Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

[John146]

He knew my heart before I was born, yes?

How? Did you make decisions before you were born? In the womb?

 

[John146]

He knew my heart before I was born, yes?

Using Scripture, define omniscience.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes that is what R C Sproul teaches, however that is not what scripture teaches... God does not select a certain group for salvation.
If He selects a certain group then by default He does not select another.

Not true

if he selects a group based on his will, then by default, those who do not Come to that will chose themselves,
it was gods will that whoever believed would have eternal life

y default them whoever does Not believe Are not selected for hell, they sent themselves to hell, that’s why God says i. Romans 1 they have no excuse,

 

[OIC1965]

Nope. Only those in Christ. Paul is talking to those who have already trusted Christ.

There you go. Romans 828. All things work together for good to them that love the Lord who are the called according to his purpose for whom God did forknow, He did predestinate, And whom he predestinated he called etc.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

He knew my heart before I was born, yes?

Good luck, John can get on your nerves, I have to back out of the conversation with him,I pray god can use you to pry open whats the truth

 

[OIC1965]

Using Scripture, define omniscience.

All knowledge. Known unto God are all His works. Acts 16 something.

 

[throughfaith]

Did God know Cyrus before he was born? When did God predestinate what Cyrus would do for the Jews?

How about Jeremiah? Did God foreknow and predestinate Jeremiah before he was born?

inductive reasoning here . This is the basis for many false teachings within Calvinism . An 8 year old boy is seen doing 50 back flips in a row , therefore all 8 year old boys can do 50 back flips in a row .

 

[OIC1965]

Using Scripture, define omniscience.

Better yet. Isaiah 41:21-23 states that Omniscience is a necessary attribute to anyone or anything would be called a God, and that the LORD alone is God, because He not only knows what happened in the past, but also why it happened, and He can also infallibly declare things to come.

 

[OIC1965]

inductive reasoning here . This is the basis for many false teachings within Calvinism . An 8 year old boy is seen doing 50 back flips in a row , therefore all 8 year old boys can do 50 back flips in a row .

So the fact that God can do something is not a basis for believing God can do something?

 

[throughfaith]

So the fact that God can do something is not a basis for believing God can do something?

Its not the basis in which to conclude that God does the same thing in the same way in all instances. This is why Calvinism leans so heavily on the Lydia narrative ect m

 

[OIC1965]

inductive reasoning here . This is the basis for many false teachings within Calvinism . An 8 year old boy is seen doing 50 back flips in a row , therefore all 8 year old boys can do 50 back flips in a row .

How many things does God work after the council of His Will Ephesians 1:11

 

[EleventhHour]

Its not the basis in which to conclude that God does the same thing in the same way in all instances. This is why Calvinism leans so heavily on the Lydia narrative ect m

Every time.. so true... how she is always put forth.
Same script .. I find that very interesting.

 

[OIC1965]

Its not the basis in which to conclude that God does the same thing in the same way in all instances. This is why Calvinism leans so heavily on the Lydia narrative ect m

How many things does God work after the council of His Will?

A. All
B. None
C. Some.
D. Many

 

[OIC1965]

Every time.. so true... how she is always put forth.
Same script .. I find that very interesting.

When did God first love you? Did He know your name before you were conceived? Did the Father know Jesus was praying for you when He said “ I pray for those who will believe through their word” in John 17?

 

[John146]

There you go. Romans 828. All things work together for good to them that love the Lord who are the called according to his purpose for whom God did forknow, He did predestinate, And whom he predestinated he called etc.

God foreknows them that are going to be part of the future adoption. That's foreknowledge! The adoption has not happened, yet God has knowledge of those who will be adopted.

How does God know who are His? Allow Scripture to tell us...

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

God knows those who are His by the seal of the Holy Spirit He has placed within every believer. Now that's Scripture!

 

[OIC1965]

God foreknows them that are going to be part of the future adoption. That's foreknowledge! The adoption has not happened, yet God has knowledge of those who will be adopted.

How does God know who are His? Allow Scripture to tell us...

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

God knows those who are His by the seal of the Holy Spirit He has placed within every believer. Now that's Scripture!

You would think Paul would have said what he meant by “this seal” in the context. And he did. And he’s not talking about what you say he is.

Where do you see “seal of the Spirit” in this context. Or that God knows who are His because of a seal.

Not there.

 

[John146]

You would think Paul would have said what he meant by “this seal” in the context. And he did. And he’s not talking about what you say he is.

Good thing Scripture defines it for us. No guess work here...

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

God's seal is the Holy Spirit.

 

[OIC1965]

Here’s another verse.

2 Timothy 1:8-10

 

[EleventhHour]

When did God first love you? Did He know your name before you were conceived? Did the Father know Jesus was praying for you when He said “ I pray for those who will believe through their word” in John 17?

The only concept I am addressing it the concept >>>>>>> that God chooses a certain group for salvation.

 

[OIC1965]

Good thing Scripture defines it for us. No guess work here...

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

God's seal is the Holy Spirit.

Out of context.

The Timothy passage does not say seal of the believer. It says seal of the foundation of God. In other words, the false teachings mentioned in previous verses cannot shake the foundation of God, which stands, having this seal;

The Lord knows who are His etc.