Unconditional love and the church's approach to homosexuality

[H3n0515]

What comes will come, for now... God

 

[H3n0515]

1 John 4:18 I think...

fear is about punishment

love drives out fear

god is love

 

[H3n0515]

Fear is the only reason to try to figure out the future

 

[Mark47Oz]

Of course the section asserts "where there is prophecy it will fall away"

The past and future are irrelevant, the Spirit is life, those only exist in the mind

Yes, prophesy does fall away because it is fulfilled and then becomes irrelevant because it has passed.

It doesn't mean we should ignore it though. It simply means we need to make sure it's current and relevant.

And no, fear of the future is not the reason for prophesy. God loves us so much that he sends messengers to warn us we're going down the wrong path so that we may listen and change. The future that is predicted will only happen if we don't heed the advice.

 

[H3n0515]

Yes, prophesy does fall away because it is fulfilled and then becomes irrelevant because it has passed.

It doesn't mean we should ignore it though. It simply means we need to make sure it's current and relevant.

What changes about today by knowing it?

 

[H3n0515]

Matt 6:34

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

 

[H3n0515]

Also, since it's a prophecy it'll happen no matter what I do

If you can do something about it there is no need to worry, if you can't there is no point

 

[H3n0515]

It actually calls your mode of thought "like a child" in verse 10 I think

 

[Mark47Oz]

Also, since it's a prophecy it'll happen no matter what I do

If you can do something about it there is no need to worry, if you can't there is no point

So, if God sent an angel into your room and said angel showed you what would happen if you kept on living the life of sin you are, would you listen and try to change or just give up and say 'oh well, it's going to happen anyway' ?

 

[H3n0515]

Well, 10 and 11 together are good but its the latter

1 Corinthians 13:10-11 (for copy paste)

 

[H3n0515]

So, if God sent an angel into your room and said angel showed you what would happen if you kept on living the life of sin you are, would you listen and try to change or just give up and say 'oh well, it's going to happen anyway' ?

I am not in sin presently

 

[Mark47Oz]

Well, 10 and 11 together are good but its the latter

1 Corinthians 13:10-11 (for copy paste)

Matthew 18:3

And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

I'm doing exactly what Jesus said to do. Thinking in simple, childlike terms.

 

[H3n0515]

Indeed, by definition, I am an angel

The word means "messenger of God"

I am conveying God

It became something weird after such that this will be taken as absurd by many

 

[H3n0515]

Matthew 18:3

And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

I'm doing exactly what Jesus said to do. Thinking in simple, childlike terms.

This is about innocence, not ignorance

Thinking childishly is just lacking reason

Which, coincidently, is an actual translation of logos

 

[H3n0515]

You will note much of what I say is in very simple language, I am direct and brief

I understand what I'm saying, I am not just echoing something else

I do, however, play soccer often for fun... the guys I play with say I'm like a child because I'm so enthralled in playing, even before and after games

What is often called "in the zone" is alignment with Spirit

The ego has dropped

 

[Mark47Oz]

Indeed, by definition, I am an angel

The word means "messenger of God"

I am conveying God

It became something weird after such that this will be taken as absurd by many

You speak like a mystic, yet your thoughts are erratic and not well formed plus you bomb this thread with multiple posts that could be rolled into one if you slowed down a little.

You can quote scripture yes, but it doesn't mean you are right. Even Satan knows the Bible - he tried to use it against Jesus in the desert.

 

[H3n0515]

You speak like a mystic, yet your thoughts are erratic and not well formed plus you bomb this thread with multiple posts that could be rolled into one if you slowed down a little.

You can quote scripture yes, but it doesn't mean you are right. Even Satan knows the Bible - he tried to use it against Jesus in the desert.

Certainly, I am a mystic

It is not the first time this has been said, but my reponse is simple:

You ask me to interfere with God, I cannot

 

[H3n0515]

I use scripture to minimize argument

You cannot say I am wrong if that's what the bible says

You can interpret it differently, lets talk about it

 

[H3n0515]

Also, I want to ensure I am not glorified

That is for Jesus

 

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If he had not prayed for me (John 17:20-26) this would be impossible