio

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Nice to meet you Truman. Hope you are well.
It was back when I thought politicians were all the same. I was never interested in politics until one day in June, 2016 when for some reason, I started watching American politics, which I'd always thought was more boring than Canadian politics. My early favorite was Ben Carson. I really like that guy!
 

kinda

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It was back when I thought politicians were all the same. I was never interested in politics until one day in June, 2016 when for some reason, I started watching American politics, which I'd always thought was more boring than Canadian politics. My early favorite was Ben Carson. I really like that guy!
Ben Carson seems like he was always the smartest guy in the room. He is also a Seventh Day Adventist. Suppose to be one heck of a doctor also.
 
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Oblio

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Leader of BC Libertarian Party moves to file hate crime charges against Justin Trudeau
January 7, 2022 toronto99_328v30
Mark Slapinski
BC Libertarian leader Keith MacIntyre has moved to file hate crimes charges against Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. MacIntyre announced Tuesday that he has sent a letter to the Attorney General asking for “hate crimes” charges against the PM. The Attorney General has yet to respond.
Justin Trudeau is under fire after a viral clip showed him referring to unvaccinated people as “misogynists” and “racists.” Trudeau’s comments received significant backlash, earning the PM another column by Rex Murphy, where he stated, “it is never right for the leader of a country to launch a furious invective against an entire subset of citizens.”

https://www.toronto99.com/2022/01/0...le-hate-crime-charges-against-justin-trudeau/

This Keith MacIntyre looks like he is trying to make a name for himself.
I can't believe he said that. SMH It just shows what we already know...he's a communist sell-out. There's nothing I'd like more than to see him and your guy in the same cell. I'm glad someone had the guts to stand up!
 

kinda

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I can't believe he said that. SMH It just shows what we already know...he's a communist sell-out. There's nothing I'd like more than to see him and your guy in the same cell. I'm glad someone had the guts to stand up!
I don't think the Attorney General will do anything, except maybe start an investigation on Keith MacIntyre. I would love to be proven wrong regarding the David Lametti though.
 

ZNP

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I don't think the Attorney General will do anything, except maybe start an investigation on Keith MacIntyre. I would love to be proven wrong regarding the David Lametti though.
What about having a committee do an investigation with a whole lot of press conferences, subpoenas, and talk shows, followed by a whole set of campaign ads about how they are "cleaning up the swamp"? You don't have to actually do anything, the attention span of the average citizen will be off on something else soon enough.
 
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Oblio

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I don't think the Attorney General will do anything, except maybe start an investigation on Keith MacIntyre. I would love to be proven wrong regarding the David Lametti though.
You sound like you know Canadian politics...kinda reminds me of American politics. I'd love to be proven wrong about numerous things!