Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

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John146

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OIC1965 said:
Out of context.

The Timothy passage does not say seal of the believer. It says seal of the foundation of God. In other words, the false teachings mentioned in previous verses cannot shake the foundation of God, which stands, having this seal;

The Lord knows who are His etc.
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The Holy Spirit is the seal of God. That's Scripture! God's seal is not the Holy Spirit in one passage and then something else in another.

How does God know who are His? The Holy Spirit that He has placed within every believer! Amen!
 
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OIC1965

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John146 said:
The Holy Spirit is the seal of God. That's Scripture! God's seal is not the Holy Spirit in one passage and then something else in another.

How does God know who are His? The Holy Spirit that He has placed within every believer! Amen!
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When do you ever see the pronoun “this” in a passage where the noun that it replaces is NOT IN THE CONTEXT?

A pronoun replaces a noun that is in the context. So where is seal of Spirit in the context of 2 Timothy 2?
 
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OIC1965

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EleventhHour said:
God is not a respecter of persons.

God does not play favorites when it comes to salvation.
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Spoken by Peter, Acts 10. Followed by, “ but in every nation, they that fear Him and do what is right is welcome to Him.

Elect from every nation under heaven.
 
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OIC1965 said:
Spoken by Peter, Acts 10. Followed by, “ but in every nation, they that fear Him and do what is right is welcome to Him.

Elect from every nation under heaven.
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Elect does not mean selected.

It is a descriptor.

If means those who believed and are in Him.
 
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EleventhHour

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John146 said:
Only those in Christ are chosen, not before, but after they are in Christ. No one is chosen to be in Christ. That's not scriptural.
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Agree.
Once you adopt Calvinist view of elect... all of scripture becomes skewed to support it.. and it has psychological appeal.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Agree.
Once you adopt Calvinist view of elect... all of scripture becomes skewed to support it.. and it has psychological appeal.
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We’re not talking Calvinism. Calvinists disagree with me adamantly on what I say. Arminians do too.

When someone REPEATS what the Bible says, don’t call it Calvinism.

The Bible says God choose US to be in Christ before the foundation of the world. Don’t change the words.
 
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