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Salvation by grace.
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved
Paul's justification doctrine:
Justification through faith (God's gift) for good works (God's preparation):
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 ... through faith... the gift of God, ... 10 ... for good works, which God prepared ...
James' justification doctrine:
Faith (God's gift) by itself, if it does not have works (God's preparation), is dead:
James 2 (ESV)
17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
Paul's and James' justification doctrines corresponds, as it should.
Also hark Peter's warning of clarity regarding justification:
2 Peter 3 (ESV)
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
and most important, the warning of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah himself:
Matthew 7 (ESV)
15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. 21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved
Paul's justification doctrine:
Justification through faith (God's gift) for good works (God's preparation):
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 ... through faith... the gift of God, ... 10 ... for good works, which God prepared ...
James' justification doctrine:
Faith (God's gift) by itself, if it does not have works (God's preparation), is dead:
James 2 (ESV)
17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
Paul's and James' justification doctrines corresponds, as it should.
Also hark Peter's warning of clarity regarding justification:
2 Peter 3 (ESV)
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
and most important, the warning of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah himself:
Matthew 7 (ESV)
15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. 21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Any time that you make statements about God and his character that contradicts scripture, that is working against God, which you are doing.
I am telling regenerated people that the natural man, before he has been regenerated, cannot discern the things of the Spirit, 1 Cor 2:14. The natural man would not understand what I was talking about, if I were talking to him.
I am telling regenerated people that the natural man, before he has been regenerated, cannot discern the things of the Spirit, 1 Cor 2:14. The natural man would not understand what I was talking about, if I were talking to him.
Paul is not our saviour, Christ / Messiah is.
Paul can be misunderstood if you read into it what you want to hear.
I do not "observe" the Torah / God's commands / the will of the Father, I try to walk in them, as Yeshua ha'Maschiach showed the way, and commanded to follow us and do the same. The Torah is about God's love for us. Is there anything in the Torah that does not profess God's love for us?
All verses from Peter, Paul and James (I'll give you a very well known one's context at the end of this post from John as well, also after the cross) is after the cross, except those that Jesus himself said. Jesus taught this, about when you will meet him again at judgement at your death after the cross:
Matthew 7 (ESV)
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Ps Can you enter the kingdom of heaven before the cross? This is a scenario that plays out after the cross.)
John 3 (ESV)
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God."
The elect is saved by God's grace, through God-given faith, for God-prepared works.
Paul can be misunderstood if you read into it what you want to hear.
I do not "observe" the Torah / God's commands / the will of the Father, I try to walk in them, as Yeshua ha'Maschiach showed the way, and commanded to follow us and do the same. The Torah is about God's love for us. Is there anything in the Torah that does not profess God's love for us?
All verses from Peter, Paul and James (I'll give you a very well known one's context at the end of this post from John as well, also after the cross) is after the cross, except those that Jesus himself said. Jesus taught this, about when you will meet him again at judgement at your death after the cross:
Matthew 7 (ESV)
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Ps Can you enter the kingdom of heaven before the cross? This is a scenario that plays out after the cross.)
John 3 (ESV)
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God."
The elect is saved by God's grace, through God-given faith, for God-prepared works.
The analogy was used to show ( Just like the prodigal) we can recognise our pigsty and call out to the one to save us from our slop . This is the Gospel appeal to be reconciled. What you have swallowed with passion , is reformed philosophy masquerading as Christianity . Which instead of God saving those who believe turns this into God causing believe in those he saves. Because of Augustines T .
These are all from the New Testament / Brit Chadashah:
All verses from Peter, Paul and James (I'll give you a very well known one's context at the end of this post from John as well, also after the cross) is after the cross, except those that Jesus himself said. Jesus taught this, about when you will meet him again at judgement at your death after the cross:
Matthew 7 (ESV)
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Ps Can you enter the kingdom of heaven before the cross? This is a scenario that plays out after the cross.)
John 3 (ESV)
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God."
The elect is saved by God's grace, through God-given faith, for God-prepared works.
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, ... 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
All verses from Peter, Paul and James (I'll give you a very well known one's context at the end of this post from John as well, also after the cross) is after the cross, except those that Jesus himself said. Jesus taught this, about when you will meet him again at judgement at your death after the cross:
Matthew 7 (ESV)
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Ps Can you enter the kingdom of heaven before the cross? This is a scenario that plays out after the cross.)
John 3 (ESV)
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God."
The elect is saved by God's grace, through God-given faith, for God-prepared works.
Ephesians 2 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, ... 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Guess what! the son who took his inheritance and wasted it, was always his father's son, even in the pig pen. He recognized his sin and repented to his father. The natural man, who is not God's son, does not have a spiritual conscience to repent of breaking a spiritual law that he cannot understand. Until he has been born again to a spiritual life.
God's elect, when they are born into this world, by natural birth, are born as natural men, until God regenerates them. The elect were saved eternally by Christ's death on the cross, in a covenant relationship, which secured their inheritance of heaven. From the cross to their death, God looks upon the elect as holy, and without blame.
God's elect, when they are born into this world, by natural birth, are born as natural men, until God regenerates them. The elect were saved eternally by Christ's death on the cross, in a covenant relationship, which secured their inheritance of heaven. From the cross to their death, God looks upon the elect as holy, and without blame.
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If you do a word search ( try now ) on the words( not doctrines man has given upon words ) Choose , elect, chosen ect EVERY TIME its the Jews or purpose and service. NEVER refers to salvation / conversion ( to be saved ) . NOT ONCE .So you have a faulty starting point EVERY time you use the word ' elect ' . This is the problem with Calminism .