WE are judged by what we do vs. we are saved by faith alone.

[GodMyFortress]

1 John 5:16-17 NLT
[16] If you see a fellow believer sinning in a way that does not lead to death, you should pray, and God will give that person life. But there is a sin that leads to death, and I am not saying you should pray for those who commit it. [17] All wicked actions are sin, but not every sin leads to death.

I don’t know how to tell if a believer is sinning a sin that leads to death or not lead to death, do you?
I would pray for a brother regardless, if I see him sinning, wouldn’t you?

It’s one of the most interesting verses in the Bible in my opinion because it’s categorizing sin by severity. Here are sins that lead to death according to the New Testament:

Matthew 18:35 (unforgiveness)
1 Cor 6:9-10 (multiple)
Gal 5:19-21 (multiple)
Eph 5:3-6 (multiple)
Matt 25:41-46 (multiple)
Rev. 22:12-16 (multiple)
Matthew 19:18-19 (multiple)

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
No one has ever been saved by "inviting Jesus into their heart". So I ask you to cite and quote any verse where you think that is.

15 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

Remind in me, as I also remind in you

How Jesus remind in you if you never invite Him.

You are missing the point.

One is saved by faith in Christ, not by inviting Him into your heart.

What verse told you to invite Him into your heart?

 

[FreeGrace2]

You say, you did answer but I keep ask, now you say you don't understand my question

If you don't understand my question why you answer.

You keep rephrasing your questions. And the one I said I didn't understand was because your rephrasing was not understandable to me.

btw, why do you keep asking the same question? You note that I answered, so why do you persist?

 

[Jackson123]

Judgment falls under law, not a Gospel promise.

Mathew is gospel

 

[Jackson123]

FreeGrace2 said:
No one has ever been saved by "inviting Jesus into their heart". So I ask you to cite and quote any verse where you think that is.

You are missing the point.

One is saved by faith in Christ, not by inviting Him into your heart.

What verse told you to invite Him into your heart?

John 15
4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

As I remain in you

How Jesus remain in if you not invite in

 

[crossnote]

It’s one of the most interesting verses in the Bible in my opinion because it’s categorizing sin by severity. Here are sins that lead to death according to the New Testament:

Matthew 18:35 (unforgiveness)
1 Cor 6:9-10 (multiple)
Gal 5:19-21 (multiple)
Eph 5:3-6 (multiple)
Matt 25:41-46 (multiple)
Rev. 22:12-16 (multiple)
Matthew 19:18-19 (multiple)

I guess that’s why so many ask‘what is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?’

Mark 3:28-29 NKJV
[28] "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; [29] but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"-

 

[crossnote]

Mathew is gospel

And Moses is law, what’s that supposed to prove?
You should say, “One of the Gospel accounts is called Matthew.”

This is the Gospel by which we are saved…

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 NKJV
[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, [2] by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. [3] For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, [4] and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,


John 3:16 NKJV
[16] For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

 

[GodMyFortress]

I guess that’s why so many ask‘what is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?’

Mark 3:28-29 NKJV
[28] "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; [29] but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"-

Yep, that’s clearly a big one there. All those others mentioned in the verses above can be forgiven even though they’re serious ....clearly there are eternal consequences for not seeking forgiveness.

 

[Jackson123]

And Moses is law, what’s that supposed to prove?
You should say, “One of the Gospel accounts is called Matthew.”

This is the Gospel by which we are saved…

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 NKJV
[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, [2] by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. [3] For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, [4] and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,


John 3:16 NKJV
[16] For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

We have believe complete gospel and the last judgment is part of the Gospel
Anyway I don't think Moses create a law. Moses only say what God say. All the so call Moses law is God law.

 

[FreeGrace2]

John 15
4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

As I remain in you

How Jesus remain in if you not invite in

I already explained this question from you. Why do you keep repeating your questions?

I asked for any verse where salvation is based on inviting Jesus in. Do you have any?

 

[Jackson123]

I already explained this question from you. Why do you keep repeating your questions?

I asked for any verse where salvation is based on inviting Jesus in. Do you have any?

Read that verse Jesus remain in you not by force, only if you invite in

 

[crossnote]

We have believe complete gospel and the last judgment is part of the Gospel
Anyway I don't think Moses create a law. Moses only say what God say. All the so call Moses law is God law.

The Gospel is generally stated in terms of what God has done for mankind, wheras the law is in terms of what man is required to do. You definitely have these categories confused.

May I ask what Church is teaching you? I’d like to know, so I can stay away.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Read that verse Jesus remain in you not by force, only if you invite in

I asked you for the verse that SAYS to "invite Jesus in".

Again, do you have any verses? Or is this just your own opinion?

 

[Jackson123]

The Gospel is generally stated in terms of what God has done for mankind, wheras the law is in terms of what man is required to do. You definitely have these categories confused.

May I ask what Church is teaching you? I’d like to know, so I can stay away.

I don't understand why question do you believe last judgement where Jesus sai in Matt consider gospel?Let me ask same question to you, what church you going to so I can stay away?

 

[Jackson123]

I asked you for the verse that SAYS to "invite Jesus in".

Again, do you have any verses? Or is this just your own opinion?

Read the verse I give you and answer my question did Jesus ever force get in or only when you invite

John 15
4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

As I(Jesus) remain in you

One more time
Jesus remain in you by force or need your invitation?

 

[Jackson123]

FreeGrace2 said:
No one has ever been saved by "inviting Jesus into their heart". So I ask you to cite and quote any verse where you think that is.

You are missing the point.

One is saved by faith in Christ, not by inviting Him into your heart.

What verse told you to invite Him into your heart?

You don't understand what faith us, faith mean trust to the point surrender, invite Jesus to be the leader

 

[GodMyFortress]

You don't understand what faith us, faith mean trust to the point surrender, invite Jesus to be the leader

Hey Brother, I’ve been reading your posts and I’m glad to see you’re not giving in 👍.

The reason why you’re getting so much opposition is because someone that believes in eternal security simply can’t believe you need obedience to God in order to be saved. If you need obedience, then the argument for eternal security is shattered. Good luck though! Maybe you’ll get through.

 

[crossnote]

I don't understand why question do you believe last judgement where Jesus sai in Matt consider gospel? Let me ask same question to you, what church you going to so I can stay away?

It looks like you have successfully avoided any Church that has a sound understanding of the difference between law and Gospel.
Here is where Judgment fits into the Gospel message...

John 5:24 (NASB) "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

But you want me to believe that judgment is part of the Gospel? You need to spend less time on forums and more time with God's Word.
Actually, that's good advice for all of us.

 

[crossnote]

Hey Brother, I’ve been reading your posts and I’m glad to see you’re not giving in 👍.

The reason why you’re getting so much opposition is because someone that believes in eternal security simply can’t believe you need obedience to God in order to be saved. If you need obedience, then the argument for eternal security is shattered. Good luck though! Maybe you’ll get through.

The reason I believe in eternal security are verses like this...

Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
(Php 1:6)

Besides, OSNAS begs the question, "What must I do to be lost?"

 

[GodMyFortress]

Besides, OSNAS begs the question, "What must I do to be lost?"

That’s a beautiful verse you quoted. And it is God’s truth but how we understand it has to be harmonized with other verses.
Matthew 19:18-19
Matthew 18:35
1 Cor 6:9-10
Gal 5:19-21
Eph 5:3-6
Matthew 25:41-46
Rev. 22:12-16

All those verses tell us what becomes of those who live an unrepentant and unrighteous life. That especially goes for Christians.