Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Calvinism misses the point - salvation is either by works or grace. If we used the word choice instead of election (and choice is one of the Greek definitions) we can see what Paul is saying more plainly:
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the choice of grace.
Paul is stating that God chose grace and NOT works for the means of salvation for those who put their faith in him. No faith no grace.
It's really simple. Paul's letters deal with works vs faith otherwise he is willing that many will perish (2 Pet 3:9) states he's not willing.
Calvinism is making people the target of "election/choice" for salvation rather than the means of salvation of the people.
So disagree.
Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Calvinism misses the point - salvation is either by works or grace. If we used the word choice instead of election (and choice is one of the Greek definitions) we can see what Paul is saying more plainly:
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the choice of grace.
Paul is stating that God chose grace and NOT works for the means of salvation for those who put their faith in him. No faith no grace.
It's really simple. Paul's letters deal with works vs faith otherwise he is willing that many will perish (2 Pet 3:9) states he's not willing.
Calvinism is making people the target of "election/choice" for salvation rather than the means of salvation of the people.
So disagree.
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You twist scripture prety bad.
the seal spoken of there is the fact God knows who are his, not the same as In Ephesians 1. Totally different context,
however. If your right, and it is the same, then calvinism is proven because the seal of the spirit is on,y given to to those the lord chose, And he knows who they are, faith has nothing to do with it.
the seal spoken of there is the fact God knows who are his, not the same as In Ephesians 1. Totally different context,
however. If your right, and it is the same, then calvinism is proven because the seal of the spirit is on,y given to to those the lord chose, And he knows who they are, faith has nothing to do with it.
Scripture defines itself with words. The Lord's seal is his Holy Spirit. It seals the believer for the day of redemption, the adoption of sons.
Ephesians 1
3 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
We have been purchased with a price. God's given us His Holy Spirit which is His guarantee that the redemption will occur. The Spirit is the earnest, the down payment of God.
Ephesians 1
3 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
We have been purchased with a price. God's given us His Holy Spirit which is His guarantee that the redemption will occur. The Spirit is the earnest, the down payment of God.
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