Not By Works

[DorothyMae]

Are you exceling at keeping yourself saved?

I never tried to do so for one minute. Not at the beginning and not now. But this I do, I strive for the upward call if Christ Jesus that I might know him and the fellowship of his sufferings.

 

[star]

no, i don't know that they are completely wrong... but it is rather confusing to read at times. people seem to be treating Dorothy in ways that do not sound good and yet also accusing her of the same.

You will get your turn with Dottie. For that I am very sure. I will deal with Dottie as I did a long time ago on and now defunct thread. I will deal with her falseness, her word-twisting and whatever else I need to deal with. I do not coddle, pretend, nor extend graciousness to false teaching nor false teachers.

 

[DorothyMae]

No DorothyMae,

The Lord calls us, if we say Yes, He chooses us.

Many are called, few are chosen.

Stop all the judging and condemning of people that love God.

Who have I condemned by name? Have you read the awful cobdemning words they write of me and to me personally??? You are asking the one condemned by your team, who condemns NO ONE, to stop doing what your side does. A few on your team think Im not even a Christian. I think you are all christians. You got it all backwards.

 

[DorothyMae]

You will get your turn with Dottie. For that I am very sure. I will deal with Dottie as I did a long time ago on and now defunct thread. I will deal with her falseness, her word-twisting and whatever else I need to deal with. I do not coddle, pretend, nor extend graciousness to false teaching nor false teachers.

Why did you ask mailmandan about the site if you were there????

And now you are the “Star” so it will go better in any case right?

Maybe if you told us your name there we’d remember. But you gave yourself an upgrade and so the truth is hidden.

 

[DorothyMae]

You make false allegations. We are secure in Christ, we understand fully the blood of the lamb as covering for all sin eternally, our GOOD WORKS are the correct good works .. the work of Abel ... not the works of Cain.

Whenever did I write you aren’t??

Why so you need to boast to much of your good works?
Cain has a lot of pride his good works too.

What good work did I boast of?? Talk about false accusations!!

 

[DorothyMae]

For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 1 Peter 1:23

The seed is the Word of God not you and not your salvation. You and your faith are not imperishable.

 

[gb9]

The seed is the Word of God not you and not your salvation. You and your faith are not imperishable.

so, in other words, it takes more than faith to be saved, if faith is perishable.

gottoa ad some works to keep that faith fresh, right??

 

[star]

Why did you ask mailmandan about the site if you were there????

And now you are the “Star” so it will go better in any case right?

Maybe if you told us your name there we’d remember. But you gave yourself an upgrade and so the truth is hidden.

LOLOL. My name here is Star. It seems to trouble you so much. I haven't "asked" mailmandan anything. You seriously have a reading comprehension deficit.

 

[DorothyMae]

so, in other words, it takes more than faith to be saved, if faith is perishable.

gottoa ad some works to keep that faith fresh, right??

No not at all. But the seed is always the word of God, not us and not our faith. Jesus said some will fall away from the faith.

What does the Bible tell us to do so the the faith is not ship wrecked? Seek Him. Is that a “work” that is optional to you? Pray without ceasing. Is that an optional extra work for you? Forgive those who sin against you. Is that an optional extra for you?

 

[DorothyMae]

LOLOL. My name here is Star. It seems to trouble you so much. I haven't "asked" mailmandan anything. You seriously have a reading comprehension deficit.

I don’t think you understood your own post and there are some memory issues.

 

[gb9]

No not at all. But the seed is always the word of God, not us and not our faith. Jesus said some will fall away from the faith.

What does the Bible tell us to do so the the faith is not ship wrecked? Seek Him. Is that a “work” that is optional to you? Pray without ceasing. Is that an optional extra work for you? Forgive those who sin against you. Is that an optional extra for you?

believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

is that enough for you?

 

[Robertt]

Yeah, it is like that old kids arcade, WHACK A MOLE. The moles are non-OSAS, who think we can LOSE SALVATION, keep sticking their heads up, so OSAS Born Again Believers, have to keep playing.

so glad chrisitans can do anythign they want and not lose salvation , saved having to count the cost , carry the cross and put the flesh down.

Hallelujah , brothers and sisters, i want to join that church and sin as much as i want.

 

[DorothyMae]

believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

is that enough for you?

If you believe it means changes in your life. He who says he believes but lives certain practices is lying to himself and God.

 

[DorothyMae]

You aren’t listening.....that’s for sure.

Always the personal attacks with you are “nasty adjective” or you are not “good.” With!!! The fruit of OSAS

 

[DorothyMae]

so glad chrisitans can do anythign they want and not lose salvation , saved having to count the cost , carry the cross and put the flesh down.

Hallelujah , brothers and sisters, i want to join that church and sin as much as i want.

That’s the license it gives to those who desire it. One need not be loving or forgiving if others don’t accept your freedom either. They don’t accept your theology so don’t deserve anything but the rack. Oops the Inquisition again. Whew!! We’re anonymous!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What is the basis of our faith? Our works?

No. John said it is the knowledge we have eternal life

Why do people think it is our good deeds which give us faith? Is this not faith in self?

 

[EleventhHour]

so glad chrisitans can do anythign they want and not lose salvation , saved having to count the cost , carry the cross and put the flesh down.

Hallelujah , brothers and sisters, i want to join that church and sin as much as i want.

No one here preaches what you have written.

Are you another false accuser?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so glad chrisitans can do anythign they want and not lose salvation , saved having to count the cost , carry the cross and put the flesh down.

Hallelujah , brothers and sisters, i want to join that church and sin as much as i want.

So glad you think you are so perfect and able to earn your own way to heaven where the glory is removed from Christ and put on your shoulders

 

[EleventhHour]

No not at all. But the seed is always the word of God, not us and not our faith. Jesus said some will fall away from the faith.

What does the Bible tell us to do so the the faith is not ship wrecked? Seek Him. Is that a “work” that is optional to you? Pray without ceasing. Is that an optional extra work for you? Forgive those who sin against you. Is that an optional extra for you?

So you are saved by your works?

You really cannot make up your mind it seems?

God does not take away the imperishable seed, His gifts are irrevocable, He justifies the believer... He optionally sanctifies the believer and has promised to raise us in glory


Jesus only gives the gift of secure eternal life ... what have you trusted Him for if not secure eternal life?

He offers nothing less.

 

[EleventhHour]

That’s the license it gives to those who desire it. One need not be loving or forgiving if others don’t accept your freedom either. They don’t accept your theology so don’t deserve anything but the rack. Oops the Inquisition again. Whew!! We’re anonymous!

There is only one Gospel... it is the gift of eternal life, never to be forsaken, revoked, taken back or defeated.

.......by grace through faith apart from works anything less makes God incompetent